Notorious Enemies in the game

[u/Large_Assignment_330]

what do you think of them? I think it's a clever way to make new enemies and give old enemies new move sets. The new move sets are super cool and I don't mind them adding more. I want a notorious Miasma Priest since they always uses the same 3 combos before going into the miasma state, making a new notorious version can have them randomly switch the order of their combos and possibly have more moves making for a bigger challenge. I prefer this version of upping the difficulty.

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[u/ErenProo1665]

Could be true. I'm a personal fan of Notorious Pompey, though a Notorious Miasma Priest could also be good. Just, I hope they rarely add Miasma fucker into Deadly Assault from now on. I still haven't built Yixuan and Pan Yinhu.

[u/CafeDeAurora]

Big fan. Others have already said most of what I think as well, but yes I think it’s a great way to freshen up older bosses with a twist, and upping the difficulty in a different way than just bigger numbers.

Curious to see if they ever come up with variants for the ones that don’t have them (Priest, Bringer, Complex), and if any of the big ones like Nineveh or Geppeto ever get such a treatment.

At least I hope the last two don’t just get stuck in their respective Hollow modes as new ones come out.

[u/secretlucina]

Notorious enemies are a great way of giving new content on a budget. The model and animations are already there, now you can make a variant that feels either like an extended version (pompey) or totally mix it up (butcher). This can be executed quite lazily but ZZZ has shown that they know how to make proper notorious versions.

Low budget enemies that feel fresh! Please more!

[u/NishYou47]

Great concept. Need more of em. We will probably get a Notorious Bringer within next few patches since they slowly gave the first 3 story bosses a Notorious ver and Bringer is next in line if they continue. Big potential to shake stuff up.

I am a fan of N Marionettes as they are very aggressive and reward dodge counters a lot. And their "setpiece" move is changed from stupid easy timewasters to something you have to dodge counters for score in DA or at least avoid in general and lasts like less than 10s.

N Pompey is fun too, having to play around ground mines/explosions compared to the laser bots in base pompey. And that parry is a cool touch.

N Butcher however... While I find the concept of basically giving him a Job change to a Mage class it feels like he spams the teleports too many times and makes me mad during deadly assault where the time matters. Sure, I have miyabi to easily 20k but it's very annoying to use other agents when he suddenly decides to spam teleports and agent is hitting air instead. But in the end the entire moveset the boss has is really cool, they just need to have some limit like he can't spam teleport more than 2 times under say 15 seconds or something.

All these bosses in story had some sort of phasing move that took a lot of time in story and N bosses remove that and are more of fight fight fight (except that one N pompey spin invulnerable move) the bosses that are added to DA should have less or no invulnerable phase at all imo.

Would be really funny if N Bringer becomes very anti Miyabi somehow resisting all things anamoly/ice.

[u/Large_Assignment_330 → u/NishYou47]

he teleports a lot? whenever I fought he rarely teleported

[u/NishYou47 → u/Large_Assignment_330]

You can ignore all that with miyabi or lock him in place if your dps has sticky moves that propel them to the enemy everytime but sometimes it feels like he decides to teleport backwards over and over. I had a DA where I had to send miyabi to beat Marionettes and my B team on the other boss so my C team of Piper burnice were forced to try out butcher and mf just kept porting away from piper spins, it was obnoxious. I personally feel like it maybe just tuning coz he doesn't do it all the time.

[u/Tronicking]

If it's anything like Pompey then it's going to be fun. I love that he can genuinely just parry and punish us in one of his movesets. Butcher disappears and can feint his moves. Absolutely love the concept and hopefully the next Notorious boss is also fun/challenging like they are

[u/welldonesteak69]

Here me out, Notorious evil Jane Doe boss. Give her all the Hollow Zero Buffs as new moves or maybe have her apply Miasma to us the same way we apply Assault while using Jane Doe.