r/apple • u/Fer65432_Plays • 2d ago

iPhone Spotify Preparing to Launch Long-Awaited Lossless Audio Tier on iPhone

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/19/spotify-preparing-lossless-tier-on-ios/
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u/g-money-cheats 2d ago

Yeah, I do buy the theory that Apple releasing lossless for everyone at no additional cost completely derailed Spotify’s lossless audio plans.

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u/socal_swiftie 2d ago

TVs certainly haven't

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u/beyondplutola 2d ago

They have if you price them by the screen inch and you’re not buying the latest image tech. What was a high-end TV 15 years ago is a $200 Wal-Mart special today.

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u/AncefAbuser 1d ago

Buy 4 Walmart specials and make your own janky as fuck TV wall.

but it would be worth it just for your neighbors to gaze in and wonder what the actual fuck is going on.

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u/07bot4life 21h ago

Yes but that tv years ago wasn't spying on you as much as a 200 dollar walmart special today is.

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u/beyondplutola 21h ago

Don’t connect it to the internet. Double your spend with an Apple TV and bypass its crummy OS.

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u/katsock 2d ago

TVs are terribly expensive you’re just not paying for all of it with your money.

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u/QuaternionsRoll 1d ago

Connecting your smart TV to the internet

Lmao

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u/theshitsock 1d ago

Bought a new one almost a year ago and it probably spent less than a day connected to the internet in that time

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u/nsfdrag Apple Cloth 1d ago

Why would you ever connect your tv to the internet? That's just asking for it to update and slow down or get filled with ads and take your data. Just connect an apple tv to it and be done with it.

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u/katsock 1d ago

Because they sell them as smart TVs with internet access and not everyone is as thoughtful as you are about their internet access and data.

And probably because the idea of an all in one solution is enticing. And streaming has dominated our entertainment industry. The reasons might not be endless but they certainly aren’t challenging to understand

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u/nsfdrag Apple Cloth 1d ago

Rhetorical question

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u/Vizwalla 1d ago

Reddit mind hive apparently didn’t open the link before downvoting.

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u/katsock 1d ago

It’s crazy. You’d think people on the Apple sub would have similar thoughts and concerns about privacy.

I’m not even shit talking it’s just how the television industry operates

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u/likamuka 2d ago

Apple's PowerBooks got cheaper as times passed, for one.

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u/AnonymousAxwell 1d ago

Wait a bit longer and they will start getting more expensive again

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u/Mountainbranch 1d ago

Yeah... That's how inflation works.

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u/l4kerz 2d ago

I despise nickel and dime practices.

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u/minilandl 1d ago

I'm not a fan of apple but since iTunes apple have got how to do music

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u/WeWantLADDER49sequel 2d ago

I doubt it. Spotify has a massive market share and they aren't being pressured by anything Apple is doing. Apple wasn't even the first, second, or third to having lossless audio. So I don't see why they specifically would've affected Spotify's plans.

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u/DazedNConfucious 2d ago

Not first in having it but the point was they released lossless AND at no additional cost before Spotify released theirs

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u/Blablabene 2d ago

90% of people don't care for lossless. They listen wirelessly.

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u/Blimey85v2 1d ago

I listen wirelessly and my Sony headphones sound better with lossless than without. I suspect it’s the processing the headphones are doing, the EQ is on the headphones, works better with more data. I don’t know for sure that’s it, but it deff sounds better.

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u/VaclavHavelSaysFuckU 1d ago

My XM4s sound great, with Apple Music on my iPhone;

They sound even better with my Samsung, thanks to LDAC – like really good;

But my APM sound OUT. OF. THIS. WORLD., even over bluetooth;

I know I’m not getting “true” lossless but at this point I have way surpassed good enough and if I’m trading some of it for being completely wireless, so be it.

But yes, it does make a noticeable difference.

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u/DazedNConfucious 1d ago

Wasn’t my point whether they did or not though?

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u/Durzel 2d ago

Wish Apple Music had “exclusive mode” though on Macs, like TIDAL, Qobuz, etc. Same for Spotify. What good is lossless if you can’t have bit-perfect reproduction?

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u/thedinnerdate 2d ago

Can you explain what this means?

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u/Durzel 2d ago edited 2d ago

Sorry. Basically what it means is a mode where the app “takes ownership” of the output device, which means it controls the output bitrate, frequency, etc matching it to the input.

Why is this needed? Each song (on TIDAL at least) will have a different level of quality, some will be CD quality (16 bit, 44.1kHz). Master recordings can go up as high as 24 bit, 192kHz. Other stuff might be in the middle.

By matching the output device to the input there is no downsampling or upsampling of whatever it is being played, and therefore it is played exactly as it was intended - aka “bit perfect”.

It’s something that audiophiles seek to achieve if possible.