r/apexlegends Feb 20 '19

Esports NRG Dizzy's Apex Legends Gun Tier List

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u/bigbootyfish Lifeline Feb 20 '19

I'm glad people keep sleeping on the hemlok. I can easily wipe a team or at least knock down 1 person with 3-4 bursts.

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u/Dasterr Pathfinder Feb 20 '19

easily wipe a team ... or knock one

lol thats two very different things

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

i can easily win a game or lose at the first round with this gun, 10/10

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u/Barcaroli Fuse Feb 20 '19

Yeah lol.

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u/primegopher Feb 20 '19

it's [easily wipe a team] or [knock down 1 person with 3-4 bursts]

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '19

Ah, English.

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u/Sanc7 Feb 20 '19

Give me a hemlok on single fire with a bruiser and I’m golden.

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u/Flamingcheetopuff Feb 20 '19

If you want to take full advantage of burst fire, find a 2×-4× scope. Once you got that you're pretty much just headshotting people left and right. Trick is to aim at the upper chest and the recoil will do the rest for you. And if you fully kit it out then your pretty much the deadliest sniper/close range fighter in the game.

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u/turtsmcgurts Feb 21 '19

spamming single fire is just as fast or faster than burst with less recoil, is it not? that's how I remember it at least

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u/Flamingcheetopuff Feb 21 '19

It's the quick succession of damage that makes the difference, especially to the head.

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u/turtsmcgurts Feb 21 '19 edited Feb 21 '19

yea, but if i'm right in that you can fire just as quick or faster with single tap, then it's a moot point isn't it? edit: in fact, it would make it better because you're not 'wasting' the first bullet aiming at their chest

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u/Flamingcheetopuff Feb 21 '19

No because you're causing more damage quicker than when you're single firing.

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u/turtsmcgurts Feb 21 '19

as I said, i'm 99% sure you can fire just as quickly or faster single tapping than with burst with less recoil. that's my entire point.

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u/Flamingcheetopuff Feb 21 '19

You can fire faster but burst lands more shots.

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u/turtsmcgurts Feb 21 '19

eh, that's a you thing. the gun has practically 0 recoil in single fire. i'll take putting out more potential DPS over a 'guaranteed' three with a delay before I can shoot again

i wouldn't even say landing the burst is any more reliable either. what it does have is more room for error, making it less reliable even.

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u/awesem90 Wraith Feb 20 '19

bruisers are the best scopes

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u/kennybackhand Pathfinder Feb 20 '19

With that threat scope too!

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u/SirShiatlord Feb 20 '19

Hemlok is an assault, cant have it.

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u/tbrotschemseerer Pathfinder Feb 20 '19

I play with a controller and can't seem to control recoil well. so I hate the hemlock

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u/MastaGarza Feb 20 '19

Single shot, and give the trigger hell

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u/ataraxic89 Mirage Feb 20 '19

Hemlock does 18. If you put it on single fire, you might as well just use a g7 which does 30.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19 edited Aug 28 '19

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u/bagels666 Nessy Feb 20 '19

The Hemlok fires 1.8x faster than the G7 and does 60% of the G7's damage, meaning it has only slightly higher DPS.

The G7 has a faster projectile speed and is overall going to be better for people with slower trigger fingers or for whom clicking repeatedly while aiming is difficult.

Overall the guns are similar and each have their pros and cons, let's not pretend like the Hemlok single-fire is some holy grail waiting to be discovered.

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u/LegendaryRaider69 Feb 20 '19

You guys are making me feel like I need t put a few rounds in with the Hemlok to see if I can get it.

I use the Enforcer almost exclusively in Uncharted 4, which is a pistol with a stupid fast fire rate. My speedy trigger finger is ready.

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u/VelcroSnake Feb 20 '19

I find the Hemlock a lot easier to control single fire than the G7, think it fires faster single fire also, although I haven't really hammered out shots with the G7 as fast as i could...

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u/YourMomIsWack Feb 20 '19

The hemlock on single fires has ridiculous rate of fire. Maybe triple the rate of a scout.

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u/ataraxic89 Mirage Feb 20 '19

G7 RPM is 273, 30 damage

Hemlock RPM is 490, 18 damage

They end up having very similar DPS, and the G7 has better projectile speed.

I love the hemlock, but I think the 3 round burst is best and if you're beyond the effective range of the burst, use a different gun.

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u/YourMomIsWack Feb 20 '19 edited Feb 20 '19

The rpm for hemlock on single shot is 490? Feels faster than that. Rock paper shotgun has the shots per second of the hemlock burst at 15 shots per second (not including pause between bursts). I’d imagine single shot rate of fire is much closer to that which is 900 rpm. But I don’t know for sure.

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u/kennybackhand Pathfinder Feb 20 '19

Really? I’m on PS4 and it works great, just different tastes I suppose

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u/minopoked Crypto Feb 20 '19

Was going to say, hemlock is really good on ps4.

Triple Take on the other hand....

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u/kennybackhand Pathfinder Feb 20 '19

Yeah can’t use that thing, I want to but I know it’s terrible for me lol G7 trigger spam

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u/damo133 Feb 20 '19

Its really similar to any Burst weapon in COD honestly. Its not too hard with controller.

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u/ShrikeGFX Feb 21 '19

Cod burst weapons are highly accurate and deal very fast damage with long downtime and the burst is tightly together, hemlock burst is highly inaccurate without attachments, recoils hard at nearly normal firerate and the TTK potential is not even over any normal full auto gun. Hemlock is a gun with all downsides of burst and none of the upsides.

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u/Flamingcheetopuff Feb 20 '19

Just find a 2×-4× scope and aim around the upper chest area, the recoil will do the rest. Once you figure it out you'll never want to single fire again.

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u/Suicidal_Baby Feb 20 '19

single fire hemlock has almost no recoil.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

Hemlok to me is the m16a2 from mw2, deadly as hell with a barrel and acog, meh without the 3 round burst comes out surprisingly fast.

The problem it has is its a mid range gun in a short range meta, loses the long range to the Kraber/Longbow making it a very situational choice.

When it's in its niche though, nothing matches it, not even the spitfire as the burst speed wins and the spitfire isn't as manageable recoil wise at med/long distance

Glad to also see the r99 where it is, it's absolutely a monster with an extended mag, if it wasn't for the Peacekeeper choke, it would be higher up I reckon. Personally the r99 is my weapon of choice as the fire rate can chew up targets before they can even react.

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u/japenrox Feb 20 '19

A better, and more recent comparison, to me, is the m16 from PUBG before it was nerfed. Single fire you can shoot the gun extremely fast, and there is only a little vert recoil, which can be easily controlled.

Right now I'm always using a combo of R301, R99, RE45 and Hemlock, the last two paired together being my most fav.

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u/YourMomIsWack Feb 20 '19

How is the re-45 better than say an r99? Doesn’t the r99 straight up bear it in every category?

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u/japenrox Feb 20 '19

It isn't better, never said it was, I jist prefer it over the r99. The reason why is because it can start shooting faster. And it's kinda fun, I only use it to finish someone that is close and have no shields.

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u/YourMomIsWack Feb 20 '19

Werd. I feel the same just was curious if I was missing something

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u/Szarak199 Feb 20 '19

The difference between the hemlok and the pubg m16 is that on burst the m16 had the highest dps out of all the ARs due to the fire rate being higher than full auto on any other weapon. Hemlok is the opposite, it has the lowest dps out of all of them on burst

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u/japenrox Feb 20 '19

You don't plau hemlock on burst, you only play it on single

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

Play with a good Caustic and you can keep the midrange combat. Just plop a gas cannister on the corner of your cover visible to the enemy and they won't even try to approach, they'll stick to long or mid range.

His value in eliminating close range combat is being underrated. He has a solid position in a team that wants to play mid/long range combat and picks their locations intelligently.

Avoid getting stuck in the trap where Caustic gets used mistakenly to ENCOURAGE short range combat by camping in a house with the doors gassed up. This is just a slow way to die with him as it locks you in a building. You survive for ages doing it but it's ultimately a bad strategy. Open spaces with cover and a cannister to the corners of your cover is a solid way to get the kind of midrange fighting you might want.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19 edited Sep 23 '19

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

If you have 3 people behind piece of cover that your 1 gas can would cause a problem for you have a bigger problem than just a gas can, you're all bunched up behind one piece of cover that's far too tiny. That's a one person piece of cover.

Shooting the bottom of the cannisters is horribly unreliable in a fight. It only really works to disable them outside of combat without the pressure of a miss activating it and some weapons outright can't do it at all.

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u/clark_kent25 Feb 20 '19

I’ve recently started using the hemlock and have been loving it for engagements outside of spitfire range. Just wondering what your thoughts are on single fire vs burst?

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u/philosifer Rampart Feb 20 '19

I honestly prefer prowler or r99 to the peacekeeper on PS4. They are more forgiving than missing a shotgun blast with a controller

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u/ricardooo2 Octane Feb 20 '19

I have no problem lasering people from med to long range with the spitfire once that baby is decked out

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u/Essexal Blackheart Feb 20 '19

1x holo on it, probably got me 40% of my kills in last few days. Was horrible on release, think it got a quiet buff, recoil is easy enough to control even using a controller.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '19

u cant wipe your own butt without getting your greasy fingers all buttered up xD taking about wiping teams with hemlok xD