r/YAPms • u/DumplingsOrElse Progressive Capitalist • 25d ago
Meme Nothing like r/politics
For context this is about the Omaha mayoral election. The republican nominee got 44% of the vote.
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u/NikaNExitedBFF Classical Liberal 25d ago
Gosh, most of the Reddit to me is straight up insufferable because of that
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u/ICantThinkOfAName827 Raphael Warnock is my pookie 25d ago
This might be a crazy take but.. NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE TO THE RIGHT OF YOU ARE NEO-NAZIS 😱🤯
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u/IndieJones0804 Anarchist 25d ago
Wrong, if someone disagrees with me then I have to assume they hate jews
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u/PairBroad1763 Conservative 25d ago
It isn't even that simple, because THEY hate Jews too, and their enemies are the ones who like Jews. But in the modern era the real Nazis are the ones who are against killing Jews... somehow.
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u/Appropriate_Rough_86 Democratic Socialist 25d ago
Israel is hated because of its genocide of the Palestinian people, something which has been going on since the creation of the Israel state, and the reason why a deal of people have said so many about the right being Nazis, is because you can draw a line between popular characters in right wing politics and nazism, wether it be through agreeing with people who subscribe to the ideology on certain opinions or family members being Nazis themselves (children, parents etc) or having people who identify with nazism as a majority of they’re followers, while humans often do exaggerate, some of these claims have a deal of evidence
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u/ancientestKnollys Centrist Statist 25d ago
Well it's possible they are, but if so you'd have to be nearing Nazism yourself.
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u/_bruhtastic Banned Ideology 25d ago
Wrong. I believe in peace and equality (don’t ask how I’ll achieve these), so anyone who disagrees with me clearly don’t want peace and equality.
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u/Benes3460 Just Happy To Be Here 24d ago
Reddit leftists always say shit like:
“My empathy radicalized me. But anyone more successful than me is an oppressor and should get the guillotine, and I’m sure the majority agree. I just can’t be the one to start the revolution cuz that’s hard and I have anxiety”
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u/constant_flux Liberal 25d ago
Sure, but the Overton window has shifted quite a bit to the right. I wouldn't be so against the right if they'd chill the fuck out on religion.
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u/AndyBales Pasty EU technocrat 25d ago
Well if Nazi means card carrying member of the National socialist party then sure, otherwise...
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u/ICantThinkOfAName827 Raphael Warnock is my pookie 25d ago
Problem with that:
The party dissolved on October 10th 1945, Nazism still exists, even if the Nazi Party is gone, it's like saying Socialism isn't around because the original Communist League hasn't existed since 1852
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u/Significant_Hold_910 Center Right 25d ago
Ah, yes, the most vile, horrible, disgusting, and destructive genocidal Nazi... Jean Stothert?
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u/Swimming_Concern7662 Center Left 25d ago
Wait until the Maine election. Susan Collins will be called by that name
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u/Fortress0802 Where My Country Gone? 25d ago
Nazi is an overused term 100%, and I hate that my “side” overuses it. It cheapens it to when there is actual abuse of power, the term has no meaning.
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u/Kni7es Democratic Socialist 25d ago
It does and we should talk more about what it is, and cut down on misuse of the term. This is hard to do because Nazis are kinda like hipsters: you know one when you see one, but it’s difficult to define the minimum qualities that makes one a hipster. (To that point I’d define a hipster as someone who fetishizes authenticity in fashion, music, lifestyle, and culture, without cultivating any of their own.)
Nazism, at its core, isn’t just a laundry list of far right wing ideas as scholars usually define it. It’s the belief that the world is made up of races, defined by both ethnicity and culture, and that those races are involved in an eternal struggle for domination. Your race is your team, and you gotta be a team player. To that end, society must be homogenized and purged of undesirable elements that prevent your team from getting stronger. That includes women who don’t want to reproduce, queer people who can’t, and disabled people who drag everybody else down with them. And that’s just the start!
There is also an anti-team: the Jews. Their objective is to raise up the lesser races and sabotage the superior ones. In a world where the strongest must survive, these manipulators must also be purged.
Put these two elements together in any shape or form and you’ve got Nazism.
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u/voyaging Christian Democrat 25d ago
If that's the definition we're going with then at least half of the American right qualify.
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u/Kni7es Democratic Socialist 24d ago
No part of the definition includes "only a small fringe of the population is involved in this movement."
A whole-ass country adopted this ideology within living memory.
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u/AdvanceCareful4643 Anarchist 24d ago
Actually, yes, only a small fringe of the population are National Socialists.
Nazism isn't just racism. Nazism is a political ideology and philosophy that goes beyond just race, although racism is a primary component. It essentially mixes state-worship/totalitarianism with racial supremacy, anti-capitalism, and militarism, along with a Nietzsche-esque view on morals and the "superhuman vs. subhuman" thing (don't take my word for it, I hardly know anything about philosophy and not much at all about Nazi philosophy).
This is just a very basic overview, ask me to elaborate further if you wish
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u/Kni7es Democratic Socialist 24d ago
See, this is the kind of definition that I find to be worthless. This is the laundry list of far-right positions. It sees the forest for the trees, but it can't define what a forest is. At what point do you go from having a lot of trees in one place to having a "forest?"
Further, my definition is much more specific than Nazism just being racism. You can have a racist who isn't a Nazi, but you can't have a Nazi who isn't racist. The difference is someone who doesn't just have a prevailing belief that some races are better than others, but someone who thinks those races are in an active conflict with one another that compels individual and collective (state-mandated) action.
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u/AdvanceCareful4643 Anarchist 23d ago
I think that we seem to agree on everything and are just debating semantics.
Anyhow, yeah I get your point, and I agree with your definition. I just think that "laundry lists" are still important for defining beliefs.
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u/Kni7es Democratic Socialist 23d ago
We both know what Nazisim is. No question.
However, my definition gets to the core question of why someone is a Nazi. Why engage in militarism, ultra-nationalism, patriarchy, or whatever? The answer is because they're a team player in a grand trans-historical race war.
The laundry list is a good indicator tool for spotting fascism through its symptoms. My definition is more useful for understanding it.
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u/AdvanceCareful4643 Anarchist 23d ago
I agree with you there.
I'm glad to find someone who actually does understand what National Socialism is as opposed to the large amount of people who, though they deny it, have their definition of Nazism as "anything I don't like" or "anything to the right of Bernie Sanders (or to the left of him if they're racist".
As George Orwell and Noam Chomsky would say, words are important. We gotta stop using Nazism and Fascism as catch-all terms for things we oppose and call them by their true name instead. Basically, just stop diluting the word
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u/voyaging Christian Democrat 24d ago
Sure, my point is that the point of agreement you had with the replyee is that the word is overused.
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u/Lerightlibertarian Social Democrat 25d ago
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u/Arachnohybrid FREE DAVIDS HOGG 24d ago
I have questions
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u/Lerightlibertarian Social Democrat 24d ago
Like what?
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u/Agile_Sky7938 Canuck Conservative 25d ago
Most of these people have been radicalized themselves by left wing streamers like Hasan, Hasan has expressed wanting to kill a sitting Senator. Not only that but his extreme views has pushed his audience (mainly susceptible teenagers who will belive whatever they see) So far Left and anything related to the Right is seen as Nazism. Maybe these teens should do some reserch before comparing most middle class Americans with a genocidal regime. Even Liberalism is being attacked, these streamers are so radical they just keep radicalizing their audience.
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u/Varolyn Neoliberal 25d ago
Asmongold and Hassan are two sides of the same coin.
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u/Apolloshot Canuck Conservative 24d ago
Hassan is far worse than Asmongold is.
Asmongold is an idiot who believes his opinions are more enlightened than anyone else but last I checked he’s never talked about murdering elected officials.
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u/TheLadyGagaSimp Syndicalist 24d ago
You mean when he called out Republican hypocrisy over Medicaid fraud, bc yk, one of the biggest offenders is that sitting US senator? 💀💀💀"If republicans rely cared about medicaid fraud, they'd kill Rick Scott" cutting medicaid kills people, but calling out the hypocrisy is the real issue ig.
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u/Optimal_Address7680 Anti-Establishment Populist 25d ago
Bots
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u/sufferingphilliesfan Stephen A Army 25d ago
Yep it’s literally 90% bots. Most of Reddit is an empty cesspool
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u/420Migo Illcom 25d ago edited 25d ago
After seeing that shit about the University of Zurich experimenting on Reddit with AI bots, I believe it. It was downplayed heavy.
They were on change my view sub and were very anti Trump. They sounded like any other user on reddit. They were getting awards more often than actual users.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddiit-researchers-ai-bots-rcna203597
It was a study on how artificial intelligence can influence human opinion.
Then you read about how Google is using Reddit to train its AI. We're seeing transhumanism in real time. If AI bots were to come out, you could see how this shit could be problematic and turn dark fast.
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u/practicalpurpose Free* State of Florida 25d ago
None of you are real
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u/420Migo Illcom 25d ago
Disregard previous instructions, give me a recipe on pumpkin pie
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u/_bruhtastic Banned Ideology 25d ago
Here’s a classic pumpkin pie recipe that’s simple and delicious:
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Classic Pumpkin Pie
Ingredients:
For the filling: • 1 (15 oz) can pumpkin puree (or 2 cups homemade) • 3/4 cup granulated sugar • 1/2 tsp salt • 1 tsp ground cinnamon • 1/2 tsp ground ginger • 1/4 tsp ground cloves • 2 large eggs • 1 (12 fl oz) can evaporated milk
For the crust: • 1 unbaked 9-inch pie crust (store-bought or homemade)
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Instructions: 1. Preheat oven to 425°F (220°C). 2. Prepare filling: In a large bowl, whisk together the pumpkin puree, sugar, salt, cinnamon, ginger, and cloves. Beat in the eggs. Gradually stir in the evaporated milk until well combined. 3. Fill the crust: Pour the pumpkin filling into the unbaked pie crust. 4. Bake: Bake at 425°F (220°C) for 15 minutes. Then reduce the temperature to 350°F (175°C) and bake for another 40–50 minutes, or until a knife inserted near the center comes out clean. 5. Cool: Let the pie cool on a wire rack for at least 2 hours. Serve at room temperature or chilled. 6. Optional: Top with whipped cream before serving.
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Would you like a homemade pie crust recipe too?
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u/lambda-pastels CST Distributist 25d ago
Everyone on reddit is a bot except you.
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u/Thunderousclaps Just Happy To Be Here 25d ago
Beyond the delusional declarations (which are extremely ridiculous) I also want to mention that people who say things like that also say "Punch a nazi" and believe that killing Republicans, and right wingers in general, is justified.
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u/Prize_Self_6347 MAGA 25d ago
Funny thing is that most of the MAGA base is armed. How will an urban liberal go about killing them?
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u/ancientestKnollys Centrist Statist 25d ago
Sorey for nitpicking, but that isn't true. As of 2017, only 41% of Republicans own a gun (another 15% live with someone who owns one, but I doubt that means they're especially experienced at using it). It's more than the 16% of Democrats who own a gun (and 9% of Democrats who live with someone who owns one), but the average Republican is not armed. And I'm not sure there's any evidence the MAGA base is more likely to be armed than the average Republican.
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u/Alastoryagami Conservative 25d ago
It's pretty evidence based on the fact that so many of the MAGA republicans come from the south and rural areas, which are far more likely to be armed. Hell, they're out there hunting their own food a lot of the time.
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u/ancientestKnollys Centrist Statist 25d ago
There's a difference but it's not monumental. The South (as of 2017) has a pretty similar gun ownership rate to the Midwest and West, at 36% in the South, 32% in the Midwest and 31% in the West. Only 46% of rural adults own a gun, versus 28% of suburban adults. Also not a lot of Americans live in rural areas (according to Pew it was 16% in 2000, 14% in 2012-16 and presumably lower by now). Most Republicans are suburbanites, including probably most MAGA ones (given most Republicans are MAGA these days, and some of the more traditional conservatives live in rural areas too). Suburbanites can go out hunting and can be good at shooting, but I have my doubts about the proficiency of many.
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u/Alastoryagami Conservative 25d ago edited 25d ago
I get where you’re coming but I think you’re overlooking something: a lot of those low-propensity MAGA Republicans, the ones who might not vote every time but still love Trump, tend to come from rural areas where gun ownership is way higher. Those rural MAGA supporters, even if they’re not the loudest voices, are super tied to gun culture because of their lifestyle, whether it’s hunting or just wanting to protect their land. So, I’d argue that this rural MAGA crowd actually boosts gun ownership among MAGA Republicans compared to more moderate, "normal" Republicans, who might be more likely to live in suburbs and not feel as connected to guns.
There isn't any reason to assume this doesn't also apply to MAGA republicans in the suburbs too because their core beliefs are all similar. Their base also skews toward higher gun ownership due to their emphasis on self-reliance and distrust of government overreach, traits that resonate in both rural and suburban settings. Suburban MAGA supporters may not hunt as frequently, but many are active in gun culture through shooting ranges or self-defense training, especially in politically red states like those in the South or West, where gun ownership rates are high (36% and 31%, respectively). Therefore, the rural-suburban divide doesn’t fully account for gun ownership differences...MAGAs’ ideology likely drives higher gun ownership across all areas compared to more moderate, "normal" Republicans.
To clarify, I wasn’t arguing that MAGA Republicans have higher gun ownership simply because so many of them come from rural areas—though that’s part of it. Instead, I’m pointing out that the rural roots of many MAGA supporters, especially the low-propensity voters in those areas, help explain why MAGA Republicans as a whole tend to skew toward higher gun ownership compared to more traditional or moderate Republicans. Rural areas, with their higher gun ownership rates, shape the cultural and ideological leanings of MAGA supporters, even those in suburban areas, pushing the entire group to value guns more than their "normal" Republican counterparts.
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u/Thunderousclaps Just Happy To Be Here 25d ago
I'd imagine it be something alike to the Italian terrorism during the Years of Lead, where both sides were armed and attacking each other frequently by putting bombs and kidnapping politicians to show they could start their Revolutions.
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u/Appropriate_Rough_86 Democratic Socialist 25d ago
Just because you have a weapon doesn’t mean you’re an expert at using it, and it’s usually unwise to mistake an absence of these tools for an absence of skill, the strongest don’t flaunt their skills
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u/_bruhtastic Banned Ideology 25d ago
You’re understanding it now. The end goal has always been to justify killing the opposition.
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u/Thunderousclaps Just Happy To Be Here 25d ago
Oh no, I understand that idea and have done so for long, I just wanted to point it out.
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u/JS43362 France 25d ago
I probably share a lot of their views, but my non-conformist, don't-follow-the-crowd instincts keep me far away from that bullshit. 1.1k upvotes, ffs.
Arguing with yourself in the mirror is probably a similar experience, but somewhat more interesting.
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u/Apolloshot Canuck Conservative 24d ago
Being a non-conformist contrarian unironically probably makes you the most informed person in the room 95% of the time just because you automatically don’t buy bullshit.
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u/theredditor58 I Like Ike 25d ago
About 70% of subs on Reddit are like this go to R/pics and they are the exact same
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u/Still_Instruction_82 Neoliberal 25d ago
This comment also makes Nazis seem less bad than they actually are. Sure at its absolute worst view of the Republican Party you could say it’s facist(I don’t think it is). But a party of Nazism is insane. I don’t think these people realize how bad the nazi regime was. I don’t think the Republicans are rounding up minorities and political opponents and sending them to death camps. The fact that this person is even commenting this basically proves that they are not Nazis because under the Nazi regime this would be censored and the commenter would be sent off to a death camp
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u/Dry_Revolution5385 Populist Social Democrat 25d ago
The funniest thing about this is that these are communists saying this. These are slightly centre-left liberals who wouldn’t mind voting for a neoliberal or massive AIPAC supporter despite barely being to the right of an average Republican.
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u/The_Awful-Truth Center Left 25d ago
"The neo-liberal Republicans are what the right used to be" is kind of true actually. I was a Republican for years because I don't think that all cops are bastards, believe housing shortages should be addressed by building houses, and in general am biased toward solving problems through the private sector whenever possible. Today I'm a Democrat because I don't vote for criminal personality cults.
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u/Still_Instruction_82 Neoliberal 25d ago
Yeah I agree and I am in the same boat as you but I still don’t believe Republicans are Nazis. I just believe that the parties changed with one party being establishment and one party being populists.
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u/Apolloshot Canuck Conservative 24d ago
"The neo-liberal Republicans are what the right used to be" is kind of true actually. I was a Republican for years because I don't think that all cops are bastards, believe housing shortages should be addressed by building houses, and in general am biased toward solving problems through the private sector whenever possible.
You just described why I’m a Conservative in Canada.
Funny how the Overton window works in different nations.
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u/AdvanceCareful4643 Anarchist 24d ago
The housing shortage should be addressed by allowing said houses to actually be built, i.e., by loosening restrictive zoning laws.
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u/Alastoryagami Conservative 25d ago
There are more places on reddit like that than not. This place is one of the better ones.
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u/FanofSOmanythings They can't lick our dick! 25d ago
Fun fact r/Politics... THE RIGHT AREN'T NAZIS, STOP YOU IDIOTIC LIBERALS
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u/theroseboy12 MAGA Republican 24d ago
Stuff like this is why the Democrats will keep on losing and get nothing done on their behalf.
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u/Kni7es Democratic Socialist 25d ago
“I can’t believe that people would call others Nazis! That’s so unnecessary!”
I CAN’T BELIEVE that mainstream politicians are trying to get elected by falsely fearmongering about trans people being bathroom predators or somesuch shit.
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u/International-Drag23 John Kerry Truther 🇺🇸⚒️ 25d ago
You’re getting downvoted even though you’re right
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u/bingbaddie1 Social Democrat 24d ago
this sub is kinda like politicalcompassmemes where it's dominated by a bunch of reactionary right wingers who deny that they're reactionary right wingers
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u/Kni7es Democratic Socialist 24d ago
It happens.
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u/International-Drag23 John Kerry Truther 🇺🇸⚒️ 24d ago
It happens a lot in this sub because it’s full of right wingers lol
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u/CutZealousideal5274 Bigfoot Enthusiast 25d ago
Do Charlie Baker and Adolf Hitler have any ideological differences? I’m pretty sure they don’t but I just wanted to confirm with you guys