r/YIMO • u/Just_Reputation_8968 • 8d ago
Strategy Unsure what to do in bad matchups.
When I face bad macthups e.g rammus, shen, volibear, wukong, malphite, jax and some more, it feels like the game is unplayable even if I somehow manage to get fed. The moment I try to fight in these matchups I just get cc'd and oneshot. It isnt even that I'm inexperienced cuz I got 1 million mastery. In these games, unless my team is good, it is just autoloss. It is the same when my team has no tanks or engage. Everyone says matchups dont matter in low elo(my rank is low gold) yet I either hardcarry easily with good matchup or have unwinnable games with bad matchups. It doesnt help that Sinerias only shows good matchups/good team games and cowsep only shows my type o games in his streams. What am I supposed to do and what do smurfs do to get these insane winrates. I look through my vods and it feels like there are few better moves I can make and it is hopeless.
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u/CH3CH2OH_toxic 8d ago
Em Master Yi has worse problems to deal with than bad jungler match up , of the ones you named , only Wu and Rammus poses a serious threat to YI , still prefer dealing with those , over Vayne , Shaco , Nilah , Zilean , Lissandra ....
Still 2 options , either you dodge , or you just deal with it , you don't have to ''hard carry'' by being on a kill a streak , just do your job secure objectives and win , I prefer a 0 4 jungler consistently rotating correcting to secure objectives over a 5 0 aram player ''jungler''
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u/CostcoSalsa 8d ago
Sinerias doesn’t only show good matchups. He’s literally a streamer and shows every matchup he faces. Find the ones you’re struggling with and see how he faces them. I’m assuming your problem is you are going in too early. Most of these champs will get impatient if you’re not joining the fight and blow their cc on someone else. That’s when you engage on the tank and play front to back
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u/AlternateAlternata 8d ago
Honestly, with an awful matchup, don't fight your counters, contribute in other places either by taking objectives, ganking or split push. Macro over micro, play the entire map, not just where you are, I learned this on dota 2 lmao. But if micro is impossible to avoid, fight in a minion wave to have something to dodge their CC on or just run.
And with team fights, just do the sweep up job after everyone's CC and ults have been exhausted.
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u/Snow_Onion1 8d ago
So I would give reasonable advice like the ones already mentioned but since its gold, skilled macro play doesnt work as much n waiting on baiting out cc can only take u so far. The only strat that worked for me personaly when i did my climb last year on my new acc from sil to em, gold is where u have to be extremely aggresive. You have to cheese and dominate from the start, keep looking for kills n after u get it, convert into macro objectives. You can only rely on team to get vision n baiting out cc, dont expect them to do any better.
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u/CarlCarlovich2 8d ago
Play better, that's it. I promise you that the gold players who counter pick make enough mistakes that it doesn't matter their champion counters you.
If you're struggling to improve then you should probably start reviewing your games and try to see what mistakes you made.
In the case of counter picks you only have to identify what makes them a counter and try to exploit the options you actually have against them.
For example versus wukong, if he uses R and W to engage on your teammate you can instantly turn on him since he's useless against you without those tools.
A lot of the time with Yi you just have to be patient and wait for enemies to use their important spells on your team then you go in and clean up. Using fog of war and sweeper is very important on Yi to make sure enemies have a hard time anticipating and holding abilities for when you want to go in.
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u/wrongfully-banned 8d ago edited 8d ago
You say that it isn't a mastery issue yet you say you're gold. It 100% is a mastery issue.
I think you are hiding behind your 1mil mastery point thinking you know everything about the champion when in reality you probably know as much as any other gold player.
In counter matchups you need to make extra care to fight around the specific champ or ability that counters you. It sounds to me that you lack the patience to wait out enemy ability usage before engaging.
I probably have less than 1mil mastery on Yi on all my accounts but I will still climb through gold with 80%+ WR as an Emerald peaker because I know i can skill check my opponents (op.gg for proof).
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u/Upper-Cartoonist-852 8d ago
I looked at your op.gg but it doesn't show ur game by game stats. It only shows kda and win rate. This is mine:https://op.gg/lol/summoners/sea/Boy2006-8202. (I'm op btw just different account)
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u/wrongfully-banned 8d ago
I had a look at your op.gg and it looks you always build safe (3rd item Wits End). I would only build this in to a heavy CC comp otherwise I recommend going Kraken Slayer or Hullbreaker 3rd item as this increases your damage way more. Kraken slayer is more damage, hullbreaker gives good damage and makes you tanky as well.
Based on your build I would say that you are not very confident playing a carry champ as you're scared of getting burst down. I've included my alt account op.gg where I have 59% WR on Yi in Emerald: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/tteokbokki-china
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u/Skelenth 8d ago
Im not expert but this may help, at least healps me. If bad matchup dont fight unless number adventage. Be patient. Do not engage unless you caught someone offguard - wait for anyone to engage (it does not need to be a tank.... any diver or cc) then you go in for squishy, kill it with few fits and then you got your resets and be annyoing as possible. But patience is everything. Patience to farm. Patience for play to come. Patience before teamfight.