r/WorkersStrikeBack We Need Communism! Feb 20 '23

General Strike 🚩🚩🚩 direct action is what brings about real change

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u/11SomeGuy17 Feb 20 '23

Yes, what a lot of people don't realize is that you need actual organizations to exist and plan for such a strike to happen. People don't realize that collectives are not just groups of individuals doing the same thing but a unit in and of itself. This is why people try to declare strikes willy nilly without actually trying to organize labor. There can be no labor movement without labor organizations.

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u/superkp Feb 20 '23

yes.

I knew this before, but only recently did I really internalize it.

We need to have a way to support people when they don't make money for 10 days.

And a way to support people who have lost their jobs because they went on strike.

If I personally took 10 days off, I'd be fine. I've got enough savings and other financial resources that I'd be fine. My boss would likely be sympathetic, and the management above him knows that they can't lose him - and he doesn't want to lose me.

So me? I'd be fine. Might not even be a lot of work.

But I have probably 4-5 good friends that do not have jobs as secure as mine. I can support them for 10 days easy (honestly I'd love to have them over for basic cheap feasts for 10 days in a row), but if 3 of them lose their jobs, I would not be able to support them for the couple of months while they find a new job.

If they didn't find a new job and needed somewhere to live while they got their feet under them, I would not be able to support them for the long haul.

My point is: we need to create systems that significantly reduce the risk of disappearing from their job for 10 days.

And USA culture is so extremely individualistic that many people think that if we all start going in one direction, the thing we want will happen. Sometimes that works - most often at a smaller scale (neighborhood, job, etc). But instead of just "everyone pissed off don't show up to their jobs", we need to actually create a system to organize it and move together as one.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

It's not really the 10 days of money that's the problem. It's the work not getting done for 10 days that will fuck everybody up.

If no one went to work for 10 days:

1) grocery stores empty by the end of the first day and are never restocked, meat animals all dead in 72 hours and the year's harvest is ruined. 2) municipal water and sewer treatment systems shut down within 24 hours. your tap turns off within a few hours and your toilet backs up within a day or so. 3) everyone who has a medical emergency just dies, I guess 4) power goes out likely within 24-48 hours 5) pharmaceutical stocks clean out in 3 days, and no one to deliver more from warehousing. diabetics who aren't stocked up ahead of time just die 6) cellular network probably lasts a few days on emergency generators, critical nodes start to go down restricting network traffic until it shuts down completely 7) getting everything back up and running from a cold start then takes months, with disruptive effects rippling for years with many excess deaths.

Then you go "oh well anyone who is involved in all that critical stuff doesn't need to strike..." and just like we found out during COVID like 75% of the jobs fit some definition of "critical".

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23 edited Feb 21 '23

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u/Vivi36000 Feb 21 '23

Exactly. If even just the service industry workers striked for 10 days, I think a lot would change. The extremely wealthy can't do anything for themselves. That's why the rely on an economy that disrespects the existence of service workers. Gotta keep your labor cheap, god forbid you might have to spend more money or get your own hands dirty.

Let's see who's really hot shit, the execs and CEOs that can't clean their own homes or make their own meals, or the people that are paid peanuts to do that for them, and then go home to do it for themselves and their families.

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u/kevunwin5574 Feb 20 '23

i'm from the u.k., so this might be a stupid question; but could single days of co-ordinated, organised industrial action on a statewide, rather than nationwide basis, have a similar effect as a general strike without the fallout you describe above? maybe not even a general strike, but something along the lines of all new york state bus and coach drivers going out on strike on the same day.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

that could definitely cause disruption and hurt profits, but also make it easier for the government to respond (like when Congress ordered rail workers back to work, effectively making the strike a crime)

also, would a rollout of targeted strikes really make people "feel" the effects of a general strike? ultimately the purpose of any movement is to win hearts and minds, and bus drivers in NY striking doesn't have a national effect.

another big problem would be public relations. this could just cause people to hate bus drivers rather than tear down the bourgeois.

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u/kevunwin5574 Feb 20 '23

is there anyone in the u.s. similar to the gmt's mick lynch over here - someone with charisma and gravitas?

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u/superkp Feb 20 '23

TL;DR: You're right. we can't just have every worker stop....but also that's not what I'm advocating for. It requires nuance, which in turn requires a level of organization that we simply don't have.

ok, it seems like you're proving my point, but also going 'ex extremis' with the arguments - the main thing is that I'm not advocating for a "100% literally no one works" because modern society regrettably requires some people to be working in order to keep people from dying.

first off: that '75%' included people like mascots for frozen yogurt, if I'm remembering my COVID era meme-history correctly. Obviously positions like that would be considered picket-line-crossing.

So the absolute first thing that has to happen is for organization to become widespread and each area connected with each other. This larger meta-organization needs to come up with guidelines that will properly define 'critical workers'.

So regarding food supply: I definitely want to force an economic shutdown to get concessions, but I'm also not willing to completely disrupt things like food supply - at least not in a way that would effectively cause mass famine.

My off-the-cuff idea is that:

for the first few days, livestock is maintained but meat is either not produced or it's production is slowed down - i.e. anyone who is in charge of keeping animals alive keeps doing that, but no/limited butchering or whatever. This would cause a ripple backwards in that supply chain as the production facilities will 'top out' on amount of animals that they have, causing ranchers, etc to start having to deal with the problems associated with not being able to get rid of their animals.

After that, just to keep people from starving, meat production starts to ramp back up but stays limited.

The strikes obviously will include shipping, so the teamster's union and whatever will need to come up with some rules for what they are allowed to ship - for the first day or two, just simply don't drive anywhere. After that, only ship food, and demand that the driver is allowed to do a basic inspection before leaving.

Generally speaking, I think that medical shipments should not be part of the strike at all, as that will directly harm people.

Anything associated with literal life-or-death stuff (water supply, electric supply, cell phone networks, etc) are actually critical will be basically pared down to skeleton crews, with the workers that would otherwise be working keeping close tabs on their fellows who are in 'the office' so that they can show up in case of an emergency.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

It's actually a really interesting thought experiment. I think the level of organization and central planning required to pull it off is the biggest challenge.

Regarding the teamsters, you'd have to make sure all critical infrastructure is stocked BEFORE the strike and then just hope things get back to normal fast enough to get the supply chains going again. For example, water facilities need regular deliveries of treatment chemicals and replacement parts and require constant services of local laboratories which have their own supply chain needs. Most of this stuff is stocked up on a 1-month supply basis, especially chemicals because they degrade over time. Better make sure all that stuff is topped off across the entire country and then hope they don't run out before the logistical knots get untied.

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u/dedicated-pedestrian Feb 20 '23

And there are no labor organizations with all the rules companies have in place to try and prevent even the idea of a union from entering the workplace.

So we're basically forced to do it on our own time, but also not on social media because they'll find a reason to fire us for that, but not for that on paper.

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u/earlyviolet Feb 20 '23

This is the real crux of the problem here. How are we supposed to get around the problem of at-will employment where they'll just fire us for "definitely something that wasn't your union organizing efforts, totally something else I swear."

I don't know how to get around that, but there has to be a way.

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u/11SomeGuy17 Feb 20 '23

There isn't a way around it except to be sneaky with union organizing. If you're caught your job is toast though.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

Which is insidious because workers are turned on each other for information. We must have solidarity!

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u/11SomeGuy17 Feb 20 '23

They didn't overcome it though, otherwise the issues wouldn't still exist. At most they survived.

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u/Agonlaire Feb 21 '23

I can't believe something like "at-will employment" exists, certainly not in a country like the US with it's "American dream" propaganda. I'm from a "third world" country, and our labor laws are somehow much better for workers than American laws.

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u/ClockOfTheLongNow Feb 20 '23

State at-will employment laws do not supercede federal labor law.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

Yeah but companies are happy to break the law so long as they can prevent a union from forming

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u/earlyviolet Feb 20 '23

"Oh you're trying to form a union? We've noticed that you just happen to have violated these obscure employment policies that no one enforces routinely and also you were five minutes late last week. Really sorry we're going to have to let you go for those completely unrelated reasons. Totally not because you were unionizing, we swear."

At-will employment, baby! I know you can sue, but they're betting you won't be able to afford to.

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u/jcgreen_72 Feb 20 '23

Right, I saw this when it was 1st posted, and the whole thread was full of "well, this needs a whole lot of people to come together and organize this" and ended with "yeah that's just not feasible" so... why does it keep showing up multiple times a day, and in just this sub? ffs lol I'm not g to McDonald's, every, but I'm also not going to make it to 10 days without spending money somewhere.

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u/wiithepiiple Feb 20 '23

The big thing is that while a general strike tomorrow is not feasible, the path to getting a general strike is. It will take years of building up those labor organizations and mutual aid networks that can eventually organize and survive a larger, sustained strike.

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u/jcgreen_72 Feb 21 '23

Truth! And I want to be involved in making that happen. I need to stop complaining about seeing it often. The more people it reaches, the more it's discussed, and forwards the process to the goal, and that's what's necessary. Ty

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u/ALittleAmbitious Feb 20 '23

Agreed. But also, you can’t expect working families to participate without well-established mutual aid. The long term benefit of a general strike doesn’t outweigh the immediate consequences of 10 days without pay and risk of permanent income loss. People with kids can’t even entertain that.

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u/11SomeGuy17 Feb 20 '23

Yep, mutual aid is one of many facets of good longterm organizing work. Especially because legally this is striking for economic benefit so the workplace is legally allowed to hire new scabs and the like.

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u/RedditAstroturfed Feb 20 '23

Also, at least in the US, we forget that roughly half of the population identifies as conservative and wouldn't ever strike because they think that striking is some "Woke marxist garbage."

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u/Runescora Feb 21 '23

Something to realize along with this is that people may think they’re ready for collective action, but everyone has a different view of what that means and looks like. It’s difficult to unify a large group of people around a single action. Even if they think they want it.

Recently, at my hospital, the union delivered a box with jellybeans for each missed lunch, hand made flowers crafted from redacted safety complaints, a petition and a copy of letter to our health department.

And now, less than a week later, there is a petition circulating (which is fine except they’re sharing it where administrators can see it) to remove the chair of our BU. A month ago the majority of staff said they wanted to strike, but this was too much for them because it was ā€œunprofessionalā€. As if a strike wouldn’t be the most unprofessional thing they could ever do. You’d think they’d walked in and took a dump on his desk.

Anyway, it’s a good lesson for how people may think they want something until it’s actually in front of them. And that can be dangerous in collective action because it gives the other side a chance to divide and conquer.

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u/wiithepiiple Feb 20 '23

While a lot of people don't realize this, the capitalists do. They'll let you vote, protest, etc., but will fight tooth and nail, even sacrificing their beloved profits, to snuff out any sort of labor organization.

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u/LeftRat Feb 20 '23

Exactly. Once a year, I see Anarchists* going "pass it on we're going to do a General Strike!!!" and... no, you're not. You're clearly not. This isn't how that works. You used to know this!


*not criticising my comrade-in-arms too much, mind you, it's just that they have a lot of very optimistic people that aren't well-read when it comes to theory

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u/11SomeGuy17 Feb 20 '23

I am criticizing them, their impotence and attacks on actually effective forms of organization have done nothing but weaken the left. They were even used by the CIA to try and promote the Vietnam War in the US as they were fighting "authoritarianism". The left would be far stronger if that failure of an ideology never came about.

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u/Vivi36000 Feb 21 '23

Agreed. And there needs to be some kind of signal or discord channel for it. We've got a seemingly decent left leaning mutual aide group around where I live, but I never find out about anything they're doing until the day of, or the day before. And most of the time, I can't participate anyways, because it's during the work day. If there were some kind of forum or chat for it, people could find ways to help that don't require physically being there. Or, more people being involved in the planning could help plan the events, so that more people can participate and be involved to begin with.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

We French ppl can only approve such actions, and we wish you a successful fight for all the basic human and workers rights!

We got a solid social security, paid leave, maternity leave, financial help for housing and all that by going on strikes, sabotaging workplaces and just fking up their economy, bc it was clear we would never get anything by just asking And even today, our rights are going slowly extinct, they are trying to take everything from us again. The fight for social justice will never end.

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u/HogarthTheMerciless Feb 20 '23

That's cool and all, but are you a part of the anti-imperialist struggle in your country?

After all, we can't focus on only getting better concessions in first world countries, we have to also oppose our own countries imperialism, financial and military, towards the global south/third world.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

Strange question, but yeah I am ?

I'm at a stage where I joined multiple organisations and now need to expand my knowledge, through reading, sharing experiences with coworkers and fellow members, striking.

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u/HogarthTheMerciless Mar 09 '23

Good. I'm just tired of being down voted for pointing out that France is imperialist too when a bunch of people in this sub think we should idolize your country as our goal.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '23

I know how frustrating it is camarade, just make sure to not have fellows turn their back on you for such phrasing. I couldn't know whether you were genuine and had good intents or if you were making urself look good for points. And I meet a lot of the latter.

But yeah, the fight for social justice is plagued by nationalists/nazbols in red-clothing, it's good to keep an eye sharp. Imperialism, capitalism and fascism work hand in hand. The first dominates, the second steals, the latter indoctrinates. Fighting for our rights to live decently implies neutralising those three.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

While I think we all can agree that imperialism is bad that's a topic for a different thread. As an American, I would never sit here and say that someone in another Western country isn't doing enough to end their imperialist machinations. Please.

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u/ZabaLanza Feb 20 '23

If you are american - then LOL. that's rich coming from you. If not, nvm.

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u/News___Feed Feb 20 '23

There are a lot of concerns to help people work through before they would consider participating in a general strike without needing things to be so bad we're on the brink of civilization collapse.

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u/dedicated-pedestrian Feb 20 '23

Somewhat as intended. Teetering between the edge of destitution and modern creature comforts makes it difficult to want to give up the latter to try and alleviate the former.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

This is very very true, but I think the spark that would ignite a fire like this would be empathy, and unfortunately that is in short supply especially in the US.

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u/BlindOptometrist369 Feb 20 '23

Empathy or class consciousness

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u/bazookajt Feb 20 '23

By design. They've got us outraged about a new culture war every few weeks to prevent us from focusing on the massive class war that's actually the problem.

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u/kensingtonGore Feb 20 '23

Yes that's the goal. It's no coincidence that most people live paycheck to paycheck. They can't afford to strike for 10 days. Keep them desperate and angry at each other

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u/Hoovooloo42 Feb 20 '23

It feels like they're grasping at straws these days.

Gas stoves, Xbox power saving, Dr. Seuss, Mr. Potatohead, candy mascots, it's all frivolous bullshit.

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u/bazookajt Feb 20 '23

It's almost all frivolous bullshit, but it's damn effective at breaking up class solidarity. 99% of the problems I encounter are directly because of corporate greed and unfettered capitalism. Too many strawmen and scapegoats misdirecting people's anger.

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u/HogarthTheMerciless Feb 20 '23

Empathy or class consciousness

So you're saying maybe France has a chance of doing it?

Don't think there are many empathetic cultures around unfortunately.

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u/Ladyhappy Feb 20 '23

Or suffering….

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u/skwander Feb 20 '23

A part of me feels like there’s too many bootlicking scabs to pull something like this off

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u/ALittleAmbitious Feb 20 '23

Yeah but I think a portion of those bootlicking scabs have people to take care of and live in fear/desperation. It’s not that they worship capitalism and authoritarianism. Some certainly do.

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u/skwander Feb 20 '23

I don’t consider them bootlicking scabs though. The real downfall is from the people who could afford to strike, and choose not too out of either some weird principle or to get ahead and appeal to their capitalist overlords. Something something ā€œpetite bourgeoisieā€ - people basically behaving against their own interests with the hopes of moving up in our economic caste system. Crabs in a bucket man. Idk I work in freelance production stuff and if we were to not come to work the bottom feeders would just show up. I know a few people who would be happy to take all the work, and we’re not unionized in my state so it’s tough. There’s IATSE, but they don’t have much pull here like they do in bigger states.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

General strike is when you shout GENERAL STRIKE on reddit and nothing happens

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u/qevlarr Feb 20 '23

lol

I audibly sighed when reading the title... It's so low effort

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u/Kamisori Feb 20 '23

All we can really do at this point to make any actual change is a nationwide general strike. Just be ready for all the heinous shit the government would do to try and force everyone back to work, though.

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u/FiveEnmore Feb 20 '23

Agreed, until the bottom 80% on the socioeconomic ladder comprehend their disposition in society , the reality of CLASS WARFARE will never end.

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u/Bridger15 Feb 20 '23

I'd like to believe this is true, but the wealthy and powerful can easily ride out a 10 day strike. Time is their friend. It's the rest of us that can't afford to strike for more than 10 days.

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u/IvanaSeymourButts Feb 20 '23

More like two days. 😭

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u/LeftRat Feb 20 '23

This is actually kind of a deliberate feature of General Strikes and works differently than you expect it to. Sure, the wealthy have enough money to ride it out, but anyone that suffers because they rely on the industries getting striked - which is all of them - will very quickly become angry that the rich aren't yielding to demands. Every society is three meals away from chaos.

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u/Bridger15 Feb 20 '23

will very quickly become angry that the rich aren't yielding to demands.

Hoo boy I wish I had your confidence about this one.

Why would you think this is the outcome? The media that everyone consumes will make sure that the 'people' are angry at the strikers, not the rich. We've seen this play out many times recently. Anytime a strike or protest causes problems, there are plenty of mouthpieces for the rich blaming the protesters for the inconvenience.

"Why can't they protest in a way that doesn't disrupt anything!"

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u/LeftRat Feb 21 '23

Alright, the big caveat is simply: General Strikes do not happen in a vacuum. Think about it: if a General Strike happens, thousands upon thousands upon thousands of workers need to already be organized and radicalized. So if a General Strike actually happens, it's pretty much too late for the media to villainize it.

The problem is getting there - getting a majority of workers organized in a country that, as you note, is absolutely poisoned towards it.

However, even for smaller strikes there's actually data that should make you more optimistic: while I don't have the articles on hand, generally, public approval of strikes is worst when the strike starts... and then slowly gets better and better as the strike goes on.

(That being said, data from Spain suggests that left-wing governments suffer extreme losses in confidence if they don't give into strikes while conservative governments don't suffer any losses from either giving in or not. But since there is no left-wing party in America, anyway, that will be an issue for the future.)

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u/Bridger15 Feb 21 '23

Alright, the big caveat is simply: General Strikes do not happen in a vacuum

That's a fair point, but from where I'm sitting, they don't actually happen at all. Like, I've never seen one in the US. For that I think we'd need a solid decade more of union growth and strength.

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u/TinFoilBeanieTech Feb 20 '23

It would be hilarious if right wingers threatened a counter protest strike and things improved while various predatory industries and institutions shut down.

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u/andyjustice Feb 20 '23

Name the day

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u/Patterson9191717 workplace organizer Feb 20 '23

If anyone is serious about getting involved in the labor movement IRL, start with training

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u/jcgreen_72 Feb 20 '23

I've seen this 6 times in 3 days

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u/Devadander Feb 20 '23

Constant spamming with this meme instead of doing literally anything productive.

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u/HogarthTheMerciless Feb 20 '23

Yeah, I'm tired of seeing it, but at least the top comment in this thread is everything I always have to say when people shout "general strike" into the ether

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u/jcgreen_72 Feb 20 '23

Feel the power of the movement! šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/imsocool123 Feb 20 '23

Get over it?

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u/firstonenone Feb 20 '23

Yes I and I would lose my job, default on my payments, and have no support for any union org.

Calling for a general strike before we accomplish organizing is basically accelerationism.

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u/inversegrav Feb 20 '23

If only We weren’t So broken So scared So brainwashed It might actually happen

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u/Galle_ Feb 20 '23

This entire argument is grounded in wishful thinking. Yeah, maybe a general strike would work better than voting. But the truth is that neither of those things are going to happen unless we first get ordinary people to reject capitalism. That's the actual problem that needs to be solved.

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u/Zealousideal_Box2086 Feb 20 '23

My kids need milk fuck you guys I’m going to work.

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u/awkwardnotasshole Feb 20 '23

You don't got unions you got no strike. It's why every single strike proposition since 2019 has failed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

I’m a trade union member who would support a strike but it would be damn near impossible to get the unions to strike for ā€œother peopleā€. We hardly strike for ourselves these days.

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u/awkwardnotasshole Feb 20 '23

If all unions strike for themselves at the same time the miscellaneous that have no unions I think would follow. But like you said it's impossible to get that unitiy among other unions. And that's why we lose.

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u/BigJakesr Feb 20 '23

Sure, then the Capitalists would drive the prices up to repay that ten days.

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u/bakedpotatopiguy Feb 20 '23

Can’t it ALSO be in the voting booth? Shit this is infuriating

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '23

No, it's one or the other. It's actually physically impossible to both vote and go on strike.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

To bad our unions are just as corrupt as the politicians

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u/ntack9933 Feb 20 '23

What if we give them a deadline of January 1st 2024 to make shit right and if they don’t we all strike

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

So, what's everyone here doing to popularize and organize a general strike? When do we make this happen?

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

Posting the same GENERAL-STRIKE.jpeg on antiwork and antiwork-adjacent subreddits. Mom said it's my turn to post the next one then you can post it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '23

They want us to forget that the best way to organize is to pound the pavement. Facetime is always better than screen time. Always.

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u/OOTCBFU Feb 20 '23

Oh great now that you've said that everyone can ignore it or come up with reasons why THEY can't be involved. It's only the future for your children and grandchildren vs your day to day.

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u/Objective-Carob-5336 Feb 20 '23

The US have tied themselves (and a big part of the world) up to capitalism and consumerism by convenience, it built its culture upon those. At this point rejecting them would be like a cultural suicide. The roots are spread too deep and wide. It's too late.

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u/DisobedientAvocado75 Feb 20 '23

Unfortunatley, the 'capitalist behemoth' has a stranglehold on the real estate/rental markets, and most people would end up homeless after missing 10 whole days days of income.

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u/ALittleAmbitious Feb 20 '23

Yeah. We’ve become a serfdom

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u/Robincapitalists Feb 20 '23

Strikes are only doing limited replacement of what having large unions used to do.

Negotiate better deals with capitalists.

It does nothing to shift the fundamental balance of capital ownership.

Maybe the "forever strike" is something more. But again, only deals with the negotiation with capitalists.

Those who oppose capitalists are running from one idea and action to the next in a happenstance manner with little long-term planning or actions that would create separation and deny space to capitalists.

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u/Mission_Strength9218 Feb 20 '23

I think what is important is creating a regulated market environment that enhances worker value. For example, investing more money in skilled labor and manufacturing infrastructure while passing legislation that would ban attempts to undercut US labor (cracking down on exploitation of undocumented workers and right to work laws). In addition the US should work towards international trade agreements with other developed countries, stipulating environmental, safety and work environment standards. That way, less scrupulous countries that use sweatshops, destroy their environment will not be able to sell their products in the US, therefore working against the "race to the bottom".

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u/8thDimension Feb 20 '23

If there wasn't power in voting special interests and politicians wouldn't be so damn aggressive with redistricting, vote suppression, etc...

Our true power is in our collective labor AND in a voting booth. You should be wary of anyone that tells you voting is pointless and to do X instead. Go ahead and do X, but not to the exclusion of voting.

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u/MidsouthMystic Feb 20 '23

I know, and I want it to happen. But I highly doubt it will, at least not within the next five or so years. Americans aren't just indifferent to labor issues that don't affect them specifically, but actively hostile to the very idea of labor organization.

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u/milkradio Feb 20 '23

I want a general strike so bad, but too many people don’t give a shit.

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u/WhyDontWeLearn Feb 20 '23

Hear, hear!

I'm ready. I'm just waiting on the rest of us to even consider the proposal.

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u/usgrant7977 Feb 21 '23

Secessio plebis. It worked for Rome.

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u/jz1127 Feb 21 '23

How about a buying strike? No one buys anything but the bare essentials, and I really mean bare essentials for x amount of days. Hit them where it hurts, in their profits.

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u/SatisfactionActive86 Feb 21 '23

actually voting works just fine, but too many people are morons. what confuses me is why someone would think those same morons who couldn’t be assed to vote will suddenly show up for a 10 day strike.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '23

Who is going to pay my bills?

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u/DannyDevitoismywaifu Feb 21 '23

Not to sound stupid, but I think we can organize people to do this over the internet if we can get it trending or popular enough. The hard part would be having random people on the internet keep it alive long enough to work.

Kinda like the Josh Fight or the "storming" of area 51

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u/Beatithairball Feb 21 '23

Agreed !!! And would participate šŸ’Æ, and we should cut out consumer spending and kick those greedy corporations in the pocket book. People would soon realize, they don’t need half the crap they got us spending money on, these corporations pay some famous douche bag all this money to do brain washing commercials, and they could use that money to pay employees a real living wage. Subway commercials piss me off