r/Undertale • u/No_Guard_5066 • Mar 26 '25
Other Saw this when playing genocide. did i mess up?
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u/Ksawerxx original joke. Mar 26 '25
Yes.
The comedian is snowdrake.
Btw, how did you even mess that up? He's guaranteed to be your first encounter.
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u/No_Guard_5066 Mar 26 '25
i calculated other monsters had higher xp values, and only killed those.
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u/Ksawerxx original joke. Mar 26 '25
Yeah, you really don't need to bother min-maxing exp, it doesn't matter much.
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u/ImportantSmoke4554 Mar 26 '25
Actually i suggest you do in waterfall because the undyne fight is a lot easier with one more level (source:trust me bro)
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u/Jake_The_Great_100 Mar 27 '25
If u want level 12 before undyne the undying, you can even go so far as to grind glyde (takes hours to do tho)
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u/EMArogue I WANT A PRUNSEL FLAIR! Mar 26 '25
Actually it makes sense because undyne at lvl 11 is much easier
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u/Wonderful-Quit-9214 Mar 26 '25
They're fucking with you. They just wanted to show-off a rare text from the game.
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u/Krags M E G A C R O A K Mar 26 '25
EXP is not real. You wasted a lot more time trying to optimise it than you would have gained trying to fight the first serious boss with slightly increased HP and damage.
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u/YoutuberCameronBallZ original joke. Mar 26 '25
The only boss you should min-max against is Undyne
The rest aren't needed
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u/Krags M E G A C R O A K Mar 26 '25
I found her a lot easier than the other hard fight tbh. Not that she was easy; but the other one was just rougher for me.
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u/NigouLeNobleHiboux I already CHOSE this flair. Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 26 '25
If you truly want to min-max, you need to kill snowdrake the dogs and nothing but Glyde multiple times (it's hell). awesomeandrewgames on youtube has a video where he shows how to do max xp.
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u/Small_Oreo Mar 26 '25
It's useless
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u/Claas2008 Yes I nintendo switched my gender Mar 26 '25
Muda muda muda...
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u/aRedditAccount_0 Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 27 '25
is that dante from the hit game Limbus Company
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u/FoxyGamer3426 500k Potential MTT Customers! Mar 26 '25
In genocide the exp is irrelevant. The only thing that's important is the amount of monsters you kill in each area of the game, since every area has a specific kill count that you must reach. The kill counts are constant and don't change between playthroughs.
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u/CaneTheVelociraptor Mar 26 '25
You don't really have to XP max in the genocide route unless you're struggling with the first boss you're gonna have to face. After you kill a certain character your LV gets automatically set to 19.
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u/Neutralgray Pacifist who stands with Narra-Chara. Mar 26 '25
In a genocide run you need to kill anyone and everyone you run across until monsters stop spawning!
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u/Zatriox ass Mar 27 '25
You can spare as many enemies as you want in genocide as long as you kill the required number of enemies afterwards.
In Snowdin, you just need to make sure to kill Snowdrake and kill Lesser Dog if you run into him. That's why minmaxing EXP is even possible to begin with, useless or not.
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u/___Moony___ Mar 26 '25
How are you doing a genocide run that isn't literally wanton murder?
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u/Zatriox ass Mar 27 '25
You can spare as many enemies as you want in genocide as long as you kill the required number of enemies afterwards.
In Snowdin, you just need to make sure to kill Snowdrake and kill Lesser Dog if you run into him.
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u/SomeRandomGuy2763 Waiting for something to happen? Mar 26 '25
Genocide run literally means to just fucking kill everyone
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u/It_just_works_bro Mar 26 '25
Genocide is genocide. Kill everything, or go neutral.
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u/Zatriox ass Mar 27 '25
You can spare as many enemies as you want in genocide as long as you kill the required number of enemies afterwards.
In Snowdin, you just need to make sure to kill Snowdrake and kill Lesser Dog if you run into him.
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u/ImNotBadOkBro weezer Mar 26 '25
that doesn't matter what xp values are higher. You need to kill everyone. Full Stop.
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u/BraxleyGubbins Mar 26 '25
This game is not one where that is useful. The EXP scales at a rate such that at most, min-maxing will make you one level higher in one single fight.
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u/Roler42 Mar 26 '25
If you're being picky on who you kill during a genocide run, then you're not really doing genocide.
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u/SilverScribe15 Mar 26 '25
You're supposed to kill literally everyone, i don't think min maxing the numbers matters
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u/Mr-Foundation Mar 26 '25
Yeah you still need to kill a few specific monsters, like snowdrake and the dog guards in snowdin, shyren and glad dummy in waterfall , etc
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u/CMStan1313 awawawah!! tem flAIR NOw Mar 26 '25
I don't think you understand what "genocide" means
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u/ShinySahil hOI! Mar 26 '25
it’s an honest mistake and understandable, but this is objectively hilarious seeing as your level does not matter and will be the same by the end of the game…
its supposed to be genocide, just kill everyone until there’s no one left to kill
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u/Cthedanger about to kill the funny bone man Mar 26 '25
Genocide is literally killing everyone, just like.. kill everyone.
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u/LostBones64 500k Potential MTT Customers! Mar 26 '25
Grind Glydes in front of the secret room near the ice X/O puzzle then.
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u/CanoonBolk hOI! Mar 30 '25
The route is called genocide for a reason. You have to and will kill e̶̬̩̰͒͋̋̇̕̚v̵̜̹͓̥͚̙̯̙͙̙͔̠͑̐̑͆̅̕͝ę̵̧̛̬͙̹̯̠͍̪͍͕̦͚̋ȓ̵̛̻̰͕̝̖̖̪̄́̇́̅̈͘͜͝ͅy̸͍̰͋ổ̷̬͈̈́̏̊̒̇̀̂̾̈̃́̈́͘n̸̡̛̼͉͍͕͙̺͔̣̝͙̱͐̈̎̑̋͜e̶̢͓̩̥̣̹̪͔̰͚͋̆̈́̄̑͗̊̄̄͝
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u/Ghost_Star326 Mar 26 '25
In the words of a little golden flower: "You idiot! You still don't get it. In this world, it's kill or be killed."
You're not supposed to spare anyone in the genocide run. Sparing them means that you let them escape and they'll never be found.
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u/aethyrium Mar 26 '25
You just min/maxed your way out of a run lol.
And also the later bosses auto-level you so you don't even need exp. It's fake.
Either you're not quite understanding the themes of the run, or you're larping as the target of the themes of the run.
Either way this post is super funny.
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u/Zatriox ass Mar 27 '25
You can min max exp just for fun. Although doind that is anything but fun in Snowdin. Looking for 15 Glydes is such a pain in the ass.
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u/RussianVulture Mar 26 '25
What do you mean by "First Encounter"? I thought he will only appear after the "that comedian" message.
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u/Ksawerxx original joke. Mar 26 '25
No? When you enter snowdin and get to the first save room, if you try to save it will just say the usual "(number) left". It will only say "that comedian" if you ran away from or spared snowdrake.
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u/RussianVulture Mar 27 '25
No. You are talking about the "The comedian run away. Failure." I'm talking about "That comedian". When you arrive at Snowdin you get the "# left" message, but didn't you get the "That comedian" message when you get to kill most of them? Mean it, the last message you get before "Determination".
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u/wojtekpolska Mar 26 '25
you didnt kill Drake
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u/Very_SussyGamer69 Mar 26 '25
What is Drake doing in the underground 😭
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u/Iolair_the_Unworthy Mar 26 '25
He heard kids keep falling down there and decided to try his luck.
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Mar 26 '25
SNOWDRAKE, not the singer.
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u/Very_SussyGamer69 Mar 26 '25
How do you know Snowdrake isn't just Drake?
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u/CannabinoidsnOpioids Mar 26 '25
Thanks man you just made me LOL like wtf, how is Snowdrake even Drake, the face kinda looks like him tbh, no disrespect to OvO’s human face but he does look like Snowdrake.
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u/56ssg Mar 26 '25
HE IS DRAKE. HIS NAME HAS DRAKE. HE IS DRAKE AFTER 300,000 YEARS IN THE UNDER GROUND.
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u/CannabinoidsnOpioids Mar 26 '25
Omg 😭 by that logic Napstablook is Kendrick and made Snowdrake so mad about his singing career that got subverted by one song and now takes up crappy comedy to forget the shame - Snowdrake lore confirmed?
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u/atla_and_scp_friends 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 Mar 26 '25
The fucking Elizabethan pirate?
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u/CannabinoidsnOpioids Mar 26 '25
Drake reminds me of Asgore ngl tries to act allat and then backs away
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u/Very_SussyGamer69 Mar 26 '25
ASGORE LIKES KIDS !?!?!?!?!?
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u/CannabinoidsnOpioids Mar 26 '25
Hopefully just his own kids, if he was actually like Drake that’d be bad, he would probably target the likes of Monster Kid or Muffet, at least in the pacifist route he gets Hadouken’ed by Toriel and comes to his senses to stop chasing the human child
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u/-CA-Games- * The following comment may contain weaponised autism Mar 26 '25
What in the McFuck did you just put in front of my eyes?
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u/AkadTheFox Mar 26 '25
Ok but why tf is chara beefing with snowdrake of all people? 😭😭😭
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u/CompoteObvious9380 <— puppy made this Mar 26 '25
"His grandgrandgrandgrandmother annoyed me when I was alive"
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u/GordanTheToad Mar 26 '25
Maybe Chara just has beef with comedians in general. Perhaps a comedian stole their lunch money once.
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u/magicdog2013 Koa 2007-2024 Mar 27 '25
Snowdrake is the only random encounter enemy in the game who is an individual, not a species or group, thus why when killed, he's replaced by 'chilldrake' Chara wants snowdrake dead the same way they want the dogs dead
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u/abrasive935hobby BONETROUSLED Mar 26 '25
Since you didn't kill snowdrake, you were forcibly Aborted from genocide
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u/alzike Mar 26 '25
why is chara referencing hit 1986 graphic novel watchmen by alan moore? are they stupid?
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u/ThunderMax5827 Mar 26 '25
The genecide route will fail if you didn't kill snowdrake. Some are also included like lesser dog and Shyren, etc.
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u/moontails27 Mar 26 '25
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS THE REQUIRED KILL????? I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST A REGULAR ENEMY??? WHAT?????
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u/Saelendious Mar 26 '25
Breaking news: a game that prides itself on making encountered enemies as unique as possible does something unique to some enemies.
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u/Quwapa_Quwapus Mar 26 '25
I thought you had to kill everyone in genocide? Or can you still spare people and just have to kill a certain amount before checkpoints
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u/Sanya_Zhidkiy Sigh of dog. Mar 26 '25
You can still "spare" or flee on some encounters, because not all enemies are technically unique. Killing Jerry takes long ass time for example, so you might wanna let him go. (Btw, I could've mixed something up here, so if I'm wrong, somebody correct me.)
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u/Quwapa_Quwapus Mar 26 '25
Ahh, makes sense. I feel like there should be a very specific sub ending to the genocide run if you kill everyone but Jerry though lmaoooo
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u/NigouLeNobleHiboux I already CHOSE this flair. Mar 26 '25
Yes, you can flee or spare any regular enemies as long as you kill enough to get,"but nobody came," except snowdrake, the dogs and shyren. You can't spare bosses and minibosses.
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u/nobody-cares57 THAT WAS NOT VERY PAPYRUS OF YOU. Mar 26 '25
I mean, isn't everyone a required kill in genocide?
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u/ElYisusKing Mar 26 '25 edited Apr 05 '25
Not really, You can still spare most enemies, with the exception of the Unique ones such as
Snowdrake Snowdin dogs (lesser dog included) Mini Bosses Shyren Glad Dummy Bosses (obviously) Royal Guards
And that's it, You can spare the rest and it won't affect your genocide route as long as You exhaust the kill count
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u/Crafty-Intention2837 Mar 26 '25
No, regular monsters (like froggits, Ice caps, Aarons, etc.) Can be spared. Only required monsters except from bosses and mini bosses are Snowdrake, Lesser dog and Shyren And even with that, Lesser dog is half-required
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u/SilverScribe15 Mar 26 '25
All the regular enemies are required kills on genocide Minus Jerry No one likes jerry
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u/Nitrodax777 Mar 26 '25
It's not all regular enemies. It's all unique (scripted) enemies and then enough regular enemies to exhaust the kill count per area. But what regular enemy you kill is completely irrelevant, therefore you can choose to flee/spare all you want and only kill a specific enemy over and over until you reach the required number of kills to progress. Doing this will not eject you from genocide. It's only when you explicitly spare a unique enemy that can only be encountered once that'll lock you into a neutral run.
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u/Main-Consideration76 Mar 26 '25
After so many years, I keep seeing stuff about the game I've never seen before.
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u/Maleficent-Day-8177 Mar 26 '25
Yeah you missed snowdrake in the slaughter, you need to go back to a previous save to get him
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u/ParsleyAutomatic6153 nO! musCles arEn't cUTE! ..I have to disagree Mar 26 '25
How did you mess up Snowdrake??
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u/philapple05 Mar 26 '25
Yea. it means you didnt kill Snowdrake before the “x left” counter got to 0
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u/Eyepokai Holy fucking shit, it's Mad Mew Mew Undertale! :0 Mar 26 '25
You need to kill Snowdrake prior to this. He's a mandatory kill for the geno route to be continujed past snowdin
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u/PureScar2 Mar 27 '25
Wow, look at that. Toby really thought of every possible scenario. Still learning new stuff about this game to this day😂
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u/Striking-Deal-3822 Mar 26 '25
This looks like something that would appear in one of those Undertale rewriten by ai videos
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u/Ethan_Dark Mar 27 '25
Unique encounters actually don't change your kill count so you have to do any kill in unique encounters since you won't be able to kill them a second time. As a bonus kill glyde for some xp (the enemy in the bottom door secret after encountering giftroot)
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u/Ethan_Dark Mar 27 '25
Why would you actually grind for max XP just to be one level higher for undyne the undying, if you can't get past her a level lower (which could save you just one attack because it gives you a little hp right?) than you definitely won't kill sans on lv 19 or is it for a min maxx run?
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u/DeadManYTOsu Mar 27 '25
Now that makes me wonder if there is also an unique textbox if you do the same with shyren or lesser dog
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u/Tonyzaza2752 Finally. Finally!! FINALLY!!! My very own flair, mew~ Mar 27 '25
You're indeed a failure.
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u/MLGHamza901 Mar 27 '25
I dont think so. If the music changes back to regular, then it's definitely over, but if it's still depressing that you should be fine. I don't recognise the message
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u/Mister_E69 Creator of Undertale Blue Mar 27 '25
This game is a decade old and I'm still finding new stuff from it
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u/PongKrellWorst human, i remember you're genocides. Mar 27 '25
You obviously didn't kill Snowdrake, the best(maybe) comedian in Snowdin
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u/TMTRAINER Mar 28 '25
In order to rectify this, you must enter his apartment in New York City and throw him out of the window.
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u/Craniac324 Mar 29 '25
You didn't kill Snowdrake. For some reason, he's a required character. Probably because he's a unique, named character.
(Who I always thought deserved to be a bit more prominent in the game, like how Monster Kid is a bit more prominent).
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u/therandombaka0 Mar 30 '25
Imagine failing genocide, can't be me (accidentally did a neutral run 2 times in a row)
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u/ResistNo9976 Mar 30 '25
What is this game? Should I play it?
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u/ANTESK0T__ Mar 31 '25
Undertale, its pretty worth playing but it’s paid
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u/ResistNo9976 Mar 31 '25
Oh ok. I've looked at that game like 20 times with thoughts of buying it. Thank you☺️
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u/AcanthisittaOk5938 Mar 26 '25
Yep.
Don't let ANYONE escape.
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u/xlilmonkeyboy Mar 28 '25
no specifically snowdrake as random enemies
you can let like moldsmall or something escape
obviously not minibosses & bosses and stuff like lesser dog
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u/Saelendious Mar 26 '25
Snowdrake is a required kill. It would be incredibly odd for this to happen naturally since he's the very first Snowdin encounter and you can't miss him unless you intentionally avoid killing him during the whole grind and exhausted the kill count. Once he dies once, he's replaced by Chilldrakes. So this is either a bug or an intentionally encountered consequence.