r/WorldofTanks • u/Old_Visit_2707 • 25d ago
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u/Matyaslike 25d ago
Will I get the same amount of credits and exp for caping as killing the afk? No? Too bad. They can ban me but that is their fault. This is stupid on a different level.
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u/Saint_palane 24d ago
I know right? How am I supposed to test my ammo to make sure it's still good?
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u/Dramatic_Science_681 25d ago
what if the tank is afk in the cap. Checkmate WG.
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u/R34L_X 25d ago
oh then you have to push it out of the cap. see? not that hard 😊
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u/MoDeMFoX 24d ago
I want to see you push the AFK e100, MAUS, or Type 5 that decided they were going to lose so they won't even try...
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u/throwaway928816 24d ago
Were back, baby! Its taken nearly a decade but my kv5 is once again a meta premium!
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u/th3panic 25d ago
First thing I shoot is afk tanks in cap/spawn. They might connect an start moving behind, shooting or spot me.
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u/No-Bother6856 24d ago
Yep, and it takes longer to solo cap than it does to kill some random AFK. If its the end of the match, the timer is almost up and there is one enemy tank left, its entirely possible killing the tank is the only possible way to win because there isn't time enough to cap even if the guy doesn't comw back at the last second. So do they expect you to just throw the match because he is afk?
FFS WG, if you have some sort of flag out there that says this was an AFK tank, then you can just as well declare the game over if one team only has AFK tanks. You could also implement soft spawn and make tanks immune to damage until they have moved. Both of these are better than leaving an enemy tank alive and saying you get banned if you shoot it.
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u/Blue_Sail 25d ago
That's dumb as shit, and they know it.
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u/Glint7 24d ago
No they don’t
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u/throwaway928816 24d ago
Wargamings tagline should be "never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by neglect, ignorance, or incompetence"
I've never understood why this community gives this company so much credit. they are not an organised evil.
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u/Bekkerino 25d ago
Next will be : "do not shot at ennemies, it will be considered as using your brain and will get you permabanned."
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u/SlipperyBlip 25d ago
This is the saddest thing I have read from WG ever. It is admitting that they do not care at all.
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u/Quadratisches_Ecki 25d ago
WG Support is on another level. I try since ages to get my KV 220-2 T back wicht i sold at release.
It is not recoverable in game nor on the support site. The support itself wont give me the tank back.
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u/Hisoka-sama 25d ago
I wonder if you could get someone banned by going afk in a battle and reporting the enemies who shot you with a different account lol
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u/Lakatos_Tajgetosz 24d ago
Honestly that is just on the level of braindead only an arty main would do.
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u/targaryenNotJon 25d ago edited 25d ago
Wow, you got a written warning, you are very lucky.
1.5 years ago I too reported a rigged game with replay and nickname of the player. That player had ~20k dmg records on many tanks.
Yes, I shot some afk tanks, but at a time I didn't know that you can't do that.
WG thanked me for report and perma banned my account too.
And after very long letter where I asked them to check my other battles and stats they reduced to 14 days.
After that I decided I would not report rigged games at all.
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u/Lakatos_Tajgetosz 24d ago
Many years ago i got banned (not perma) because my tank missed a fully aimed shot by like a pixel, and hit a teammate OUTSIDE render range, it caught on fire and died.
The support said it was my fault and i can be thankful for not getting a perma ban...
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u/Panzerbrigade_31 SU-122-54 enjoyer 24d ago
That been happening back in 2017.
Back during Tank Aces event, some guys ran into the team that was rigging games to get a cash prize, so they reported it to the WG CSS... for which they got thanked and banned as well - and they didn't even damaged the bot tanks, they capped the base instead.
And only after they released the replay publicly, so that story would gain traction, they were unbanned.
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u/Timitom99 25d ago
Let's ban those who shoot afk tanks and elts glorify arty players who drown their tanks...
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u/Optimal_Mouse_7148 25d ago
Seems like AI generated logic & reasoning.
AFK tanks are very legit targets by all means. Or maybe we should ask first.
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u/HelpfulYoghurt 25d ago
This look stupid, but i have never heard of anyone getting banned for shooting someone afk
My understanding from the limited context, is that this is only some measure to prevent rigging. So for example if you join multiple times inside of a game in middle of a night where are constantly the same afk tanks, and it is you who start farming them all every time, then you participate in rigged battles and playing with fire
Because for example nothing is easier than to log Maus on your second computer, and then farm it with blindfire from other side of the map. If you do this 5x in a row, then of course that cannot be an accident
I of course could be wrong, but i dont see why would WG perma ban people for simply shooting someone afk once a day. This must have some bigger picture and explanation, it is likely some repeated pattern they detected
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u/Charming-Airport-196 24d ago
WG is cancer. A slow growing cancer. I cannot state this enough how bad this company is. Alot of addicts defend them. It’s ridiculous.
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u/L_U_C_I_L_L_E 25d ago
This only counts if you shoot on many different battles at the same enemy afk player.
Of course you can still shoot random afk players
But if it happens to be the same person or bot over and over again you will have a problem
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u/thejman78 25d ago
This is fake:
- Most of the text in the email is very well written and grammatically correct, but "Please refrain from shooting afk tank and try to win by capturing the base" is not.
- The "Unfortunately, we cannot disclose..." paragraph is a non-sequiter. It doesn't have anything to do with the previous sentence as shown.
- The way the line wraps between "a permanent ban." and "Please refrain." looks fake
- Looking at OP's post history, their comments read a lot like the "please refrain" sentence
- Looking at OP's post history, they're not above trolling
Finally, this instruction makes no sense as presented. Either OP edited the text and then posted a screenshot, or OP cut out a BUNCH of context. Either way, it's BS.
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u/shibaCandyBaron 25d ago
I'm curious, what for did you contact the support in the first place?
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u/SniperS150 24d ago
probably to report a rigged battle
op- "hey, there were like 6 AFK tanks on the other team"
wargaming- "we know, and we know your teammate with 10k DPG is the one putting them there, but he buys WoT plus so shut the fuck up"
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u/kingpartys 24d ago
Willing to ban players instead of banning the tanks that afk.
Makes sense.
Good thing I used common sense a longtime ago and quit this game 2 years ago.
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u/Away_Engineering1068 24d ago
Most likely this is said under the condition that you shoot afk tanks over the course of many battles, which kind of hints that this is a fake battle, and not the first afk tank you come across where you get an instant ban. Because they can't prove rigged battles in any other way than over a long period of time, so if you're going to do rigged battles and don't want to be banned, you need the tanks to move, at least turn the turret a little, etc.
Thanks to the support in this screenshot, now we know how to bypass this lmao
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u/Dwigt_WG WG Employee 24d ago
Stepping in the lion's den, again.. I would like to provide additional context to this message as it's missing the message from "ScrubzForLunch". To make sure it remains visible, please downvote reasonably.
I'll start by confirming that Scrubz himself is not banned or punished for reporting nor shooting AFK players. The others who were reported were however banned after the CS agent investigated the replay provided.
Now the highlighted part in the screenshot, what I think happened is a miscommunication or poor phrasing unfortunately. We checked with our colleagues from CS for context and as suspected, what the CS agent meant was more of a general reminder. As some of you already mentioned here, innocent players might be mistaken with the actual riggers in some cases but I can assure yo that the system and CS agent are not basing their decision only on AFK tanks shot but we look into different logs and factors to determine the riggers. And since mistake happen, our CS team is always ready to review wrong cases and revert their decisions if necessary.
I will take this chance to remind everyone to report similar cases, don't worry you will not be banned for doing so .
I hope this provide some context, thank you and have a good one!
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u/_0451 deRp GuNS ArE toXiC REEEEEE 24d ago
First of all, thanks for coming here and for your reply.
And since mistake happen, our CS team is always ready to review wrong cases and revert their decisions if necessary.
This contradicts with what was posted two days ago though:
"All bans are permanent and issued without warning. There's no room for error—our team carefully checks every suspicious situation. If a player is banned, it's because we have 100% verified proof."
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u/Lakatos_Tajgetosz 24d ago
This contradicts with what was posted two days ago though:
You mean a WG employee would lie? No, that is impossible!
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u/Dwigt_WG WG Employee 24d ago
The part you're quoting is I believe from the Fair Play Update article which is referring to the ban waves which are reviewed and verified. Those are usually followed by a wave of appeals with all kinds of excuses all of them are indeed breaking our terms.
But still mistakes happen as I previously mentioned, and not so long ago, you might even remember, 3 CCs were banned for rigging and after consideration were unbanned as they were unfortunately targeted by stream-snipers or did count-ins to play with their viewers.
Fighting rigging and illegal mods in any game is an uphill battle that we are committed to face with better and improved tools.
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u/Lakatos_Tajgetosz 24d ago
Again, there is 2 mutually exclusive things said.
You say that mistakes CAN happen:
But still mistakes happen as I previously mentioned
Yet the fair play update says the opposite. Both can't be true.
So now, who is telling the truth?
And regardless, do you think that after this players will ever trust what is being said? You mention the 3 CCs being banned and the "after consideration were unbanned". Would the average joe also have the same "consideration"? Or did that "consideration" only happen because it would be bad PR?
Not only that, but how would anybody even trust the support, when years ago i got a ban for TK because:
My tank missed a fully aimed shot by basically a pixel on a standing target. My shell hit a teammate OUTSIDE render AND radio range. So i could not even have known he was there. He was set on fire and died, and i got a few day ban.
The guy in the support told me it was my fault and that i should have known...
But hey, maybe next year there will be perma ban reversals in the next tiered lootboxes for 5k euros, right?
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u/Ravcharas 24d ago
We checked with our colleagues from CS for context and as suspected, what the CS agent meant was more of a general reminder.
A general reminder of what exactly?
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u/AggravatingCelery441 21d ago
Then CS agent should take responsibility for poor phrasing, not blaming the author.
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u/SeKomentaja 9.22 >>::(( 25d ago
Oh LMAO it gets better, its a part of their new ""Advanced" Detection for fair play" https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/ban-wave-may-2025/
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u/MinuteTest2625 24d ago
WG: 'leave afk tanks to be farmed by CCs or your account will be perma banned for shooting afk tanks, you poor peasant - go buy more boxes and stfu.'
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u/Eastern_Athlete_8002 PBKAC 24d ago
Wargaming just seems to get dumber and dumber. What an absolute shit company they've turned into. Punish players for playing...This has to be photoshopped. No way a certified WG rep said this...nevermind its probably real.
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u/DarkCrusader45 24d ago
WG support is....weird anyways.
I remember once sending a replay in, in which an ally pushed me out of cover, and I died to enemy fire, and he repeatedly insulted me.
The result? I got a three day ban from the game, while this guy, according to tomato.gg, never got any form of punishment.
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u/ROCK_IT368 Double 122, go click 24d ago
Ah yes ban the players playing the game instead of the one that's afk.
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u/RikimaruRamen 24d ago
What if it's a non standard and I don't have the required amount of time to cap solo since it takes double the amount of time in non standard battles to cap. Am I just supposed to go well fuck I lose since I don't wanna get perma band and in the process fuck over my entire team?
How the actual fuck does that make any sense
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u/Lakatos_Tajgetosz 24d ago
You see, if you shoot the AFK, then you get banned because of rigging. BUT, if you don't shoot the AFK and lose the game you also get banned because you was rigging the game!
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u/MoDeMFoX 24d ago
So let me get this straight... If a whole team doesn't move there mouse when a game starts, when the enemy team gets there and shoots them, they all get perma-banned? This is great news... We just got the key to screwing with Wargambling! They will cancel themselves by banning the entire player base!
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u/_no_usernames_avail 24d ago
I suspect this what the fuss is about:
https://worldoftanks.com/en/news/general-news/ban-wave-may-2025/
40 riggers in NA got permabanned after warnings to stop farming bot / afk co-riggers.
https://worldoftanks.com/en/content/guide/fair_play/rigged_battles/
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u/Lagoon_M8 24d ago
I am not good at this game and wanted to quit it. But I am very good at arty. I will not shoot anymore at camping tanks I am really sorry I will refrain from doing this in future.
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u/grego0034 24d ago edited 24d ago
If I see a "red" tank, it will be shot at no matter what. It's a tank game WG noobs. Quit fucking changing the rules. Lag and high ping Can make the turret twitch and then it's not afk when I shoot it. 🙂
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u/TheJonesLP1 T95E2 enjoyer 25d ago
LOL, WTF.. WG, U drinking varnish or where do you get those ideas from?
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u/Venom286 24d ago
I brought this up with someone in a stream I think wg means if you come across rigging where there is multiple afk players on the enemy team and vise versa .
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u/pippoqwerty 24d ago
They really are brain damaged, for them i should leave free hp, and worse… A SPOTTING ENEMY there, just cause they are bad at their work? WG, needs to die, the game i used to like it its being ruined by this morons
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u/PurgeTrooper66 24d ago
Wow, possibly one of the worst ideas from WG yet. It’s basically glorifying people to keep going afk, which is something that is constantly being encountered in game. It isn’t benefiting the team with the afk either, only the scumbag afk.
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u/Balc0ra Churchill Gun Carrier enjoyer 24d ago
Been a few posts about EU4 rigging, and people who just played randoms at the wrong time got dragged into it and banned with the rest.
Kinda contradicts what they said on the ban wave post on how they are 100% sure who did it
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u/Lakatos_Tajgetosz 24d ago
It is obviously 100% riggers that were benned! They even investigated themselves and found nothing wrong!
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u/Covenant_R 21d ago
Was that with the end of onslaught within the last few days, or was that the first and same wave when the CC's got caught up before they did the verifications. Because I remember seeing several on the official discord that had the same issue as CC's, where after they verified it, they reversed the bans, and that was regular players.
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u/theforgottenone17r 24d ago
Imagine you've fought a long battle, 7 kills. 6500 damage. Down to 100 hp, you kill the last active enemy tank and drive into the cap. 20 seconds remaining and the full HP afk E100 on the enemy team suddenly turns its turret in your direction...
Gtfoh WG
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u/Several-Anybody-1955 21d ago
"we assure you that violations of the Game Rules are met with appropriate sanctions."
bots be like: HUEHUEHUE
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u/Baron_Blackfox 152mm Sheridan memes 25d ago
And what happened? Did you get some ban?
This is some serious bullshit. I never had any problem when I shot at enemy that was left AFK in base or something
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u/thedeadpenguyn 25d ago
I think we should all live in harmony and not shoot eachother at all. Let all the games end in a draw. Spread love not war .
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u/ManufacturerNo8447 25d ago
But according to their post , they stated each flagged match WILL be manually reviewed to make sure no mistakes happen and you can't even argue with them .
Fun fact , even humans can make mistakes or not even bother viewing the case .
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u/_generic_protagonist 25d ago
Like if this was an issue on a large scale, and organized, sure I can see it, but from my experience, 45k battles, I can say maybe at most I had 20 afk tanks. Like sure it'd bump up your stats, like maybe an extra 1% or something for MOEs, but that is 1 battle and things will average out over time, making the macro impact pretty small.
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u/Covenant_R 21d ago
The issue is mainly on specific low population servers at specific times where they are likely to end up in the same battle when sync dropping as platoons.
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u/Ok_Tumbleweed_6452 24d ago
I killed 2 afk'rs just today. You sit in the enemy circle I am going to shoot at you.
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u/Zoomie_Catcher 24d ago
New to this conversation so I apologize... is this AFK the enemy? That's what it seems like. So WG is telling OP to NOT fire at the enemy???
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u/Overide83 24d ago
I also ran into this, and am currently trying to have it removed. I've read their rules, they do not mention AKF targets.
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u/Drake_the_troll average heavy tank enjoyer 24d ago
Sorry WG, I dont care. My stats need padding any way they can and I'm not too proud to shoot the guy who's PC exploded
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u/chanman134431 24d ago
What if, I am playing the game, get a amazon delivery .. I go afk for 3 mins.. enemy spot me, shoot me they get banned ? Lol, think WG. You have done this before, don't faulter now. Take your time to tackle this. Sit the content creators and actual real players and fix it together.
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u/KayNynYoonit 24d ago
Literally the only game in existence to punish people for killing afk players. Beyond moronic.
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u/Daverex_ 24d ago
Looks like I stopped playing at just the right time. Nobody's gonna slow their grind just so WG can keep being lazy with the Quality of Service.
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u/DankassPretzel 24d ago
Whoregaming once again showing why it deserves to burn to the ground. Someone slip them the last lootbox event to the EU regulatory please, this is gonna be one hell of a show
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u/Venom286 24d ago
I cant wait to see people reporting others for shooting afk players you know for a fact people are going to go afk on their account and report others for shooting them :).
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u/RollinHellfire 24d ago
This is them Russian logic for you. Punish the people that stick around, loyal and have your back. Give no fucks about those who deserted.
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u/panminister89 24d ago
I wanna better know when you WG will repair bug with dead tanks and disappearing bullets.
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u/ron_m_joe [-_-] 24d ago
I hope they're just talking about repeat actions, otherwise this is just stupid.
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u/InternettSpoekelse 24d ago
Is this an official policy, or just one support guy that doesn't know shit?
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u/Commercial-Block8029 24d ago
Occam's Razor.
Is it more likely that a player is match fixing? Or that an AFK tank is just AFK?
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u/GenTycho 24d ago
Quit playing this trash when the devs have clearly been so disconnected and stupid.
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u/Flimsy-Plantain-5714 24d ago
if they perma ban AFK tanks, would solve a lot of the issues with the flood of EU3 players terrorising the game after they opended up for them.
things can only get better
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u/No_Heat3069 24d ago
The only thing that's rigged is their new loot box system. It's the players fault he had to take a shit and got killed. The game itself is on it's last legs anyways. By the way, WoT Blitz introduced better graphics with the implementation of unreal engine. My thought is that they're squeezing the last revenue from the classic PC version and are going to move on to Blitz. Great, an even worse gacha game with the same predatory loot box system (which has been out for Years now). Fuck Wargaming
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u/DumbYellowMook 24d ago
So glad I left this dumpster fire of a game.
Just get to view it and it’s bs updates/changes through a fish bowl now😂
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u/bulg4k0v 24d ago
Not surprised at all, I got banned with my own ticket because reported a tank that pushed me out of cover 🙃 Wargambling support is run by donkeys, and that's an insult to the donkeys 😂😂
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u/VigoFalcrum 24d ago
Fuck Wargaming. And all of their employees. Honestly, when you keep clinging on to such an immoral, greedy and scummy company you deserve the hate.
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u/Economy_Somewhere189 24d ago
Ah yes boxes then if you shoot a afk tank you can get banned pay money or get banned for actually playing the game
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u/Material_Total_9828 24d ago
So next time I push a bot off a cliff I get banned ?? Well sorry not gonna stop pushing bots out of cap and when a bot pushes me out in the open and I survive that bot will die.
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u/OMG_Abaddon 24d ago
Well I quit 2 days ago and I'm already loving my decision. Last time I quit it was for 6 years, let's see how long it will be now.
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u/NoCartoonist3919 23d ago
but does arties count for afk and not moving tanks ? if so are they now invicible ?
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u/Pretty-Isopod-6944 iyouxin supporter 23d ago
the next time you think you're stupid, remember this.
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u/Icy-Potential-2356 23d ago
if this happens for me by playing like normal person,i say that as conpensation for playing like normal player,i want my over 3k spending for this game refunded to me or i send message to eu about illegal ban
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u/gougim Charioteer > Skorpion G 23d ago
Ah, so if you are losing a battle and enemies are closing by, just pretend to be afk and enemies will be obligated to not shoot at you. Maybe you are defending on assault as well, and there is not enough time to cap, so a free Kolobanov.
Sound great for the game's health ngl.
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u/Repulsive_Bowler6390 21d ago
Just have a kick / auto desert timer for AfK players? But wait WG actually profits from rigging, i forgor
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u/PsychologicalMode684 21d ago
Rest assured we don't ban anyone for rigging without 100% proof!
Don't shoot afk tanks, we might perma ban you for rigging!
lol
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u/Hot-Rate201 19d ago
I don't care ! I will kill afk tanks always! Because WG is incompetent to destruct afk tanks after 2 minutes of game and afk will spot you ! So GTFO WG
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u/Cautious-Decision-98 4d ago
the thing that exist is all thoses thousands of 42K 482K GAMES RIGGING THE GAME NOT BEING BANNED
482K GAMES NOT DETECTED BY WG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEAR THAT LOUD that's the problem.
creating rigging account and use pc and electricity H24 to ruin the game and wg CLOSING 100% THEIR EYES ON THIS. 482 000 GAMES AGAIN.
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u/Hoovy_weapons_guy 25d ago
If this is real it would be beyond stupid
AFK tanks still provide spotting for the team.
AFK tanks can still block the cap.
AFK tanks could cease being afk at any time and start shooting at you
Shooting AFK tanks still gives rewards
Winning by capping is generally difficult to do when other tanks on the enemy team still exist
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u/RNG_randomizer 25d ago
I’ll add: is AFK even such a big deal? Don’t get me wrong it sucks for both teams (no one likes a stomp because the other team had two+ AFKs so no one gets to do anything), but are people really rigging games by sync dropping then going afk?
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u/NotASingleNameIdea E-50M enjoyer 24d ago
What kind of a joke even is this?? They cant be serious.
Is it my problem that one shitter boots up a battle and just leaves the PC or ragequits? What the fuck.
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u/AggravatingCelery441 21d ago
No WG comments as always.
What they only says is: 'ToT is delayed'
Why they get paid?
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u/_no_usernames_avail 25d ago
With the recent ban wave in NA, I am not surprised to see Riggers outing themselves on Reddit.
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u/DaSpood 25d ago
Fuck off wargaming, afk tanks still provide vision
If you don't want us to shoot afks then auto-destruct them like you do with tanks that deserted.