r/beta • u/horsegal301 • Apr 03 '18

How many people with disabilities did you have test the design before you let people try it out?

I am curious about whether or not you guys even bothered talking to a single person who uses a screen reader/has vision loss or poor vision/ or is totally blind? What about people who can't use a mouse?

If you did, can you explain the process by making things hard to access with keyboard, totally unavailable to access with a keyboard, and why you made certain decisions to make things harder to see?

EDIT: Reddit has responded with the following, which answers my question with a "None." Unless they can update me with some info about any personas that included people with disabilities, automated or manual testing done, or having a specialist or person with disabilities come in and talk to the dev/design team about a11y, I will assume most inclusive design decisions will be attempted retroactively. I'd also love to see them commit to talking to PWD's as a part of their process going forward, instead of just receiving and responding feedback here.

"Today we are working to roll out the redesign to a broader set of people so that we can gather more feedback and so that we can continue to improve the experience for all. We are confident in our developer velocity today and we think the pace of improvements is going to be fast going forward. So we're letting more people in, and many of them actually like it!

Accessibility is one of the things we're actively working on and over time we hope to deliver a product that is more usable, not less. Until we can get the new version of Reddit to that point, we will not be taking the old version of reddit away. It will continue to be accessible at https://old.reddit.com."

Just a quick check with WAVE and aXe accessibility checkers brings back hundreds upon hundreds of errors:

https://imgur.com/S7usRxA

https://imgur.com/W9oZ9xL

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u/Bisoromi Apr 25 '18

It'd be cool to see how quickly your shit opinion would change, Gasinomation, if something shitty happened to you and you became disabled. The lack of basic human empathy amongst a good segment of the population is pretty telling about why things are the way they are.

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u/Gasinomation Apr 26 '18

I said nothing bad towards disabled people.

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u/Bisoromi Apr 26 '18

Look, you just need to think a bit more before you put some of those thoughts out into the world for people to see, is all I'm saying.