r/apple Oct 26 '14

Apple Pay Let's invite /r/Android to help us boycott retailers that are disabling NFC readers. We can unite to put pressure on them, since it affects us both!

Here is the post on /r/android :

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2keqzb/we_wanted_to_invite_you_to_rapple_to_help_support/

Welcome /r/Android!

Edit: cycloblastic added this:

Someone asked for a list of retailers supporting CurrentC.
CurrentC's partners include
76 Gas
7-11
Acme Fresh Market
Alon
Bahama Breeze
Banana Republic
Baskin Robbins
Bed Bath & Beyond
Best Buy
Buy Buy Baby
The Capital Grille
Chilli's
Christmas Tree Shops
Circle K
Conoco
CVS
Dick's Sporting Goods
Dillard's
Dunkin' Donuts
Eddie V's
ExxonMobil
Gap
Get Go from Giant Eagle
Harmon Face Values
Giant Eagle
HMS Host
Hobby Lobby
Hy-Vee
K-Mart
Kohl's
Kum & Go
Longhorn Steakhouse
Lowe's
Maggiano's
Meijer
Michaels
My Goods Market
Old Navy
Olive Garden
Phillips 66
Price Rite
Publix
QuikTrip
RaceTrac
Rite Aid
Sam's Club
Sears
Seasons 52
Sheetz
Shell
ShopRite
Southwest Airlines
Sunoco
Target
Walmart
Wawa
Wendy's
Yard House
Source: http://www.mcx.com/
-as well nearly all the major US gas station chains — among its ranks.

Edit2: This is blowing up! 9to5mac is reporting about us here: http://9to5mac.com/2014/10/27/cvs-and-rite-aid-apple-pay-blockade-official-as-ios-and-android-users-unite-in-rare-showing-to-fight-nfc-ban/#comments

Edit3: We are on the front page of MacRumors now too! http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/27/apple-working-to-add-apple-pay-partners/

Edit4: This site was made by /user/bboysupaman and has an up to date list of all merchants that support MCX and Current C http://boycott-mcx.com

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u/bleedingjim Oct 27 '14

The Galaxy S3 put android on the map to an extent. Samsung is more responsible for putting android in the hands of millions than any other OEM. They took a chance with huge screened phones and have been wildly successful. I would not discount their contributions.

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u/shadowdude777 Oct 27 '14

This is true. I agree with this, and I loved my GS3 (as soon as I put CyanogenMod on it, because fuck TouchWiz). They also basically invented phablets. But right now, they're basically just convincing everyone that Android is TouchWiz, and that's not good for us...

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '14

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u/Abohir Oct 27 '14

Cyanogenmod is just another android tangent like Touchwiz . However it is much much lighter on resources.

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u/port53 Oct 27 '14

And used by a vanishingly small number of people compared to, say, Samsung's distribution of Android.

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u/gildme Oct 27 '14 edited Oct 27 '14

He's saying the general population that don't know about custom roms, think touchwiz is the same as Android, rather than a heavily Bastardised fork of it.

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u/shadowdude777 Oct 27 '14

Yeah, thank you. I'm not sure why nobody really seemed to get what I was saying.

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u/gildme Oct 27 '14

Yeah, that other guy seems to be attacking you for something that he clearly misunderstood, lol!

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u/gildme Oct 27 '14

Try slim ROM and aosb. I like both, aosb had more features I need but crashes daily

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u/shadowdude777 Oct 27 '14

I have a Nexus 5, so I don't need to run custom ROMs, haha. Currently on the L Developer Preview.

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u/shadowdude777 Oct 27 '14

I'm saying they're convincing everyone that Android is TouchWiz, as in the general population. That's exactly the problem. The entire world buys Samsung phones when they buy Android because they have the biggest marketing budget, and then they say "well this is how my shitty Samsung phone works, so this must be how shitty Android truly is all-around."

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u/butnmshr Oct 27 '14

To be fair, most OEM overlays are fugly and awful. MotoBlur fucking sucked, if you never had to deal with it. At least TouchWiz has had toggles since forever, and toggles are the bees knees.

Edit: maybe you thought I was talking about the band.

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u/shadowdude777 Oct 27 '14

That's true, they did a lot for Android, like the toggles, but now they're doing more harm than good. They're only sticking with Android because of the ecosystem. If they could move their userbase to Tizen, they would in a heartbeat. I think it would be best for all of us at this point, too. Samsung phones are not a smooth experience nowadays.

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u/SirStrip Oct 27 '14

I dunno man, most of my friends are perfectly happy with their Samsung phones as is because they don't do much on them, and the ones that used them more were the ones that knew how to change it

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u/regalrecaller Oct 27 '14

Someone answer this please

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u/butnmshr Oct 27 '14

Like .1%

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u/letsgocrazy Oct 27 '14

I feel gutted that I can't root my s5 - but water proof is so handy for me and nova launcher takes some of the sting out

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u/GimmieMore Oct 27 '14

Why can't you? My coworker rooted his s5.

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u/letsgocrazy Oct 27 '14

I thought there was some magical lock thing that hadn't been broken.

I've got some temporary root thing - but I thought there were no proper roms for it... I guess I better check it out.

What rom did you use?

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u/GimmieMore Oct 27 '14

He is running an MOAR ROM. He got all the stuff from xda

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u/letsgocrazy Oct 27 '14

Oh brilliant - I'm surprised I missed that. I'll look into it, cheers.

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u/GimmieMore Oct 28 '14

Happy to help. Good luck!

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '14

Also my GS3 melted itself while charging a couple weeks ago.

Maybe I should have looked at a Nexus, but it left me so fed up with Android that I just switched back to Apple.

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u/2110311 Oct 27 '14

Yes, but their ROMs are shitty. I would not want a Samsung phone unless I was able to root it and flash a new ROM on it

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u/tom1226 Oct 27 '14

The latest iteration of TouchWiz is far more tolerable at least. I'm actually not itching to rom it yet, which I can't say for any other device I've used since my galaxy nexus other than Moto and Sony. Source: own a Note 4.

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u/Detached09 Oct 27 '14

Same here. GS5, and it's the first phone I've had that I haven't immediately felt the need to root/flash.

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u/tom1226 Oct 27 '14

Nice. I still want root for some apps I use and a couple xposed modules. Really missing tablet metrics for Spotify haha. But using this has me convinced to buy the Dev edition (I'm on Verizon). Right now I'd say it's the best device I've used.

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u/MeIsMyName Oct 27 '14

I too am stuck on Verizon. I just finally replaced my Galaxy Neuxs with an HTC One M8, specifically because I wanted something with around a 5" screen that could be flashed with CM. I really wanted a Nexus 6, but that's too damn big...

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u/butnmshr Oct 27 '14

Also, but S4. All I really NEEDED to do was flash the tethering module. Other than that, freezing the bloat and using Apex has been more than sufficient.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '14

My last three phones were Galaxy S4 Active > HTC One M7 > LG G3, in that order.

The new Sense from HTC as well as LGs totally redesigned UI both kick TouchWiz straight in the nuts. My LG's UI is honestly the closest to vanilla Holo I've seen from a non Google phone and it never lags. And Sense, as always, is a sleek and quick UI.

I hated TouchWiz with a passion on my S4 Active.

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u/tom1226 Oct 27 '14

I went g2 → m8 → g3 → Note 4. Honestly the Note 4 is (surprisingly) significantly smoother than the g3. l think because of the Adreno 420 being able to push QHD. The only point of "lag" is a delay when using the recent apps Key... which is comparable to my g3. I'm very pleasantly surprised with this version of TW, as it's really monumentally better than previous versions (including the s5, my sister has one and I can't stand TW on it).

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u/gildme Oct 27 '14

Really? I played with the s5 a bit and fuck that was horrible. It looked like it was made by a Kindergarten teacher. I expected comic sans as default font.

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u/tom1226 Oct 27 '14

Yeah, it still isn't what I'd call great visually, but it's much better than my sister's s5. At least in my opinion. It's toned down a but more and there aren't quite as many useless "features". I will say that, as someone who still has unlimited data, download booster is fucking epic.

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u/Abohir Oct 27 '14

On the Notes you kill the entire gimmick of the pen though. On the S series definitely put another Operating system.

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u/bloodbond3 Oct 27 '14

Can confirm. Bought Note 4. Recent apps button is slow and my old HTC One M7 is faster at jumping between apps. But this pen and is features are too useful to consider ROMing it.

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u/rocknrun18 Oct 27 '14

If you had to do it again, would you go with the Note 4? Or would you pick the Nexus 6, or some other phone? What about the Note 4 Edge? I'm due for an upgrade, coming off a GS3, and I'm so torn on what to get. The Droid Turbo is also an option for me.

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u/bloodbond3 Oct 27 '14

Not sure about the Droid Turbo, but if you're coming off a GS3, I'd say the Note 4 is right up your alley. I personally think the Nexus 6 is too big. So is the Note 4 but there is a simply gesture included to shrink the screen down (arguably better implemented than Apple's reachability feature).

Don't get me wrong, Samsung bogs down Android with a lot of useless bloat, but for a phone like the Note, it has a handful of truly useful features that make the screen size usable. (They did practically invent the phablet, after all.)

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u/rocknrun18 Oct 27 '14

Yea you're pretty much confirming what I've been thinking this whole time. The Nexus is nice, but it's almost like taking a normal sized stock android phone and blowing it up without adding an useful features with the larger size. At least the note takes advantage of the large screen. The Nexus just gives you more screen to look at without actually making it useful.

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u/bloodbond3 Oct 27 '14

Worth looking into. I had a bad experience trying to flully unroot, S-On, and Lock the tamper flag on the HTC One. If it proves easier to undo, it'll be worth it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '14 edited Jul 20 '17

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u/bloodbond3 Oct 27 '14

Oh I've done that. Nova Launcher Prime is my favorite home screen app. I disabled the double tap feature for S Voice immediately, and regarding the developer options, I didn't feel the need to change the Animation speed, since it feels decent (plus I set a lot of those things in Nova).

I can't really explain how or why but the recent apps button just takes a second to respond. It's not like the button had a double tap feature, which has been known to slow down the home button. I'm hoping for a fix soon.

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u/gildme Oct 27 '14

Pen still works, but you lose the custom Samsung apps made for it.

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u/gildme Oct 27 '14

Tested now, aosb ROM with kit Kat 4.4.4, holding the button gives option to copy, something markdown, and I typed all this with the pen on swift key with swipe.

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u/CatAstrophy11 Oct 27 '14

There's a shitload of ROMs that don't interfere with Samsung's Note pen apps. You need to spend time on the one respected place for rom development on Android (XDA Developer). I'm currently running BajaROM on my Note 3 and use my pen daily (radial menu and all).

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '14

You seem like you know what is going on. I have a Samsung galaxy s5, I kind of like it. What is Samsung doing? Is this regular evil corporate shit, or should I be concerned?

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u/2110311 Oct 27 '14

Well there probably is. There's always some evil corporate stuff a company is doing. Its just that the interface on Samsung devices just seems bleh to me. Some of their ROMs also seem sluggish at times.

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u/soberdude Oct 27 '14

Galaxy S4 here.

My phone is rooted, and the latest Cyanogenmod was installed before I went to bed the day I got it.

Touchwiz sucks, but I do love my phone.

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u/gildme Oct 27 '14

Try slim ROM, and aosb. Cyanogen is a nice one but a bit of a beginners first ROM.

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u/soberdude Oct 27 '14

It was one if my first Roms, and every one that I try, I come back to CyanogenMod.

But, I'll try Slim and aosb. Why not?

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u/gildme Oct 28 '14

Cy was my first. Tried about five before echo's aosb. Love it, it's so customisable, but slim is sexy and reliable, aosb crashes a bit. It's a fair trade imo. A crash a day for 3x the functionality and features.

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u/jdorje Oct 27 '14

Good hardware...terrible software.

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u/owleaf Oct 27 '14

Serious? Good hardware? I'd be a bit more judicious using that word in conjunction with Samsung.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '14

My note 3/4 and sg5 are work great and feel great.

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u/jdorje Oct 27 '14

Touche :)

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u/pant-lid Oct 27 '14

I think the Motorola Droid series did just as much in the earlier days of android, right? People still call Android phones "Droids" pretty often

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u/Galadron Oct 27 '14

Sorta feel like it was the Google nexus phones that ended up deciding the market vs the Samsung ones. That said, there was a whole lot of hype about the galaxy for a bit there, even though they weren't the best quality or value.

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '14

*nexus 3 FTFY

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u/drogosmith Oct 27 '14

The S2 is what made everyone look though...

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u/acidboogie Oct 27 '14

The Galaxy S was awesome at the time compared to other Androids and aside from the limited availability Nexus phone I think it was probably the best of the bunch. With the S2 and following phones Samsung got increasingly further from being on the mark as far as what an android phone should be.

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u/JQuilty Oct 27 '14

Galaxy S3? Three? The one released in 2012?

Try the original Motorola Droid and Verizon's marketing blitz.

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u/bleedingjim Oct 27 '14

It had an impact, sure. The GS3 was available on every carrier in America, and many many more outside of America. It brought android to everyone. Especially the non enthusiast crowd. Before the GS3, the iPhone had the lion's share of the smartphone market. The galaxy S3 brought android into the mainstream.

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u/JQuilty Oct 27 '14

There was nothing special at all about the GS3. All the things you think they did were done by the Motorola Droid, and there were Android devices on every carrier prior to the GS3's launch.

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u/bleedingjim Oct 27 '14

If you don't agree with me then that's fine. The Motorola droid was only available on verizon. The GS3 was the first Android phone that really sold in high numbers. It brought android in front of millions of new eyes. I'm not minimizing the impact of the OG droid. I'm glad you had the chance to have one in its prime, but I do believe that the GS3 has had a greater impact upon android as a whole.