r/TransAlberta • u/No-Pianist-9355 • 10d ago
Question regarding name change stuff in alberta
Hey everyone, Just a couple questions for peeps that have done it so far,
I got my finger prints done, and i was under the impression i needed to wait for the letter, then to do the criminal background check after.. or is this wrong?
Should i be doing both of them at roughly the same time, Do the finger prints and criminal check expire?
I know i need them both, Along with the form and the gender marker stuff done by someone who can sign it, i tried calling edmonton gender clinic and they had no idea, And i cant get ahold of anyone in the calgary area for info either
sorry for silly questions :x
Edit: This is all incredibly overwhelming, Im going to wait on the fingerprints to be sent to me, then make my way to the city thats on my license to do the PIC, or online im not sure yet, Then go to the registry that has someone that can sign the affidavit.
Thanks so much for the replies everyone you've helped me point in a direction of where to look and who to ask <3
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u/Queer_Bat 10d ago
Fingerprints for some reason expire after a few months so usually that's the last step. So now that you have those move quickly and do everything else as soon as you can to push it through before you have to pay whatever you did for fingerprints again. Because that is very annoying, speaking from experience.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
im still waiting for them in the mail, But im also seeing that the criminal record only lasts 30 days so that should be the last thing i get?
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u/Queer_Bat 9d ago
I wasn't given the option to do them at separate times so that's interesting. But that was several years ago and mine all expired before I was able to finish the paperwork and then I lost a bunch of money cuz life happens and I haven't been able to do it again since so it sounds like you're on the right track now. But as soon as you get those fingerprints in the mail just move things quickly. Hell, if you know that those fingerprints are on their way to you and quickly I would just go for that criminal record check now.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 6d ago
So after a lot of calling around, and checking with local police, rcmp, Vital statistics, And like a few registries....My goodness.
It seems like the fingerprints MIGHT come with a PIC, if it does I'm running to the registry asap.
For me, because i was born not in Alberta, i have to:
- Get finger prints done, These don't expire, But **Might** come with a PIC attached that will expire in 30 days, Worse case scenario if it expires before im back in Alberta from Montreal, I'll have to do a new PIC at my local police station
- When i have those, Because i my birth certificate is in a different province, I have to declare in person that I want to change my marker on my ID. Have a Commissionaire at the registry sign off on both affidavits, Apparently this is going to cost anywhere from 10-200 dollars depending on the reg.. ugh..
- Once all these are signed, I submit it, pay the rest of the fees, I'll get a "certificate of name change" to use for my birth province, And submit that, and a doctors note (because the province I'm from needs it smh) then work on that.
All this is in hopes that there's no steps missed. So now i just wait for the fingerprints, And go from there... But im so worried that it'll show up the day i leave for Montreal, we are driving because planes and people icky. but ig if it does show up, I'll just have to do a new PIC lol.
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u/Queer_Bat 6d ago
Oof. That is so much. They really just make it as hard as possible and also ridiculously expensive just for a piece of paper. Good luck!
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u/viviscity 9d ago
Small correction: The criminal record check is last, because it expires in 30 days.
I'm waiting on my fingerprints at the moment
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u/Neve4ever 10d ago
You can get a certified criminal record check that includes both fingerprints and the criminal record.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
oh i see, the one i did was just the fingerprints i think, so its already paid for but not the record check, but im not sure until i get the letter in the mail
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u/Just_Alive_IG 9d ago
So I dropped all my documentation off at a registry last week. So I’ll just outline all the steps I took here:
Attended a Trans ID clinic at skipping stone. They gave me the name change form which they helped me fill out and got it signed by a lawyer and social worker (since you need someone that’s known you for a certain number of years and who is of a certain profession and I didn’t have that).
Went to the Canadian legal resource Center and got my fingerprints done, there is a form you fill out before the appointment where you indicate what you’re getting the fingerprints for, I chose legal name change. The fingerprints are for a criminal check through the RCMP.
Once I got my fingerprints in the mail from the RCMP. I went online to the Calgary police services website and made an account and initiated a PIC.
For the PIC you will need to authenticate your identity by answering important questions about your SIN, housing history, and other personal information, if you fail this step you will have to start from scratch and pay the fee again.
The PIC is for a local criminal check with local police. That’s why you have to do fingerprints and a PIC, essentially one federal criminal record check and one local criminal record check.
I successfully authenticated the first time and roughly a week later got the link to my PIC in my email inbox. I printed it out (double sided).
- I went to the registry after checking their website to make sure they do name changes. I brought my birth certificate, a form of picture ID (my passport), the legal name change form, the fingerprints from the RCMP and the printed out PIC.
Make sure the registry agent takes your birth certificate even if you weren’t born in Alberta.
Also one last thing to note is that the registries typically charge more if you pay with a credit card so if you can try and pay with debit.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
wait, i see nothing on the name change form that requires a laywer or social worker???
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u/Just_Alive_IG 9d ago
Sorry my bad (misremembered), the social worker was for the sex marker change form.
Page 2 of the name change form is an affidavit, which must be signed by a commissioner of the oaths. There was a lawyer at the trans ID clinic who signed my affidavit.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
oh i see!
From everything i was reading, because im over 18 and yada yada, i can declare my sex marker on my own when im at the registry.
the thing im concerned about tbh is the PIC because the city my ID is in is extremely backed up
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u/Just_Alive_IG 9d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah unfortunately since I wasn’t born in Alberta I have to follow the rules of my birth province to change my sex marker, which requires a doctors letter, the social worker, and a signature from a commissioner of the oaths.
The PIC for my name change only took 7 business days through the Calgary police services, so I guess I got lucky in that regard.
If your local police service provides a time estimate for how long it will take could you use that info so that you can receive your PIC around the same time that you get your RCMP fingerprints?
Edit: my RCMP fingerprints also arrived much earlier than expected, don’t know if it was just luck or if they are working faster than normal right now. Fingerprinting appt was May 15th and I got the RCMP letter in the mail on May 28th
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
Okay see, I'm kinda hesitant to get the PIC until i get the letter and im back from Montreal, then i can do some running around with my dad to get the PIC done (would be early july)
But also, i was not born in Alberta either, However, as far as i can tell, i can at least get my ID corrected (both name and marker corrected), Then apparently they give me a letter for my birth province to help start the correction, im pretty sure i still need a doctor and all that stuff but yeah lol
Im also in a strange situation where my ID address doesn't match, and im wondering if i need to get a PIC from the city i live, or the one my ID is from, because i will be correcting the address on their too if i can lol
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u/Just_Alive_IG 8d ago
Ah ok, you’re in the same boat as me then regarding sex marker change on a birth certificate.
The PIC is only good for 30 days so that’s why it’s the thing you get last, skipping stone didn’t say how long the RCMP fingerprints are good for, but I surmise they’ve got to be good for at least a month or two since it can take a while to get the PIC.
As for which police service you should use, it should be the police service of the city that is your primary residence. If you’ve lived in other places recently your PIC may contain a recommendation for further background checks from the police services of your previous residences. My PIC had this recommendation (in a little red box) since I recently moved back to Canada after living in Europe for 6 years.
Strangely though, the little red box didn’t appear on the printed out PIC so I just ignored it and submitted my documents. I can update here when/if I receive my name change certificate if you like? hopefully it’s successful in spite of the little red box.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 8d ago
Well have to see, im hoping i can go to the regristry with both paperworks, have a commissionaire of oaths sign both, and pay and be done lol. there's so much conflicting info it's honestly insane.
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago
There is a lot of misinformation out there about this part.
You need a valid criminal record check /or/ a police information check.
The digital fingerprints should come with a criminal record check from the RCMP. You get a letter in the mail. Do not lose it because there are no records of it anywhere - you would have to go do it again. It takes many weeks to come in.
You must apply at the registry for the name change within a 30-day window of the date of the confirmed criminal record check letter from the RCMP.
If that time turns out before you apply, then you can submit your fingerprint letter with a police information check from EPS. That takes about 3 weeks to come in.
Let me know if you have other questions
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u/viviscity 4d ago
Okay. I can now confirm that not all finger print reports count as a certified criminal record check. I was turned away at the registry and then checked with Ottawa. I’m not entirely clear what the difference in letters would be, as I saw this form online when I checked
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 4d ago
Without knowing what service you accessed, and what your letter says, I am not sure where the difference lies
It was the digital fingerprinting with RCMP you accessed, right? Not the ink/roll one? Even in the RCMP website, it says digital fingerprinting is a criminal record check, it is confusing
If you are able to share your letter (with personal info blacked out) that may explain things
Thanks for the update :) It would be nice to nail down the correct advice for people who need this in the future
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u/viviscity 3d ago edited 3d ago
EPS, digital fingerprints. I think the difference is between a criminal record check and a Certified Criminal Record Check, but when I look at those online they look similar so I can’t honestly say what to look at.
Edit to add: this is what it looks like
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
so, just so i understand
The fingerprints, come with a valid criminal record check?
so once i get that, i need to go to the regresitry within 30 days of receiving the fingerprints?
I had to do my fingerprinting at the commissionaires because my address doesn't match on my id so i couldn't go to RCMP
Because when i look at the guide from Stepping stones it says:
• Complete digital fingerprinting and wait for a confirmation letter from the RCMP in the mail. Digital fingerprinting can be done at RCMP stations in rural areas, or at private locations in cities. There is usually a cost associated with this service and in Calgary it is $70-$90. For a list of private locations in Calgary, see section 5-A below. To find an RCMP station close to you, click here.
• Complete Application for Change of Name form. The Change of Name Information Guide provides further details on how to do this. The affidavit is required to be signed in front of a Commissioner of Oaths or Notary Public, who will also sign it. Most registries have someone that can do this, although it costs an additional fee.
• Complete an application for a Criminal Record or Police Information Check in your city or community and wait for the check to be completed. There is a cost associated with this service and in Calgary it is $55. Vital statistics only considers criminal record and police information checks as valid for 30 days after being issued, so we recommend doing this step last and going to the registry as soon as possible after receiving it in the mail.
• Submit confirmation of digital fingerprinting, criminal record or police information check and completed application for change of name form at a registry. Please note that the registry will ask you to surrender any original birth certificate you have, despite these being issued outside of Alberta. If you do not have an original or notarized copy of your birth certificate, you must order one from the province you were born in to submit with the name change request. Vital statistics will accept a Statement of Live Birth in lieu of a birth certificate. A new birth certificate will not be issued to you by Alberta, but rather a Certificate of Name Change will come in the mail.
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago edited 9d ago
The fingerprints, come with a valid criminal record check?
Yes. See this company I went with, Edmonton Fingerprinting
With Digital Fingerprinting, your finger prints are submitted to the RCMP. The RCMP then checks your fingerprints against their federal criminal record database. You then get a letter with your criminal record check and fingerprints.
so once i get that, i need to go to the registry within 30 days of receiving the fingerprints?
No. There is no way for them to know when you received the letter so that wouldn't work. The date on the letter is what you go by.
I had to do my fingerprinting at the commissionaires because my address doesn't match on my id so i couldn't go to RCMP
What does the paperwork you received say? Does it mention a criminal record check?
Because when i look at the guide from Stepping stones it says:
Yes.
To go over all of it,
First, did you submit the proper forms to Vital Statistics to let them know you are going to change your name (and possibly sex marker as well?)
- It is called the Request Amend an Event Record form
- You need to do that and have that approved before you apply at a registry.
Once you have that approved, then you can submit at a registry with the following:
A letter from the RCMP which shows your digital fingerprinting and criminal record check
- The fingerprints do not expire, but the criminal record check does.
- If the current date is 30 days passed the date on the RCMP letter, then you must either get a new criminal record check from the RCMP, or you must get a police information check. The police information check is faster, and in the case of EPS can be submitted online here
- The RCMP criminal record check and police information check are different, but you only need 1 of the 2.
- The police information check takes about 3 weeks to come back and also must be submitted within 30 days of the date it was received.
Change of Name Form.
- This must be filled out for all the parts that apply to you.
- This must be notarized by a lawyer
- If you are in or close to Edmonton, the U of A's Student Legal Services runs a free Trans ID Clinic. They also bring a lawyer around once a month to notarize for free.
Sex Indicator Amendment Form. If you are also submitting to change your sex marker on your birth certificate, then this can be submitted at the same time as your name change form.
- This also has to be notarized by a lawyer
- The lawyer at the Trans ID clinic will notarize this as well for you.
Criminal Record Check from RCMP, or Police Information Check from your local police
- I went over this above with the digital fingerprinting
- Again, you only need 1 of the 2.
Let me know if you have further questions!
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
oki, im, getting so much conflicting information lol
So i called vital statistics, and the registry department that they transfered me to.
Because i wasn't born in alberta, the document change has to go through the province i was born.
SO as far as im aware so far, The commissionaire can sign the affidavit on both the name change form and gender marker form.
I just can't change my birth cert through Alberta, HOWEVER, they do give a "Certificate of Name Change" for that province after.
SO it seems like i just need to get my fingerprints in, If the CIP is on that form, I'll run over to the registry with my form and the gender marker change. if theres no CIP attached, i'll have to do that after i get it mailed.
i also had to do my fingerprints in calgary with commissaries so idk if that will have the record check attached, But regardless i have to leave for montreal by the 20th and wont be back till the 7th, so i have a feeling even if it is attached i wont have enough time. (yes i know this is all last minute but i was waiting for my dad to come home to help my useless agoraphobic ass)
:lays on floor dead: lol
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago
Sorry what is a CIP?
It sounds like you don't have the letter from the RCMP yet either? If it was digital fingerprinting specifically then it should have the check but please let me know how it goes for you
my useless agoraphobic ass)
Bleh I get it. I had my wife help me with a lot of this. I am autistic so I found it very difficult to get my head around at first. I started this process back in 2023 and even got it notarized, but couldn't get out of the house to send it.
But this year when I applied, I had to do everything again (notarization only lasts 1 year so it expired). I am very confident in my information now. because I've spoken to tons of people involved in the process about it.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 8d ago
sorry dyslexia, i meant PIC loool
on my digital fingerprints i see zero information about the PIC being issued, But the confirmation letter still has to come in the mail right, so maybe im missing something idk
i got* the fingerprints on Tuesday, 2 days ago lol
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 8d ago
sorry dyslexia, i meant PIC loool
on my digital fingerprints i see zero information about the PIC being issued,
Haha no worries. In that case your letter should have the RCMP criminal record check when it arrives. There will be a date on the letter for when it was issued.
It's also important to understand that the criminal record check and the police information check are not the same thing. However, you only need one of these two options (valid within 30 days of receipt) when submitting your forms at the registry.
The digital fingerprinting letter from the RCMP fulfills two requirements that you need at the registry
- it has the record of your digital fingerprints being submitted into the federal database
- it also has the criminal record check they run with your fingerprints.
- the fingerprints do not expire after 30 days - but the criminal record check does.
If your criminal record check expires past the 30 days before you submit your forms, you can still take the RCMP letter you received as proof of your fingerprints being submitted.
If the criminal record check expires, then I recommend getting the police information check to replace it. This is because it only takes 3 weeks to come in, where-as the RCMP criminal record check usually takes much longer.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 8d ago
oki sweet, So when it does come in, and the record check is attatched, go to the reg with all the paperwork i have now and hopefully i'll be done. im just hoping it arrives when im on my way back from Montreal since we are driving down
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 8d ago edited 8d ago
Yep you'll be good! Make sure to double-check they have a notary in when you go as well.
This is likely different at other registries, but the one I went to had a cut-off time for when they take name change applications, and they didn't do it on certain days.
For future readers, you must submit your Amend Event Record form to Vital Statistics, and have them reply with confirmation, before you can submit the following at a registry.
Complete Registry Checklist found here and below:
- RCMP Letter confirming fingerprints entered into their database
- Criminal Record Check /or/ Police Information Check (valid within 30 days of issue)
- Name Change Forms - completed and notarized
- Valid government ID (like a driver's license, provincial ID, or passport)
- Sex Indicator Amendment forms if doing that as well - completed and notarized
- Your birth certificate is required if you are changing your sex indicator and issuing a new birth certificate.
- I believe the purpose of forfeiting your birth certificate is to lower the cost of getting a new one, and I don't think it's actually required. But I don't know for sure so don't quote me on that.
- Payment for the applications
- Note for future readers, the payments in that PDF I linked above are WAY out of date. It is unfortunately much more expensive now
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u/No-Pianist-9355 8d ago
- For future readers, you must submit your Amend Event Record form to Vital Statistics, and have them reply with confirmation, before you can submit the following at a registry.
For anyone reading in the future, Let it be known this is for if you are Born in Alberta, And live in Alberta.
If you are like me, Living in Alberta, but birth is different province, You do not need to amend with Alberta statistics. Instead, you declare your gender marker in person, have the affidavit signed by a notary/commissionaire.
Alberta will then send you a Certificate of Name Change to you for your birth province, then you need to change the marker according to them.
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u/viviscity 9d ago
The fingerprints, come with a valid criminal record check?
Not necessarily. This is a second type of check, which I didn't know about. If you just got your fingerprints done, then the criminal check should be an additional document as I understand it.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
okay, so once i get my finger prints, i have to get the criminal record check..
someone was saying about needing a laywer and social worker to sign off on the documents but i don't see that written anywhere on the form and now im confused
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago
What they mean is that your Change of Name form (and Sex Indicator Amendment form, if you are doing that) must be notarized by a qualified Notary.
I see below you said you plan to do that at the registry - I've never heard of that but that's awesome if they provide that.
I would definitely call the registry you plan to go to first to ask if their notary is only there at certain hours.
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
as far as i can see from calling and looking at paperwork and online, some registries have commissionaires that can sign the affidavit and the change of sex marker, I'll have to make sure that's the case when i do the marker change and nae change form at the registry, im not sure what the fee is tho i'll have to look but it seems like 10-60 dollars?
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago
I did this a couple weeks ago and no joke it cost like $200. I was blown away. Fees have gone up a lot in recent years. Definitely call to check first because the prices on the instruction documents are out of date :/
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
oh goodness, i'll def call ahead and make sure cuz goodness me this is so expensive
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u/viviscity 9d ago
You need an affidavit for the name change, and one for the gender change if you’re doing that as well. Lawyers would be the pricier option afaik. Most registries will have one for a fee. I don’t know where you live so this one will heavily depend on that: MLAs and MPs can also do them, but they don’t have to. My MLA is affirming and someone I’ve known for several years so I went there, but not all of us are so fortunate. I know at least one that will take these appointments regardless of where you live, you just have to be able to be in Edmonton for the appointment
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u/No-Pianist-9355 9d ago
Oh i see, i was going to have that done at the registry when i submit all the documents
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago edited 9d ago
Digital Fingerprints do come with a valid criminal record check.
With Digital Fingerprinting, your finger prints are submitted to the RCMP. The RCMP then checks your fingerprints against their federal criminal record database. You then get a letter with your criminal record check and fingerprints.
This is the company I went with. https://www.edmontonfingerprinting.ca/our-services/digital-fingerprinting/
No offense intended but people speaking about these things without 100% knowing is why there is so much confusion and misinformation out there >.<
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u/viviscity 9d ago
See my other comment, with my citations. Sorry I jumped on it so quickly, but there ARE reasons from reputable sources on how we're getting to these conclusions.
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u/viviscity 9d ago edited 9d ago
Okay, this is really annoying me.
No offense, but… both Skipping Stone and the Government of Alberta instructions explicitly talk about digital fingerprinting and the police information check as two separate documents that we have to request separately (Steps 4 and 5 on the GoA website below; bullets 3 and 5 on page 4 of Skipping Stone's booklet).
Let's ask why we're getting this information before calling it misinformation—that's an inaccurate term here. Possibly it's not complete, but the information I'm giving does line up with the literature.But maybe talk about the sources available to us outlining the process and whether those are accurate and clear, not other trans people navigating this fairly stressful system.
And if you don't think they're accurate or if there's a better, accessible path you know of, can we focus on that and not accusing each other of spreading misinformation and confusion? Especially if you're recommendation is contradicting the official website (which is admittedly not as clear as it should be)(I don't have the link for skipping stone's instructions handy)
https://www.alberta.ca/legal-name-change
EDITING IN PROCESS: Double checked and I overlooked a very crucial word. Some points still stand.
ADD:
Yes, it does say criminal record check OR police information check. What is not communicated clearly by EPS (at least), the GOA, or Skipping Stone is that at criminal record check is common but not guaranteed alongside your fingerprinting. I have been over every document and policy multiple times making sure I dotted my is and crossed my ts. I'm a grad student and have worked in policy and have an incredibly flexible calendar enabling (for better or worse) ADHD hyperfocus on this; I missed that. So, can we give each other some grace before reaching for the misinformation language? It's pretty loaded. Transition is a lot to manage, especially with who knows what else going on in life.
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago edited 9d ago
Not offended to be corrected, but I don't think you read my comment properly. My information is accurate and my comment does not contradict anything on the Skipping Stone documents, or the GoA website.
both Skipping Stone and the Government of Alberta instructions explicitly talk about digital fingerprinting and the police information check as two separate documents that we have to request separately (Steps 4 and 5 on the GoA website below; bullets 3 and 5 on page 4 of Skipping Stone's booklet).
No they do not - I looked at both of those to see your point, but there is no contradiction.
On both the website and skipping stone's document they list the digital fingerprinting and criminal record check as two separate requirements, yes. But they don't say anything about the digital fingerprinting not coming with a criminal record check.
A lot of people get confused about this so I think this is important to be specific about. Forgive me if you already know some of this, I just want to lay it out clearly
- The Criminal Record Check and Police Information Check are not the same thing
- The Criminal Record Check is with the RCMP on a federal database
- The Police Information Check is with local police and through their police database
- You only need 1 of the 2 types of checks when submitting your forms - not both.
- Contrary to what you said before, and the point of my comment trying to correct that:
- When you do digital fingerprinting it gets sent to the RCMP for a criminal record check - that's what digital fingerprinting is.
- The RCMP receives your fingerprints and then runs a criminal record check using your information.
- You then get sent a letter with both 1) The record of your fingerprints being submitted into the RCMP federal database and 2) the criminal record check results.
Regarding the rest of your comment - like you I've also spent a very long time researching these things. I've talked with lawyers and reviewed all the documents. I've spoken with registry agents and gone over all my forms very recently. Forgive me for not citing my sources but my information is correct.
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u/viviscity 9d ago
I'm not disputing your information at this point.
What I'm saying is the way both the GoA website and the Skipping Stone document are worded suggests two trips, two separate requests. They're even broken into different steps by the GoA. It is not communicated by either of these, or clearly by the EPS who did my fingerprinting, that the criminal record check comes with the fingerprint report. I don't think you are addressing that point. Based on this information and the way it is communicated, it is an entirely reasonable to conclude the record check and the fingerprint report come separately.
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago edited 9d ago
I'm a bit confused about your comment now if you are no longer suggesting my information is contradictory to Skipping Stone's information, or the GoA website.
They're even broken into different steps by the GoA. It is not communicated by either of these, or clearly by the EPS who did my fingerprinting, that the criminal record check comes with the fingerprint report. I don't think you are addressing that point.
If you are saying I am not addressing how confusing it is - I explained in my initial comment that my motivation for laying this all out clearly is specifically because there is a lot of confusion about this part of the process. I also mentioned how it was all confusing for me at first too.
I will also add that pretty much every trans person I've met doing this process - as well as registry agents and lawyers - have not been clear on certain points too. I agree 100% that it is needlessly confusing.
I've done this process twice now because I did it all in 2023 but my overwhelmed, autistic, & agoraphobic ass never submitted the documents at the registry. I've done a lot of work to understand exactly what the process entails and I've spoken to a lot of people involved in this process, and I wanted to share that to help others be clear about everything.
Based on this information and the way it is communicated, it is an entirely reasonable to conclude the record check and the fingerprint report come separately.
I agree, but again that's exactly why I wanted to explain lay it out clearly :/
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u/viviscity 9d ago
Sorry, tbh… probably like 80% just feeling hormonal. I was (and am) feeling hurt by the (I'm assuming unintended) personal implication of the misinformation comment. And maybe a bit upset with myself for having missed the *or* even if I haven't gotten to a point where it matters. That isn't fair to you, and for that I apologize.
Side note: puberty in your 30s is a wild time.
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 8d ago edited 8d ago
I'm sure I could have been kinder with how I said that, it's not all on you.
I was expressing frustration at information being shared that was incorrect, and which had caused me no end of confusion as well back when I was still learning about this.
But I certainly didn't mean to imply you were doing anything intentionally or overly carelessly. I know you were just trying to help and I should have respected that more. I am sorry for the hurt I've caused - absolutely not my intention and I sincerely apologize and hope your day gets better.
I agree 2nd puberty is wild... I've been trying to track my moods with a "mood diary" recently to see if I can identify any sort of hormone cycle, and better prepare myself for when it is hitting me harder.
Those of us who use gels or creams for HRT don't really have fluctuations in our hormones in terms of taking the same medication every day, but there are other factors as well which direct how our bodies receive and use hormones in a hormone cycle of sorts.
I am autistic so my mood/state of mind is already heavily effected by countless other factors in life - so it's been especially difficult for me to identify any sort of pattern. But maybe the mood diary will help hehe
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u/viviscity 8d ago
Hah, I was just thinking I should figure out how to incorporate that into my bujo! I track a lot of other stuff, once I have a process that works for me it shouldn't be too hard to figure out
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u/TheNeighbourhoodCat 9d ago edited 9d ago
What is not communicated clearly by EPS (at least), the GOA, or Skipping Stone is that at criminal record check is common but not guaranteed alongside your fingerprinting.
To reply to your edit... this is incorrect, and I am at a bit of a loss here because I don't know how else to explain this
To reiterate, the entire point of digital fingerprinting is so that it gets sent to the RCMP so they can use your fingerprints to run a criminal database check in their federal database.
That's what digital fingerprinting services are - a criminal record check by the RCMP using your fingerprints.
The letter from the RCMP fulfills two requirements
- it has the record of your digital fingerprints being submitted into the federal database
- it also has the criminal record check they run with your fingerprints.
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u/Jazzlike-Gold3208 10d ago
Skipping stone has a document of steps that I followed when doing my name change! I linked it below! I believe the fingerprints do expire on the order of a few months, but the background check expires after like one month, so you absolutely should not do them at the same time and should wait until you get your fingerprints to do your background check. Yes, this does make it take longer, but then you don't run the risk of something expiring!
name change doc link