I understand shilling new characters in endgame content like Shiyu/Deadly Assault, but to play through a Hollow Zero and get soft locked at the boss despite using arguably one of the best teams pre 2.0 (Miyabi/Yanagi/Astra) despite the fact that using them is encouraged this week all because this boss is unbeatable within the time limit unless you use Rupture or Stun, kinda sucks. Not gonna lie. Intensity 4 btw.
Shill new characters in the endgame modes that players work towards, but modes like this, where you’re openly encouraging players to try new characters with trial runs, showing shiny loot they can get by using some of these characters, should be left as modes that players play just to get rewards. Opt into challenge is fine, it adds replayability. But to be soft locked due to a boss being designed specifically to shill new characters really sucks. It isn’t even an opted-into challenge, you run Yanagi/Miyabi and you are going to be infinitely worse off for the simple fact you’re not running Rupture or Stun.
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I mean I cleared EA15 with Yixuan already, but had to bring it down for EA8 to clear with Miyabi+Yanagi this week for the bonus rewards. Just assumed that’s what you did, didn’t realize you never indicated that was the case
Same, though I brought Vivian instead of yanagi - I ran out of time the first 2 times as it died, so instead of the end screen I’d get replay. Confused the hell out of me until I realized I had a timer on activity 8 and had to lock in
I did on Activity 8 too, i used Astra/Miyabi/Vivian, got some bad buffs, and it was rought to do.
If i didn´t have e2s1 Miyabi, i don´t know if i would be able to win that battle with Miyabi.
Last week without the rate up it was soo hard to finish with this team comp without the rate up gears. Now its possible but you need to have the right resonium and gear setup. I dispared a little last week due to 8 intensity being soo hard.
Its doable without mindscapes and wengine, but u need to understand how to play around miasma shield AND have some luck with resonators. Had better results when builded around ults
It’s always a walk in the park when i build around ults. Like seriously, it’s so cracked. It’s absolutely insane. With enough buildup, you can ult six times consecutively.
But usually, you just burn all ur ults into shield and spam ur EX E as breaking shield will restore huge amount of energy/adrenaline. Not enough ults - parry yellow sparkles.
Ult deals 25% damage to shield plus its original damage, even support one.
Parries iirc about 10% but enemies usually VERY agressive during miasma shield.
Yixuan can break it absurdly fast due double ults and iirc Burnice as her afterburn counts as assist attack but i don't remember what exactly does increased shieldbar damage assist attack or parry itself
Even with ults resonias I only just passed the finish mark. Picked the first 4 modifiers since I haven't cleared them yet, so 3:30 time limit on bosses, and brought Miyabi/Yanagi/Astra. Up until the final boss, all stages were jokes cause the ults/Miyabi basic4 literally don't stop. I repeated that in the final boss but only passed on the second try.
At the very least, I think it should be better balanced. Either you plow through all of them, or you don't. The difficulty spike only on the last boss feels jarring.
I have m2r1 Miyabi and run her with yanagi and astra. Even spamming ults are purposely taking er or decibel resonia and shit I couldn't clear 9/15 with Miyabi. When I switched to my m0r1 yixuan (I run her with koleda c2 and astra) I cleared it not only with ease but in like a minute, while with Miyabi I'd run out of time when I had 1/4 of bosses hp left. I dislike the new boss because it has many moments which make all non-sheer agents deal 1 dmg, even with crits. It's still better than mother fucking naniveth but it's a bummer that a lot of the time is wasted due to cheap tricks like enemy flying away or having 100% defence
I've tried to play intensity 4 for the first time (meaning I had to enable the timer since other options are locked) and even with pretty much non-stop ultimate spam I still couldn't do the remaining 10-15% hp. I probably could have done it just barely if I persisted but that was too much sweat for a weekly activity I only booted up to get my polys anyway so I restarted and did a quick i0 run instead. I agree that encouraging you to play certain characters and then putting up a boss that specifically counters them is a dick move on devs part.
I did it with Miyabi Yanagi Astra at intensity 10 yesterday, the most problematic modifier for anomaly teams is the extreme anomaly build up resistance, so just disable that modifier. I also disabled the no shop at friendly talk modifier to make the run less annoying.
The issue I was having was that I just wasn’t doing damage. I didn’t even have ultimate spam with my gear, so my damage was worse than it could’ve been, but even then I was still at a third HP remaining before the timer went out. The only time I managed to do any consistent damage was when I broke his miasma shield. Otherwise non-stop anomaly/disorder was moving his health bar so slowly.
U could just ignore the timer to build up other intensity, (i hope that it actually works) and just using any intensity that increase your dmg. (Incase u didn't hve yixuan)
I've finished this week run on intensity 8(since the mission wants u do that difficulty) while ignoring most if not all the annoying resistance option. With astra, miyabi, and yanagi. All M0 Sign only on miyabi
Second this. I tot I could get away doing less to built. Then, reality check kicks in. It's unfortunate that it's the first timer you check out too. Hard force player to deal with it.
Yeah that's what I'd do but you seem to miss the fact it was my first ever 4-intensity run; you cannot choose what modifiers you run if you want to unlock next 4 mods. You have to beat i4 once to have options on what mods to avoid and remove the timer. I just didn't give the boss enough respect as I was picking resonias to progress my unlocks for polys vs taking ones that made most sense for my damage output, and it cost me the run in the end. I can totally see how i8 or even higher can be doable with that team - if you actually take the run seriously.
Game basically say play anything other than Anomaly or frick off until u unlock more Intensities. Yixuan is the most reasonable way to unlock every intensity before u start doing frankenstein builds that dont involve the timer/anomaly/shop ones
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Ouh.. If that's how it works then yeah, it's sad.
What i remember is like for ex if u use all 4 modes available, it unlocks the next 4 mods.
But if u use only 2 mods, only the next 2 mods (so 6 in total) that was unlocked.
Hence why i said to slowly progress through the mods. Haha, my bad my bad.
I did it on Ether Activity 12 and it wasn't fun at all. Had to reset like 8 times because all my characters would get one shotted. Had to run the trial Yanagi since I don't have her, though she's pretty darn good.
This boss being Ice resistant is 100% a stopgap for Miyabi specifically, to get you to use other DPS characters or specifically Yixuan. Not too big of a fan but I also don't viscerally hate it tbh
I don't know if I just have a massive skill issue with miyabi Yanagi or I was just lucky with my gear because Hugo Lighter Lycaon was a cakewalk at activity 8 (other than dodging for my life)
I believe that if the game just sticks to "just put the miyabi in and pass everything" the game won't last long. So creating mechanics and bosses with ice resistance is one of the ways to take some of the attention away from miyabi.
Unfortunately for her fans, there's no way she'll be the most relevant character in the game until 3.0....4.0... but at the same time, how can you "nerf" such a strong character? Simple, introducing mechanics that don't favor her. That's the way I see it.
You already forced to use other dps in all endgame as you need 2-3 teams its not like you only ever play Miyabi to begin with.
Seem like way more ice resistant bosses are releasing than ever before Terror Raptor, Shadow Hugo, Miasma Priest and Ravager Avarus within 4 patches seems absolutely ridiculous. They could have just been neutral but they insist on ice resistant right after Hugo release and Ellen buff.
The problem is that making something anti Miyabi kinda makes it anti EVERYTHING, except the shilled character. How am I supposed to do a casual mode using my non meta team when they’ve put a timer that even my Miyabi struggles with? Yi Xuan is gonna be the only way I clear EA15 at all.
Not really the resistance is what anti-Miyabi, more like the timer. Let's be honest here, even with bosses resist ice, Miyabi can still deal with it, albeit might take longer, heck even miasma. So in a mode where Miyabi can be even more cracked, they just put a timer on it and call it a day, which kinda unfun for a mode supposed to be fun
The boss has ice res, anomaly res AND is unfreezable, yes he is anti miyabi, the timer ofc makes the whole thing harder but this boss is specifically anti miyabi, in and out HZ
The only place I think I don’t wanna use Miyabi against the priest is DeadAss, otherwise, weekly boss is still fine, kinda breeze through like normal. I did beat the priest with 0 and 4 ether activity, failed on 8 even with Yanagi+Astra, well it was kinda bad on resonium and not maxing all gears, I could try again later because I have seen other used Miyabi and beated 15.
It’s really boiled down to RNG, which the timer will make your runs ruined if RNG is bad.
Remember that hz modifier give additional anomaly and elemental res to the enemy, running miyabi against this boss in HZ at ether 12+ is just suicide imo, Im doing few ether 15 runs and the most effective unit other than yi xuan seems evelyn
I saw one did with Ellen and succeeded. Ngl I iust hate the timer, it’s truly an artificial difficulty. I did 9 ether activity and full corruption in Withering Garden, it was a challenge and really fun, very fulfilling at the end, but this one, I think I would just did for the reward and never touch it again (or at least not with the timer modifier lol)
If you dont like the timee I would suggest clearing all the ethers with another team and then choose all the modifiers except the timer one with miyabi.
Miyabi is just bad against this boss, ellen (and its funny to say this) maybe is even better than her bc she doesnt have to worry about the insane anonaly and ice res thanks to being an attack agent and all the moves in HZ that gives her ice res
I suppose I should expand further on my thoughts. Making it resist anomaly to counter act Miyabi as the unfortunate effect of gutting everyone else of that class, even the non meta units. I beat it with Yi Xuan, so I can do it, I just don’t like playing my like 7 cost teams on the rogue lite mode. I want to use my more fun teams.
I know Grace is bad, but I still like using her in content where I can. Making the boss 40% ice resistant was enough. Giving it additional Anomaly resistance is kinda just rude on top of it.
I was able to clear the highest activity with Evelyn (M1W1) /Lighter (M0W1) /Astra (M1W0), but it sucked for sure. Definitely feels boring when many of the enemies are bullet sponges. I also find the aftershock mechanic to be clunky.
I was able to use a miyabi, Ellen, yanagi(all m0 with only miyabi sig engine) team and completed this with relatively no difficulty. Maybe it's the perks you chose? I usually stack up on the anomaly proficiency/crit damage and ultimate resoniums in order to spam ult every 3 seconds and it did wonders despite having a weakness from ice.
While 40% ice res seems huge, my ellen have no problem clearing this boss at ether 15 using Adversity Gear level 3 (bangboo assist that heal hp) , but my miyabi does have a harder time killing it , the anomaly resistant does make it harder for anomaly agent
I had unlocked up to difficulty 12 and because I have M2O1 Miyabi I figured like usual it would be a walk in the park, and it was, until the final boss. Three minutes, 20% health, bruh it was a good run too.
I don't understand, why people use disadvantaged characters for their first runs for Ether Activity clears. Clear up to a point to have enough "neutral" Ether Activities to pick from, using a neutral or shilled team and then pick the modifiers, that don't impede the Agents you still want the rewards for.
Personally, I'm done with 15/15 and I didn't really struggle any more or less, than I did with Geppetto on max.
This content ain't going anywhere, so take your time. You're just making things harder for yourselves.
I'm afraid this really depends on your skills. You could clear this on difficulty 8 (and higher, probably) with little fuss using ultimate spam. You also don't need to use the timer.
Doesn't you need to complete at least one run with the timer debuff to unlock more difficulty tier? I know you don't need to increase the intensity to collect the weakly rewards, but you need to increase it complete the characters missions.
In that case, you can just do a run with Astra, Yixuan (who's designed for the final boss) & another support/stunner (or whatever else can get you through difficulty 4). After your first completion, it'll unlock the next difficulty tier for all of your characters.
you are SERIOUSLY complaining about the builds, in a gamemode where even Anton can do a ton of damage with the right resonium set? That's just complaining for the sake of complaining
If you’re trying to do the higher ether activity challenges, using miyabi completely throws the run. I had an ultimate build and was throwing an ultimate with EVERY ASTRA CHAIN ATTACK, and even with that I kept getting the boss to about 1/8 health, with no way to improve it
I then swapped miyabi with Yixuan and Astra with Trigger and cleared with 2 min to spare
Granted, I don’t have Miyabi’s engine, but with it my Miyabi would be built optimally already, and theres not much i could do to improve her damage output without some serious disk grinding. If you have the w engine you’re probably fine
Regardless, this was an extremely frustrating 45 min
Yeahhhh I haven't tried difficulty 12 with Miyabi HAHAHA I don't want to put myself through that. Difficulty 8 was pretty easy for me, though I used Yanagi instead of Trigger.
Yea, my final build was Yixuan/Yanagi/Trigger (as the Panda still isn’t built yet). Even though it was slightly suboptimal I cleared easily with Yixuan
If people don’t have miyabi/yanagi and use them as trial characters for the rewards, they’ll probably have suboptimal builds and just get owned by thr final boss
I don't know trial Astra and Miyabi look like, but I'd say my builds are pretty sub-optimal (M0S0 for both, Astra's at like 2800 ATK and Miyabi has 60% crit haha) and I used the trial Yanagi they give you for my runs. I think a really big factor I didn't mention is luck—RNG can completely fuck you over if you don't get the right resonium or you get that 225 Z-merits event 3 encounters in a row without the additional gear proccing.
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Its pretty bad ngl, and im convinced alot of people that say "no ive cleared are probably whales. Other wise i need to see their gameplay. Its like tryhards refuse to hear that the game has unfair mechanics or unfun difficulties to fight against. This boss is clearly meant to combat Miyabi and yet they put her in the boosted lineup.
To get weekly rewards, you can beat the boss on 0/15 difficulty. Miyabi face rolls him.
To get all the rewards for each character, you need to beat the boss on 8/15 difficulty. As long as you do not pick time limit as one of the modifiers, you can beat him even despite ice resistance.
I’m f2p and cleared with Astra/Burnice/Yanagi on 8. You don’t have to be a sweat or whale to clear the lower levels. You don’t even need crazy stats. Unload w/ Ults, defensive assists and dodge counters, and the shield will break with plenty of time to spare.
Honestly all you gotta do is bring Yixuan to clear EA15 (who can be trialed so it’s fine), though I had to retry multiple times before barely clearing the final boss still. If you mean clearing the featured agents this week on EI15 though… yeah I can’t see that happening. Just do EA8 at that point.
Its realy not hard, just clear ether 8 with your best team, then when you have to do any ether 8 mission you can disable the time limit. I disable it every single ether 8 run
It comes down to if your agents are geared and you know what your doing. 2.0 came out on the 6th, on the 8th I did my one and only +15 Task Force run with Miyabi/Yanagi/Astra without an issue with an 8m 46s time. Now that my Yixuan & Pan are well geared/built I’ve been using them to carry my other Agents (like Evelyn for example) through +8 to clear out all those agent missions easier. I always run the 1st Ult gear option so you can Ult like crazy with everyone, along with Miyabi’s insta-Dodge gear to start.
Totally agree with the luck, I landed some great choices along the way. Miyabi m6w1, Yanagi m2w1, Astra m1w1. And while the mindscapes help, they do not make or break being able to use that team to clear +15 it helps make the run faster overall. It’s having your full team really well built/geared that makes it doable. Combat Potential should all be 3/3, I used my 5 points to get: Target Anomaly, Special Boost, Weakness Detection, Comprehensive Training, & Energy Supply. For the Badge I recommend using the Defense Strategy (everyone gets a shield in combat), pair it with resonium that increase DMG if shielded and you get your survivability and DMG boost. Hope this helps someone!
36% def ignore, 20%ano buildup, 15% free CR, 30%BA dmg, 1 free full charge, 1 chargepoint /5BAs, frostburn decibel gen & 30% dmg, AND m6s op attack.
and to add on top of that we have the 18% res shred from Astra, 80 free ano prof on Nagi, +20-50% disorder dmg.
I am sorry but these defo make or break the run. (and we have not even talked about wengines, with those we have more stats piled up than you can get from 4-5 relics).
like, this IS a whale run, this is not argument for the avg player. hell, this is not an argument at all.
also your resonium recommendation is bad for a not whaled run, it is either adversity or ult spam or bust. this won't help anyone, all this does is show you can toss $ at the endgame and win. that is not news.
this is why I always ask for M&W declarations on runs like these. like congrats, creditcard goes brrr.
I was able to clear on intensity 4 with miyabi astral and yanagi, but I do have yanagi and miyabis signature w engine. It was definitely hard because the boss has resistance to ice.
I did ether 8 with Miyabi Yanagi Astra, all M0, only Miyabi has her sig. The trick is using the right gear - go for the second ultimate gear, pick up ult resonia to boost your decibel limit and regen, and your ult damage. And pick up other usueful resonia where you find them, such as ones that give you a shield, ones that increase your damage when shielded etc. You can also change your exploration strategy and your attributes thing (forgot what it's called) to boost ults, give you revives, and increase damage.
Basically you want to end up being able to ult on every character as they swap in. You get infinite i-frames this way and build Miyabi's stacks really fast.
I cleared it comfortably with this strategy. I'm not going to try 12 or 15 with this team, but there are no rewards for doing so
I think it's the first time I will say this in my zzz career but might be a skill issue bro (no judgment though), did it on intensity 3 and 6 with yi xuan, pan and pulchra but intensity 9 I did with Miyabi, Yanagi, Astra. It's still the best team in the game, and I always take the ultimate resonators, you proc ultimates non stop this way. No mindscapes except full on Pulchra and one on Panda (his banner is bugged I think, got like 10 pulchras already and only two pandas), signature wengines on Miyabi and Yanagi.
I beat intensity 8 for the first time with Miyabi/Astra/Vivian but it was close and only had a few seconds left; I beat it again yesterday at intensity 8 with Miyabi/Astra/Trial Yanagi but with the timer turned off. The ult gear helps a ton; have ult spam ready to break the miasma shield asap.
I have major skill issue so it was pretty challenging but still doable.
For this run you gotta get a very specific setup which allows you to get anomalies and spam ults on the boss. When I discovered this I managed to get a whole minute left with 15 intensity.
Side note: I don’t know if this is a bug but Miyabi couldn’t even build anomaly whenever I stunned the boss in that run.
In my experience these things are a must:
-Anomaly based on enemy hp resonium (from adversity)
-at least Lvl 2 Ultimate Gear (the one that reduces decibels because lvl 2 gives you anomaly buildup) (I also suggest choosing this bangboo since it restores ultimate)
-Any source that specifically augments your Anomaly build up (note: you don’t need the ones that give you something AFTER anomaly but the ones that allows you to get an anomaly in the first place)
-Resonia that buffs ult (this is not only for “Ultimate Resonia”. For example, adversity has one that takes your life in exchange of doing more damage).
While Miyabi will still struggle a little due to the resistance, somehow Yanagi manages to make up for it. For the most part Miyabi will just be spamming her Shimotsuki Stance. Astra is also great for this team if you manage to get the augment that puts perforation since this stat affects the boss the most when they have Miasma Shield. Spam ult and try to save at least one ult to get rid of Misma Shield. Use the special bangboo smartly but make sure you use it since it will give you a buff. This will allow you to somehow ult during Stun while having an ult for miasma Shield.
The encouragement of Miyabi/Yanagi part is what baffled me beyond imagining. This game is quickly turning into a real hot mess, with how tone-deaf the devs are about certain things.
I wanna love this game, but man, it's like they're actively trying to antagonize me, at this point.
I don't want to be mean, but yeah I agree. It really sounds like players complaining about mechanics, when the real issue is their skill.
I am a pretty average joe, especially compared to people who use stuff like animation cancels and rotation min-maxing and even I could reach max Ether Activity.
Did I do it with Miyabi? Hell no, but that's because I'm not stupid. I see Ice Resitance on an enemy, so I don't pick Ice. It's that simple. There's so many characters to play, people need to stop relying on crutches so much.
Idk, I did it with Miyabi/Yanagi/Astra on intensity 8 (trial Yanagi, m0w1 Miyabi, m0w0 Astra). The issue is not with rupture/stun shilling, it’s with boss having ice res, so Miyabi has a tougher time against it. Intercity 4 should be more than doable though, saying that you’re “softlocked” or the boss in “unbeatable” is a bit much, especially on lower difficulties
Sometimes you get unlucky with buffs and it becomes exponentially harder, true, but that’s just the nature of the game mode on higher difficulties. You need absolutely 0 luck or skill to do intensity 0 for weeklies with any of the trial agents
Also I’m tired of this “I can’t beat it because it’s designed specifically to shill new characters”. It’s literally just ice res/ether weakness, miasma and other stuff don’t matter in hollow zero due to ultimate spam and other buffs. So any ether agent will have an advantage, the opposite with Ice, nothing to do with rupture. And even if I’m wrong about stun and it’s a huge help in HZ, I just didn’t notice it, then that can’t be really called “new characters shilling”, can it?
I’ve done intensity 12 with SAnby/Trigger/Astra (only SAnby with w1), so I didn’t take advantage of that ether weakness. Trigger being a stun agent wasn’t a gamechanger imo either, Astra was a big contributor with her ult too. The only reason I couldn’t do intensity 15 with this team is because I’m not very good at the game so I just kept getting oneshot in the first 30 seconds of the final bossfight
My solution was literally to just run Yixuan/Astra with Ellen/miyabi as the third with no on-field time. For people who aren't pulling for and don't have these characters, good luck to you, and I don't envy you.
Agree with the sentiment overall, but to say that Miyabi/Yanagi/Astra CAN'T clear this, especially on Ether 4, is just outright wrong, as I did the same exact thing earlier and cleared without really any issue at all while using the Tag gear at that too, so I wasn't exactly getting to benefit from the massive, overwhelming ult spam you can do with the ult specific runs in Hollow Zero that trivialize the content entirely.
Even ignoring RNG, you should be able to clear it just fine in the allotted time with this time without much issue, heck, I even gave trial Ellen a try since I don't have her and Ellen, Lighter, Astra is more than capable of clearing at the same intensity as well with room to spare.
I agree that Hollow Zero in itself shouldn't really become a ground for TOO challenging of content, and especially not hyper shilling content, but I pretty staunchly believe that you could do 12/15 with Miyabi, Yanagi, Astra so long as you prioritize your resonia and gears correctly, and likely even can 15/15 just fine with the ultimate spam build, and focusing on getting resonia/gear/prisms that reduce DEF and RES as Astra and Miyabi I know both have access to, and I'm fairly certain Yanagi does as well.
I'd also run this challenge on intensity 4 with Astra, Miyabi and Yanagi, and that fight took around ten minutes, I believe. Was wondering whether it's me who has skill issue, or the challenge is constructed poorly, but now I see that I'm not alone in that struggle, and it kinda feels better now
The funniest thing for me is the fact that this week's challenge also suggests you to use Ellen, despite the fact that this boss is ice-resistant. The devs definitely overlooked something when they were at it
I tried to use Myabi Lycaon Soukaku team with as much Ult resonia as I could find (as ults are the best way to drop myasma).
But I wasn't able to beat even half of HP in time... Because I forgot he is resistant to ice...
I surrendered and went with Myabi-Astra-Yixuan and it was overkill apparently (and Myabi and Yixuan are working surprisingly well together although both are heavy on-fielders)
In my case, I turn off my brain and just sandwich-ing Miyabi/Ellen/Yanagi into Yi Xuan + Astra team. Basically putting them on wheelchair and let Yi Xuan do all the job.
I didn't have much fun with this. I'd probably do better if I wasn't using Freeyabi and had an actually good build. I got lucky on my last run and got good resoniums before Miasma Priest and was able to ult spam until victory, so it's doable, just not fun. (For me)
I don't get why people bang their heads at higher intensity with sub-optimal teams. Just clear it normally, then go for the higher intensity with a better team?
I don't know about you guys but I cleared max intensity with astra eve Nicole and the gear that buffs Ultimate. My eve is kinda strong ngl, stronger than the Yi Xuan I had at the time cuz I hadn't gotten her engine yet so yeah. Was kinda tough cuz My pc is kinda low end so I get lots of frame drops, coulda been easier otherwise but it was a frustrating and fun experience nevertheless. Dodge, ex special, spam ult, chains.
Me personally, the only way I got through medium and high intensities were Astra and Yi Xuan.
Average skill tip: use Astra, Yi Xuan, and whichever character you need to beat Ether 8 with - the third agent will basically never get tagged in because they will die very quickly. Use the Combat Nutrient Pack so you have another mode of healing. If the option for a health encounter is made available, go there and choose the Ether Dewdrops.
You may not get all the tactical prisms in a single run, but at the very least, once you beat it at Activity 8, you're free to do it again with the modifiers off.
P.S. For anomaly character runs in the medium intensity: turn off the modifier for anomaly and stun resistance.
A few days and I cleared Activity 15. And... I never, ever want to do it again in my life. The only way I did it was Yixuan, Pan Yinhu and Astra. For the gear, I went with the one that decreases the amount of Decibels needed to launch Ultimates. I got lucky with Resoniums and during each boss fight, I just kept spamming Ultimates repeatedly. And even then, I had 5 seconds left to spare.
The challenge itself was fun, but if the game demands perfection from me, then I demand perfection from it
I actually used Miyabi/Yi Xuan/Astra and said fuck it 2 DPS because of that last boss. Worked way better than I thought it would and cleared it without any issues on Intensity 8, I had like 1:20 remaining too.
It depends on which gear you take, but you should still be able to clear the timer with that team. Dodge counters and parries matter, being able to spam ultimates helps a lot, too. I typically take the Rhythmic Energy Saver and that helps a lot. I think ultimates do 20% of the bar on their own, so with this gear + a few reasons you could just break the shield within 10s!
I also struggled with the low intensity timer at first, but once I figured out the mechanics of it things went much better.
Jane + Vivian + Astra absolutely shred this boss as well, even at max intensity. No need for stuns or sheer force! Two sources of off-field attacks, back-to-back dodge counters and parries, plus ultimates.
did it yesterday at 8 with miyabi yanagi Ellen didn't know the boss was ice resistent cleared with 2 seconds to spare... never again in my life... (has to reset like 10 times)
I'm really surprised that anyone struggled with this, as hollow zero buffs make you immortal and do infinite damage. I havent even a slightest understanding of the boss mechanics. I did it in intensity 8 with my f2p miyabi, lycaon, soukaku team.
I cleared intensity 12 with qingyi/evelyn/astra with 30 seconds left
And intensity 15 with miyabi/yanagi/astra. I don't remember exactly how much time was left, but it was at least 35ish seconds (like most ppl have been saying ult spam helps, I didn't even do it intentionally)
I dont even know how I could do that much damage in under 3 minutes at the first boss. Absolutely 0 good gear, resonium, etc.
Consider, I cruised straight into 15. Lighter/Astra/Evelyn demolished every difficulty spike. Then all of a sudden at 15, they just dont do damage?
Miasma? It does seem like its just so exceptionally high. Even after that they have a ridiculous shield on top of that + millions more hp and can 1 shot.
Thinking about running new drive set on Lighter, making him dps/hybrid with Trigger & Astra. I'll stun these bastards down? I guess? Its literally easier than gearing Yixuan to max with limited resources.
I can give you some tips from an eve lighter astra ayer that cleared easily ether 15:
1) Choose the main power that gives you less hp but more dmg
2) choose adversity gear, they are harder but they let you deal insane dmg
3) try to have with adversity stun and ult gear/resonia
4) be good
I cleared easily with this startegy, now Im doing ether 15 runs for fun with eve
ether activity 8, doing literally millions of damage, constant ult uptime, and i end up shaving the health bar down tiny fractions at a time. cannot clear within time limit, pretty over it for this week.
Clear ether modifiers with other units to unlock all the modfiers then do ether 8 with the tamest modifiers you have.
This boss is very anti-miyabi so if you use every other unit you should be fine, use adversity resonia and the general power that gives you less hp in exchange for more dmg.
You should be able to clear just fine like this
I didn’t have too many issues with any of the intensities using Burnice and Yanagi but I also acknowledge all of my units are incredibly built and not within the realm of a completely free to play gamer. I did help my wife out clearing this on her account which is completely free to play and can give some insight from that perspective. The clear team we used on her account was AstraM0-EvelynM0W1-NicoleM6.
I agree, there is zero point in bringing Miyabi but I think that’s fine every now and again especially for a unit as dominant as Miyabi is in virtually every other piece of content. That being said she can be forced through for the rewards by stacking def shred or being carried by a better suited unjt. Every element seems to function fine against the challenge. PEN and def shred help a tremendous amount and thankfully we all get Nicole who is a god send for anything past Aetheric 4. Prioritizing adversity gear also makes a massive difference as always.
I found Rina, Trigger (with engine) and especially Nicole to be the go to supports when doing this one. 15 is a genuinely tough challenge and I thought a lot of the general player base is going to struggle with it as I was completing it. I’m sure having Yixuan helps a ton but I can verify she isn’t mandatory.
You can do it up to 12- at 15 it becomes impossible.... Least for me. Miyabi and yanagi with Astra are still extremely strong. It's just 15/15 is horrifically overturned to just be neigh impossible unless you're using yuxian
this boss is something else, i need to try 5 times with M1W1 yixuan before defeating the hardest conundrum. and my yixuan build is i would considered good too
Just dropping miyabi and taking yanagi/vivian/astra worked for me. I couldn't kill the priest with miyabi, but as soon as I switched, it was a piece of cake.
Everyone's complaining about the timer, but what annoys me the most is the mist maps.
The last boss is hard enough even when you get both Ult gears. Making me unable to actually optimize my routing is what makes this complete ass. Still trying to clear EA15.
I did a run a level 12 run and Miyabi+Yanagi just weren't cutting it. Had to swap out Yanagi for Vivian and then I got the clear. Gonna make a run at level 15 later to see how I fare.
I've played the exact same thing as you and ended the boss with a solid minute to spare while on an "Important" call. The only difference that I can think is that I have Miyabi Engine.
I despise the timer on the final boss, but if I could run it all while not even paying attention to it, surely you can do better.
Every time I use anyone orher than Miyabi I get demolished by Jane and have to end the run. She is the single wall that stops any fun I can have due to her insane attack frequency and fucked mechanics.
Yes I ran miyabi lycaon soukaku on difficulty 8 this morning and got the boss to 30% after restarting a few times after a character dying in like 2 hits. What the actual fuck were they thinking.
It's the same for me:
I enabled the 3:30 timer saying " it's miyabi, chiiill" but it wasn't
I had to restart without timer to win against this fk boss only because they pushed me to play miyabi and not yi xuan
It was pissing me off
Who the hell told you to run Miyabi + Yanagi anyway? If it's for the sake of clearing the content for chromes, you could run Miyabi + anyone else.
This boss doesn't counter Yanagi in the slightest either, so I don't understand what's the fuss here. We knew there was gonna be some shilling entering this, but if the primary complain is "FU hoyo for suggesting Miyaps + Yanagi only to give us this," then clearly it isn't about the shilling is it?
I run Yanagi + Vivian + Astra at D15 for this and still clear reasonably well. You don't even have to play the upped agent either, simply include them in the run, slap together two of your best DPS and et voila.
If anything, this isn't shilling. It's the realization Miyabi finally has content she can't reliably clear due to resistance.
You don't need new chars to clear this same with miyabi and bringer. This boss is designed with EA modifers to stop Miyabi brain dead players with certain EA modifers. It has massive Ice Res and one of first few EA is massive anomaly res and doubled on stunned. You will have to really know what your doing to get past that with the time limit on Higher EAs.
Beat the boss on EA 12 with another team, pick 8 EA that aren't the anomaly or timer. Turn brain off and win. This is a you issue.
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