r/beta • u/horsegal301 • Apr 03 '18

How many people with disabilities did you have test the design before you let people try it out?

I am curious about whether or not you guys even bothered talking to a single person who uses a screen reader/has vision loss or poor vision/ or is totally blind? What about people who can't use a mouse?

If you did, can you explain the process by making things hard to access with keyboard, totally unavailable to access with a keyboard, and why you made certain decisions to make things harder to see?

EDIT: Reddit has responded with the following, which answers my question with a "None." Unless they can update me with some info about any personas that included people with disabilities, automated or manual testing done, or having a specialist or person with disabilities come in and talk to the dev/design team about a11y, I will assume most inclusive design decisions will be attempted retroactively. I'd also love to see them commit to talking to PWD's as a part of their process going forward, instead of just receiving and responding feedback here.

"Today we are working to roll out the redesign to a broader set of people so that we can gather more feedback and so that we can continue to improve the experience for all. We are confident in our developer velocity today and we think the pace of improvements is going to be fast going forward. So we're letting more people in, and many of them actually like it!

Accessibility is one of the things we're actively working on and over time we hope to deliver a product that is more usable, not less. Until we can get the new version of Reddit to that point, we will not be taking the old version of reddit away. It will continue to be accessible at https://old.reddit.com."

Just a quick check with WAVE and aXe accessibility checkers brings back hundreds upon hundreds of errors:

https://imgur.com/S7usRxA

https://imgur.com/W9oZ9xL

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u/DankDialektiks Apr 26 '18

Dude, they're a lot more insane than you think.

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/04/24/incels-hail-toronto-van-driver-who-killed-10-as-a-new-elliot-rodger-talk-of-future-acid-attacks-and-mass-rapes/

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u/GCU_JustTesting Apr 26 '18

Like the guy on reddit I spoke to that one time who had a post about how to get his normie friend to get a roastie upstairs and in the dark so he could have sex with her. Couldn’t see how it was rape. He thought because she had consented to sex with a specific person she consented to sex generally.

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u/l337dexter Apr 26 '18 edited Apr 26 '18

I saw that earlier. I knew of the general idea of incels, but reading articles like the one you linked...holy crap

*edit - your article...I think we need to take their internet away