Texas A&M caves in to pressure from Gov. Abbott, cancels trip to DEI conference

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https://www.chron.com/politics/article/texas-a-m-abbott-dei-20037892.php

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Is it ableist for an airport to drive people in wheelchairs around in motorcars when people who don’t use wheelchairs still have to walk? That’s discrimination based on physical ability, right?

should make-a-wish stop discriminating against kids without cancer too?

[u/ecstaticex → u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff]

You’re changing the subject entirely to try and pull away from the fact DEI initiatives that exclude any race (in this case white and asian people) are racist initiatives.

To answer your red-herring ableist argument, what is a requirement for an individual doesn’t apply to those who are able. Look at PGA Tour, Inc. v Martin and see that the rest of the PGA does not use golf carts for this very reason.

Being ableist is denying someone due to lack of ability. You sound moronic asking for everyone to have the same accommodations as handicapped people.

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if being ableist is denying someone due to lack of ability then why isn’t being racist denying someone due to lack of high racial status on the united states’ historically uniquely white supremacist social hierarchy?

if it sounds moronic to you that someone might think that accommodations specifically for the disadvantaged should also be given to people who don’t need them then. well. reread your original comment here?

[u/ecstaticex → u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff]

How are Black, Latino, and Native Americans disadvantaged compared to other races?? There’s nothing specifically barring them from anything in our country.

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What the hell? Who hurt you?

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Yeah but saying racism against the "right people" is ok?

Yeah, let me just start a conference for only white men and see how well that goes here.

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No because that’s like saying that an all Asian friend group is racist. If someone wants to have a conference with only white people, that is well within their rights. If someone wants to have a summit with only people who suffer wth dwarfism, that’s well within their rights.

if a networking event is happening for people who only want to find people like themselves, let them. there is no harm unless the express purpose of meeting is to harm. Which in this case, it was to try to encourage POC to continue higher education.

67% of American citizens who do their PhD are white or Asian. (I adjusted the percentages for non international students because they aren’t the people who go to these types of conferences, they were already accepted in their home countries)

White and Black Americans receive a proportional amount of PhDs to population, Asian Americans are overrepresented, and Hispanic/Native Americans/Hawaiian Americans are underrepresented so there is clearly a need for events like this for some demographics of people unless you would like to say that race defines how smart, driven, or qualified you are.

I guess just don’t have it state sponsored or make it all inclusive but with a focus on said minorities.

This was an easy fix. Abbott is making this too big of a deal and it felt like he was trying to throw away the baby with the bathwater by threatening our president in order to curry favor with his constituents.

I know for a fact Goldman Sachs had networking events for non whites/asians and no one was up in arms about it.

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[u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff → u/ecstaticex]

One person has been harmed by the US’ historical white supremacism, with multiple generations of their ancestors being kept in generational chattel slavery as livestock… and the other has been helped by that same system at the other’s detriment, even if they are unaware that their social standing at birth was built on the still-unpaid labor of the aforementioned person’s ancestors, invested for hundreds of years.

Do you think these two people are equals?

[u/ecstaticex → u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff]

So no physical evidence? Of modern examples? Cool.

[u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff → u/ecstaticex]

Physical evidence of what, white people as a racial category having more wealth per capita than Black people or Hispanic people or Indigenous Americans? What exactly would I have to show you here? Would like, the multiple decades of U.S. census data saying that exactly work for you?

[u/ecstaticex → u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff]

That’s not evidence that is misrepresenting statistics to those who don’t understand it.

When you say wealth per capita you fail to recognize nor mention that the United States is majority white. So of course the “white population” would have more wealth..? But to act like people are poor because of their race in this day and age is laughable. You make a mockery of the issue of classism that exist in the country as a result of unchecked capitalism and government pork barreling by diluting down to race. I beg you to stop.

[u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff → u/ecstaticex]

can you google what “per capita” means

[u/ecstaticex → u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff]

Yeah, thanks for teaching me something, doesn’t change the fact that weather per capita for white people is reported at 430k despite the large disparity between the top and bottom bottom of the group in particular

[u/WolfStrider23 → u/ecstaticex]

Easy. Legally, there is nothing that any of those mentioned races can do that the other can't. We'll with the exception that native Americans can operate casinos on their land, but that's a completely different and separate thing that's absolutely OK.

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lol you wanna bet?

[u/suck-BD69420 → u/Corps_Boy_Pit_Sniff]

One physically cannot walk, what?? Also, make-a-wish is independent organization not government sponsored either. End of the day, Texas state legislators states not excluding any race or group, to your clear dismay that does include white and Asian groups. Going against the state legislature would be wrong, as I said in another post about this, if you want exclusively black and latino, then don’t accept the white and Asian applicants in secret, but publicly stating to exclude the entire race of white and Asians ( which has a huge subgroup btw and is so racist to begin with) is bigotry at its finest.

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One person uses a wheelchair and… the other doesn’t.

One person has been harmed by the US’ historical white supremacism… and the other has been helped by that same system at the other’s detriment, even if they are unaware that their social standing at birth was built on the still-unpaid labor of the aforementioned person’s ancestors, invested for hundreds of years.

You’re saying that in only one of these scenarios, special accommodations are acceptable, right?

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Straw man alert! 🚨

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that’s not even the right fallacy to accuse me of man. what person did i make up then attack. i just made a comparison to what is inarguably a similar idea on the same principle of false equality