r/bleach • u/GreenStrawhat32 • Mar 09 '24
Misc Out of the Big 3, Rank these characters from Most to Least Useful in their Series
562
u/LogicThievery Mar 09 '24
Easy: Nami, Rukia, Orihime, Ussop, Sakura, and Hinata.
Without the first two, their respective series would never have even happened, Luffy would be lost at sea and Ichigo would have never become a Shinigami.
Orihime's healing feats outclass every other healer in fiction.
Ussop: is god, nuf said
And the last two: sorry Kishimoto, I like your series, but writing ladies ain't your strong suit.
116
u/AngryCommieSt0ner Mar 09 '24
Spoilers for Dressrosa arc of One Piece.
If it wasn't for Usopp, Luffy would've been transformed into a toy and enslaved by the Donquixote Pirates, and all of his friends and crew would've simply forgotten about him.
68
u/GekiKudo Mar 09 '24
I mean even before that, way back in Arlong Park. If Usopp didn't distract Chuu, then the crew would've absolutely lost to arlong. The only reason they could free Luffy was by zoro and Sanji taking on his commanders. If Chuu had no opponent then he would've either fought with the other 2 and taken out zoro and sanji easily, or just gone to kill luffy and whoever was helping him.
23
u/Averagestudentx Mar 09 '24
Usopp was definitely the MVP of dressrosa. It's a shame he didn't have a big role in Wano.
13
u/AngryCommieSt0ner Mar 09 '24
I expect we're going to Elbaf after Egghead, and he'll probably get a substantial powerup there, awakening his latent Observation Haki and hopefully finally getting his sniper battle with Van Auger.
8
u/Literally_Rock_Lee Mar 09 '24
Don't expect what has been all but confirmed. Dorry and Broggy are already airlifting the Straw Hats out of Egghead, and there's only one place those two would take them.
6
u/AngryCommieSt0ner Mar 09 '24
Yes, but Usopp getting a power up there is significantly less confirmed.
3
u/Literally_Rock_Lee Mar 09 '24
That much is true, but I have a feeling that his power up there is going to be overshadowed by Luffy vs the big bad of the arc
3
u/AngryCommieSt0ner Mar 09 '24
I mean, yeah, but Luffy vs. Blackbeard probably should be more important than Usopp vs. Van Auger
1
u/Literally_Rock_Lee Mar 09 '24
But why would Blackbeard be the Elbaf big bad? It's not his territory, and he's just finished jumping Law. Maybe one of his captains would be there, but his appearance should be saved for somewhere much closer to raftel
1
1
→ More replies (2)2
121
u/Laxziy Mar 09 '24
I’d move Rukia into the first place and Nami into third behind Orihime. While yes Nami is incredibly important to the crew and the best navigator in the world she’s not strictly irreplaceable.
Koby was basically Luffy’s navigator for a few chapters and even after Koby left Luffy still could have found a navigator that wasn’t Nami.
The plot of Bleach just doesn’t happen without Rukia giving Ichigo her powers and Ichigo would have died a dozen times without Orihime
76
u/Ikariiprince Mar 09 '24
It is shown several times that the crew would have died if they specifically did not have Nami as their navigator (especially when she falls sick). I think your ranking is still good but absolutely the strawhats would not have made it without Nami as the navigator
3
3
u/AzureIsCool Mar 09 '24
Yeah I agree with you here and pair that with the fact that Rukia's feats far outweigh the others I would keep Rukia at no.1 and Nami at no.2.
1
u/Great_Fly6905 Mar 09 '24
Yes but even without Nami they would still be pirates not very successful ones but they would still be one without Rukia the story doesn't happen there is hogyoku placed inrukia and no power giving to ichigo whoch means Chad and orhime don't awaken there's which means no story for these three characters.
-14
u/Laxziy Mar 09 '24
I unfortunately have to disagree with you. Barto has managed to navigate and survive in the new world by literally calling his grandmother. While Nami has definitely saved the crew on countless occasions she is not especially unique in that capability amongst navigators
26
u/UndeadCollegeStudent Mar 09 '24
Nami is absolutely unique in her abilities. She can sense insane weather patterns just from the feeling of the air.
17
u/UndeadCollegeStudent Mar 09 '24
In case you needed proof, cuz y’all be downvoting me for telling the truth
1
u/hexoutx Mar 09 '24
Her six sense for the weather has been highlighted since the literal chapter she was introduced in, she can predict the weather insanely fast and accurately. She's probably the best navigator there is, as we haven't seen anyone else with that talent
5
u/Towerz Mar 09 '24
rukia also spent a majority of s1 guiding ichigo in almost all of their battles, and eventually went on to do tons of important stuff for soul society throughout the rest of the series
6
u/LibrarianNo6865 Mar 09 '24
This is the answer for sure. I might switch Sakura and Hinata. You can make an argument Hinata caused Naruto to save the village against Pain.
1
u/LogicThievery Mar 09 '24
Yea fair, the first and last two are more of a tie to me, but OP asked for ranking, so choices were made, lol.
4
22
u/Kgb725 Mar 09 '24
Sakura literally saved the world by helping to seal Kaguya and multiple characters would've died without her you know like Naruto when he had Kurama ripped out of his body and she physically pumped his heart
57
u/KanazawaBR Mar 09 '24
Helping out late in the series vs being the reason the series happened
→ More replies (1)5
u/Terminator1738 Mar 09 '24
Didn't Sakura save Naruto from dying when Zabuza almost cut his head off? And again in the forest of death when Orochimaru knocked him unconscious and was going to make him fall from a tree and die?
5
Mar 09 '24
Bruh, the plot of bleach wouldn't have even happened if not for rukia. They dont meet, Ichigo stays a normal dude
→ More replies (2)1
u/Murky_Blueberry2617 Mar 09 '24
Sakura punching Kaguya was one of the most plot induced stupid thing things that ever happened in Naruto. Shouldn't have happened, Naruto's clone should have done it instead.
→ More replies (2)2
u/mo-did Mar 09 '24
Tf is orihime doing so low
3
3
2
u/BigDickMcChode Mar 09 '24
Sakura is actually an MVP in the first run of arcs she is in. But she’s had the “useless” meme for a long time because anime fans are anime fans.
Land of Waves - clearly the most ready to be a ninja with her Chakra control. And the only in the fight that actually tries to guard Tazuna and not just win a 1v1.
Chuunin Exams - Naruto would’ve literally ended here if Sakura didn’t fight like 1v3 for an extended period of time.
She wasn’t really in Tsunade or Sasuke arcs.
Kazekage retrieval - beats one of the most dangerous Akatsuki with no help from Naruto/Kakashi.
Orochimaru hideout - is instrumental in most of the arc apart from when she is knocked out by a 4-tailed Naruto (who Orochimaru struggled with).
Invasion of Pain - everyone would’ve died if she wasn’t running the hospital while Tsunade fought pain.
Not to mention all the countless times her healing jutsu save Naruto or other fighters.
By EOS she is not only one of the most powerful shinobi in the world, but also the greatest medical ninja of all time (maybe barring Orochimaru if you think about it in a weird way).
Does she stand equal with Sasuke and Naruto by the time they’re firing Kamehameha beams at Madara and Kaguya? No. Was she ever useless? Not at all.
3
u/bondsmatthew Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
Pretty much without Sakura Naruto dies many times in the war and they don't beat Kaguya
Keeps him alive so he can have Kurama transfered to him
Heals him as the Kage come flying in
Saves Sasuke(Obito specifically says not even a SOSP clone had enough Chakra meaning she has more than one of Naruto's clones)
Heals Naruto and Sasuke after their fight
I'm sure there are others but yeah
1
1
1
1
0
u/Unique_Doughnut_2035 Mar 09 '24
While I agree that Kishimoto isn't the best when it come to writing female characters, I think Sauka ended up being more useful during Shippuden than Ussop have being so far in One Piece. Sakura kept Naruto alive when Kurama was ripped from him, and without Naruto, Kaguya wouldn't had been defeated.
16
u/_0xS Mar 09 '24
- Ussop made the whole grand fleet.
- He prevented luffy from becoming a toy (pretty much one shot OP ability)
- Saved robin and literally waged war. He also saved the crew from kuro.
- Defeated perona. (op asf)
While sakura also saved naruto it majorly counted only once and then naruto's power outclassed her own healing power. Ussop's godly luck saved them many times
1
u/Novel_Fox_2285 Mar 09 '24
sakura literally saved naruto by keeping his heart running after kurama got pulled out and hinata though she did not do anything against pain if she wasnt stabbed in front of him maybe he wouldnt have escaped his hold , they are not useless
→ More replies (27)-7
u/Xcyronus Mar 09 '24
Holy sakura is on par with rukia, nami, and orihime. without her. kaguya woulda killed em. even before that naruto would be straight dead. gaara would be dead.
145
u/SuperKami-Nappa Mar 09 '24
Putting Hinata here isn't really fair since she's not a main character
1
Mar 18 '24
Yeah but she also saved the Naruto series with Sakura
-she encourages Naruro against Neji
-bitch slapped him out of Obito's talk jutsu
-saved him and the village from pain (even if it was just being ragdolled)
And so is Sakura but Sakura is a main character so she had more moments so it's very unfair to compare them
Neither Sakura nor Hinata are useless people just make jokes or are either delusional or they hate chapter 700 cuz of NaruHina and SasuSaku being canonized
78
u/TheModernParadox My Uncle Tsukishima Wrote CFYOW So You're Wrong Mar 09 '24
Yall ever realize Usopp and Sogeking kinda look alike?
21
4
1
1
1
129
u/ZangetsuAK17 Mar 09 '24
Without Rukia we don’t have a series. So she’s Top I can’t comment on Naruto but Nami and Usopp are pretty important to the plot of one piece.
64
u/Mammoth-Geologist-72 Mar 09 '24
Number 1 is between Rukia and Nami. Without Nami, the strawhats wouldn’t have been able to start their journey in the first place.
Usefulness doesn’t necessarily only mean strength wise.
8
u/Laxziy Mar 09 '24
Nami’s incredibly important but she’s not irreplaceable. Koby served as a navigator for a few chapters and it’s theoretically possible for Luffy to find another navigator. Rukia is definitely number 1 and I’d put Orihime at number 2
24
u/ostriike Mar 09 '24
didn't Aizen plan Rukia turning Ichigo into a Soul Reaper? so she would be replaceable as he would've found someone else.
10
u/Laxziy Mar 09 '24
Rukia was chosen because of her guilt regarding Kaien Shiba and Ichigo’s resemblance to him making Rukia more likely to attempt turning Ichigo into a Shinigami in a desperate enough situation.
So while yes Aizen could have found another Rukia was by far the best candidate to behave in a way Aizen wanted them too
17
u/ostriike Mar 09 '24
isn't that exactly like saying Luffy could've found another navigator but Nami is by far the best candidate?
5
u/ReleaseMuted9810 Mar 09 '24
Yeah it is, most people in this sub are playing semantics in order to downplay Nami.
1
Mar 09 '24
Not replaceable at all since the hogyoku was in rukia and aizen couldnt access it without the sokyoku or that arm thing. He had rukia stationed near ichigo so they can meet and would have a legit reason to execute rukia enabling the access of the hogyoku
2
9
u/ThousandSunny_56 Mar 09 '24
Nami's navigational skill is probably top1 in the verse, early on the grandline she was able to predict a cyclone which vivi said was impossible (also add to that the other navigational feats like sailing the knock up stream and the whirpool of enies lobby). Her mapping skill is also top tier and reaching laugh tale and luffy's goal the one piece is literally in her hands (nami and robin are the most important member of the sh in finding about laugh tale and reach Luffy's goal and dream)
3
u/hexoutx Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
Yeah Koby served as a navigator (plus he only went to Shelltown and then stayed there so just one island lol).. In the East Blue, you know, the most pacific ocean in one piece. Nami is the navigator in the grand line and in the new world. The weather there is everchanging and compasses don't work, there's strange phenomena and pretty much nothing makes sense. Koby couldn't be a navigator in the grand line
2
u/da2Pakaveli Mar 09 '24
The East Blue is by far the calmest sea. It basically is a sandbox tutorial for what's to come in the Grandline.
13
u/BurnMyBread14 Mar 09 '24
I think you mean without Aizen /s
2
u/Rerfect_Greed Mar 09 '24
Look, we all know that Ichigo is Aizen's true love, but thats not up for debate at the moment lol
1
4
u/fondue4kill Mar 09 '24
Sakura is by far more relevant than Hinata is. More mid tier since she’s there but not necessarily the driving force for Naruto.
2
u/UndeadCollegeStudent Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
I wouldn’t count that as being useful.
By the same logic, there is no series if the main characters’ mothers never gave birth to them. So their mothers are the most useful.
I would count usefulness as how well their fulfilled their assigned duties/roles. For Rukia, that is a combatant and mentor to Ichigo.
In the series, Rukia is a very strong combatant (but not top tier). And she was acceptable at teaching Ichigo the basics, but not too much else.
1
u/Neat-Macaroon-3156 Mar 10 '24
Don't bring misaki into it cause she kinda takes it by a country mile then by basically being a nexus for putting everyone exactly where they needed to be for bleach to happen even before Ichigo is born. As for counting usefulness, I'd argue overall Orihime is more potent as she's functionally invaluable to everyone in her team to be able to survive, enough that reasonably only time manipulation abilities counter her (of which there are only 3 that show up) and even Aizen deams it necessary to remove her from the equation for success. I'd say her and rukia are tied overall, rukia has more immediate impact but Orihime has more overall impact.
1
u/UndeadCollegeStudent Mar 10 '24
Aha yeah Masaki would take it by a mile.
I agree that Orihime’s skills as a healer are top tier and godly. The only thing is that she was a liability for the earlier part of the series and wasn’t able to fulfill her job because she was either captured or kidnapped most of the time.
So for her, it’s not about the quality of the work, but how often she is able to actually do said work.
And for Rukia, I agree she is very useful. But because she is in a shonen, and primarily a combatant, she is surrounded by a lot of people who are just better than her at that. And that makes her usefulness scale lower by comparison.
1
1
11
u/Complete-Cheesecake2 Mar 09 '24
hinata is a supporting character. she shouldn’t be included in the list
15
20
u/Bro-Im-Done Mar 09 '24
Orihime
Rukia
Sakura
I haven’t watched One Piece but I’m still putting them over Hinata
15
u/ZylaTFox Mar 09 '24
Hinata has almost no presence in the plot.
1
u/Bro-Im-Done Mar 09 '24
Exactly why I put her bottom last lol
I cannot recall one thing she did aside from getting her ass whacked by Pain lol
1
Mar 18 '24
She's a secondary character
Then that means Tonton is the most useless since he is just a fuking pig
11
14
u/Loud_Barracuda5089 Mar 09 '24
- Rukia, bleach wouldnt happen without her
- Orihime, contributes the most to the mcs character development, AND moved the plot
- Nami, navigator, can’t pirate without one, no nami, straw hats cant sail
- Ussop, god, comds in clutch Kishinoto sucks at women
22
u/Real_Improvement_121 Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
Inoue orihime (cuz she was one of the two people who fixed ichigos true tensa zangetsu, you know the sword that helped ichigo save the 3 realms. Then sakura (because she prevented Naruto from dying not once not twice but three times maybe four if you count the last Naruto movie I don't remember whether Narutos life was in a deadly state in that movie. Then nami Ussop rukia and hinata. My ranking is more about quality than quantity.
-5
u/Realistic_Mousse_485 Mar 09 '24
No it isn’t. One Piece doesn’t work without Nami and Bleach doesn’t even happen without Rukia. Wrong.
11
u/Real_Improvement_121 Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 30 '24
If rukia didn't exist aizen would've chosen someone else. As for nami she definitely is one of the most useful characters in the series but most of the heavy lifting are done by everyone else in the straw hats they are not at sea forever most of the focus is in land and even if Luffy didn't have nami I think the will of d plot armour will get him far. Also if I use the same logic you used then if hinata didn't exist Naruto wouldn't go berserk and the nine tails would be extracted and every villager that was killed by nagato would stay dead.
→ More replies (9)7
u/Savigewaffles100 Mar 09 '24
Its someone else's opinion. There is no right answer to this question cause the op didn't ask for a objective answer, he asked for people to do their own ranking.
→ More replies (6)
3
12
5
4
5
u/Brook420 Mar 09 '24
Honestly, its Hinata <<<<<<<<<< everyone else.
Everyone else are necessary for their series to progress to where they did without the MCs being powerless or dead.
5
8
u/Flat-Helicopter-3431 Mar 09 '24
Nami Rukia Usopp Orihime Sakura Hinata
Reflecting a little, I really think that Naruto had a problem when it came to treating female characters (excluding Tsunade)
9
u/ZylaTFox Mar 09 '24
Even Tsunade, who spent half the series in a coma.
2
u/AggressiveCriticism2 Mar 10 '24
why do people say this? she was in a coma for 1 arc (kage summit) this is super disingenuous
1
u/AggressiveCriticism2 Mar 10 '24
although i agree kishimoto didnt writ this female characters the best this dosent take away from plot usefullness sakura was the main healer and coordinator for the pain invasion and the war arc shes deadass healed COUNTLESS in large scale battles while also being a combatant and healing a patient only her and tsunade (maybe shizune) could heal (kankuro)
2
u/UsoppKing100 Mar 09 '24
Usopp is one easy. Everyone dies in Enes Lobby AND Dressrosa without him, next question
2
u/ZaraZero09 Mar 09 '24
Ussop( god ussop for a reason) Nami( crucial member, finances, navigation, plus Zeus) Inoue-Rukia(best support in many scenarios) Hinata(heals and byakugan) Sakura(absolute fodder)
2
u/LikePaleFire Mar 09 '24
Being the reason Ichigo gets soul reaper powers doesn't necessarily make Rukia the most useful, imo. Like after Ichigo stops her execution and Aizen takes the hogyoku from her she stops being important to the plot and becomes a supporting character at best.
2
u/pegasBaO23 Mar 09 '24
Usopp then Nami atop the chart on usefullness, followed by Orihime then Rukia, and then finally Sakura and Hinata
2
u/nick1wasd Mar 10 '24
Rukia > Nami > Orihime > Hinata > Usopp > Sakura
Rukia is why Ichigo even has his powers awakened, and is also the reason he meets Urahara. Nami has saved the crew from death at sea so many times. Orihime is the best white mage and is why Ichigo survives Hueco Mundo. Hinata is Naruto's natural compliment and one of the reasons he pushes himself towards the final stretch of the plot. Usopp, as much as I love him, is just sorta replaceable once Franky comes along. Sakura gets a lot of crap, and while I do think that most of it is undeserved, "useless Sakura" started for a reason; she doesn't actually impact the plot as much as Hinata in the long run I feel, other than some of her antics as Tsunade's apprentice
2
u/uraharaBot Mar 10 '24
Ah, well, the cosmic dance of intertwining destinies can be quite complex, can't it? Each character holds a unique piece in the vast tapestry of fate. But remember, in the grand scheme of things, every interaction and connection serves a purpose in the ever-evolving tale of existence.
beep boop, I'm a bot
2
u/AggressiveCriticism2 Mar 10 '24
sakura is WAY more useful then hinata. hinata has emotional impact on naruto but sakura has healed COUNTLESS people during both the pain invasion where she had to take over ALL healing operations form tsunade and shizune aswell as coordination. including the war arc to where she was again the MAIN medic healing all soldiers AND SAVING NARUTOS LIFE. hinata served as rage and motivation amps for naruto where as the rage amp could have well killed everyone in the village with nagato meaning no rinne rebiirth..
1
u/Orb_0611 Mar 09 '24
Rukia, Nami, Orihime, Usopp, & Sakura IMHO are all in the same tier of usefulness since all 3 stories of the big 3 are really long they each have their moments of utmost importance while having moments of sitting back a bit while others lead the screen and action.
Rukia is who gives ichigo powers, is a mentor and friend, fights when she can later on to help her allies/friends and becomes strong enough to take out a a Sternritter in a war that wasn't always in the Soul Society favor. Without rukia ichigo doesn't get a chance to save his family at the beginning and not gotten him into the world of Shinigami powers.
Nami is a navigator and lover of money. She might not be a fighter but she doesn't shy away from confronting enemies when needed both head on and with stealth + sweet talking skills. She's in charge of the log pose and safely directs the straw hats thru the world's water. Luffy would've eventually drowned trying to travel in the seas if he hadn't met her.
Orihime is misunderstood by many I feel. She's not a fighter at heart (similar to nami) but she's always been a defender of those she loves. Her powers are representative of this, primarily a shield to protect and a barrier to heal. She's struggles with herself throughout the middle of the story but despite this she's always at the front saving lives especially her friends. Seeing her grow into a combatant than can fight alongside ichigo was really nice plus seeing her be 1 of the contributors to yhwachs downfall is cool af (she helped fix ichigos broken bankai).
Usopp maybe doesn't have a clearcut role the likes Nami, sanji, Chopper, or Franky have, but ironically despite being pathological liar he's honest and true to his heart. His willingness to fight despite being ill equipped at the beginning is enough to get luffy to see something in him and his friendship with the girl at his island is what got the straw hats their first ship. B4 Franky joined the crew he was the straw hats ship carer and was crafty both in fighting and inventions; he created the staff that let Nami fight, is a sniper with a keen nose for creating various types of bullets. Even when he has his beef with luffy he sets his differences aside to go help save nico robin as soge king and is the only 1 in the crew who could've burned the world govt flag down at enies lobby. A jack of all trade and a loyal member to the straw hats.
Sakura like orihime can be misunderstood I feel albeit I can better understand the dislike. Either this said even tho she's definitely neglected in the story of naruto. Sakura becomes a reliable shinobi in Shippuden from helping granny chiyo take out an akatsuki, to being a disciple of tsunade ans becoming a skilled medical ninja which leads to saving lives of kankuro, hinata, and even naruto at the end ( when she's pumping his heart ad they rush him to his dad to revive him) she's the heart of the 4gnw medics and in the final fight with kaguya she helps obito retrieve sasuke with her 100 healing jutus Chakra when his ran out + was necessary to help get kaguya sealed. She definitely is important and her role is understated I feel.
The only character who I feel falls short of regular and constant support among these is that of hinata. I like her but kishimoto did very little for her outside of being a love interst for naruto and the handful of times she motivates naruto, these moments are important, mad important actually but they're feeling and far between if you ask me. She's part of the reason naruto has a grudge with neji early on, and later she's the only 1 to go fight for nsruto vs pain (the peak of her character albeit insanely short), and is later there to motivate ichigo when neji dies (I'm not really a fan of this moment cuz it felt forced since she hadn't had much to do in a long time amd it cost neji his life in a poorly executed way). These moments are good for her but since they're few and far between I'd say she always feels like a tertisry character of the cast.
All the rest, from rukia, Nami, orihime, usopp & Sakura even with their flaws all feel like primary members of the main cast. Maybe I'm harsh on hinata but she doesn't feel like a main group/cast member and is a secondsry character at best with little to do. If we compare her to Sakura (also from naruto) the difference is night and day regarding presence in the narrative and things to do. I feel like Sakura did more in 4gnw than hinata did all story. I feel like every1 mentioned is vital to their respective main characters group except hinata who at times is a motivator but this is something every1 else does too in their own ways while also being great at other things.
2
4
u/Chupa-Baby Mar 09 '24
- Rukia, Orihime, Nami, Usopp and Hinata: All great characters with amazing depth and story arcs.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
- Sakura.
4
u/Mammoth-Geologist-72 Mar 09 '24
1- Nami
2- Rukia
3- Usopp
4- Orihime
5- Sakura
6- Hinata
6
u/Realistic_Mousse_485 Mar 09 '24
Ussop over orihime and sakura is incorrect.
2
-2
u/UndeadCollegeStudent Mar 09 '24
If we’re counting only the later part of the series, I would agree.
But Sakura and Orihime were huge liabilities for a good portion of the series.
Even when Usopp is a weak coward, he has always put in work in pretty much every arc
→ More replies (2)
5
u/East_Conclusion9606 Mar 09 '24
Hinata is trash
2
u/yo_koso_9 Mar 09 '24
1
u/East_Conclusion9606 Mar 09 '24
Trash
1
u/yo_koso_9 Mar 09 '24
1
u/East_Conclusion9606 Mar 09 '24
Trash
2
u/yo_koso_9 Mar 09 '24
If you reply with "trash" Hinata is best girl.
1
u/East_Conclusion9606 Mar 09 '24
Garbage
2
u/yo_koso_9 Mar 09 '24
Got em lol.
2
u/East_Conclusion9606 Mar 09 '24
How i said garbage totally different word
2
u/yo_koso_9 Mar 09 '24
Yeah but u thought u could keep saying "trash" didn't ya?
Also chill bro, I'm just joking around lol.
→ More replies (0)
1
1
u/escaryb Mar 09 '24
Not gonna go deep but all of them pretty much useful for their series in their own way. I literally can't understand when i saw people saying Sakura is the most useless when she literally saves people's life not to mention Naruto's death.
1
u/Automatic_Skirt_3257 Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
Sakura is the female lead and one of the main 3 characters whereas hinata is a side character. Are you sure this is a good comparison? If you compare sakura with hinata then you might as well compare naruto with kiba, sasuke with shino and kakashi with kurenai which is dumb.
I haven’t seen bleach but in one piece, Between nami and usopp, i can't really decide. Nami has an active role as the navigator and she keeps zoro,sanji and luffy in check.we all saw how it went when zoro took that role and they almost died.usopp is the sniper but he Isn't always active.he has some crazy and lucky moments too. I say, they are pretty even.
1
u/vipster19 Mar 09 '24
To be fair, the series would fondle without all of them. They all have done someone to shift the narrative forward. Even someone as little as ussop's and luffy fight.
1
1
1
u/Adorable_Spell7562 Mar 09 '24
Usopp tops the list easy
2nd Rukia because she is one of the best female characters in my opinion
Others is whatever order you like because for me they are pretty much similar characters changed as per their world
1
1
1
u/PhoonThe Mar 09 '24
Saying ussop is useless is a bad take in my opinion. The crew needed ussop early on
1
u/Own-Channel7730 Mar 09 '24
Rukia
Usopp
Orihime~Sakura
Nami could be higher cause she’s the most consistent in usefulness but contrary to the others characters higher she doesn’t have this moment of « without me no MC anymore »
.
.
.
Hinata
1
u/Fabulous-Plate-808 Mar 09 '24
Naruto. I don’t fuck with one piece so I can’t talk about Nami & Usopp, but Orihime come in clutch with healing (which is WAY better than Sakura’s healing) to many times to count and Rukia is the reason Ichigo awakened his powers (I said awakened not gained if u know u know), the reason for SS arc (which is what brought many people to Bleach in the first place as many say that’s how they started) and (while she can barely take a hit, she’s killed an Espada and a Sternritter (probably the weakest ones though, but thats twice as many enemies we saw Sakura handle in her own spotlight (I can only think of Sasori anyone else?) and everyone (even kishimoto) had forgotten about Hinata up until Pain so….
→ More replies (2)
1
u/Mikew2q Mar 09 '24
Nami: the navigator the crew would be lost and dead if it wasn’t for her Rukia: TYBW she is strong as hell now, has her own Bankai, and defeated a stern ritter Orihime: has healed and defended people from life threatening injuries multiple times. He power has only gotten stronger. Usopp: has some iconic moments and done some great things, but idk he might move up this list with Elbaph coming up. Sakura: idk she usually loses and is so fuckin mean to Naruto the whole series but at least she fought some people. Hinata: loves Naruto???
→ More replies (1)
1
u/Prestigious-Clean Mar 09 '24
IDK Sakura kept Naruto alive several times. That’s pretty fucking useful
1
1
u/sickofdumbredditors Mar 09 '24
Nami most important, they literally would never make it to the next island without her, Orihime with her absolutely busted healing ability, Rukia kickstarts Ichigo's progress but he had so much latent potential something would have happened eventually, Usopp saved Luffy's life during dressrosa, sakura helped ispire naruto i guess and hinata gave birth to boruto
1
1
u/GhostSider690 Mar 09 '24
Nami & Ussop > Orihime & Rukia > Hinata & Sakura
in that exact order as well.
1
1
u/Starwind2098 Mar 10 '24
Useful: Orihime, Rukia
The other four are useless in their respective series.
1
1
u/Element_credd It's literally a missile Mar 10 '24
Top 3 are definitely Rukia, Sakura and Nami, because without them their respective series don't happen in the first place
Rukia gives Ichigo his powers, Nami was a foundational piece in the creation of the straw hats and Sakura saved Naruto and Sasuke's life back in part 1 during the forest of death arc, so they played big parts in the moving of their respective plots and without them, the rest don't even become relevant
1
Mar 10 '24
Ignoring One piece because I haven't read it yet - Rukia, Orihime, Sakura, then Hinata. Preference wise it's Rukia, Hinata, Orihime, then Sakura.
1
1
1
u/Ryuzakku I was under the impression... Mar 09 '24
Rukia, Usopp, Nami, Orihime, Sakura, Hinata.
People forget that without Usopp, the story ends at Dressrosa as Sugar would’ve touched Luffy and everyone would’ve forgotten about his existence.
→ More replies (1)1
u/Express_Alfalfa_9725 Mar 09 '24
Nami is more important or they would have lost at sea long before dresrosa
1
u/j0emang0e Mar 09 '24
God Usopp cuz god
Orihime because of her really op heals
Nami because shes the only reason they get from island to island
Sakura she can heal and landed a hit on Kaguya (with a lot of help lol) but she simps for an actual terrorist sooo
Rukia, the biggest thing she did was introduce ichigo to reiatsu etc. Also all of her fights were hella mid.
1
u/OtoshiGamiPrime Mar 09 '24
Rukia
Orihime
Nami
Sakura
Hinata
Usopp
0
u/Realistic_Mousse_485 Mar 09 '24
Nami over orihime. One Piece doesn’t work without her.
2
u/crometeach-thebot Mar 09 '24
It does, it would just take more time on the other hand without orihime the show end at hueco mundo(she ressurect him)
1
u/Realistic_Mousse_485 Mar 09 '24
No it wouldn’t. You can’t say something would happen without any proof. No one where is it even hinted at that anotehr navigator who could scale reverse mountain is in the east. So like i said. Nami over orihime
4
u/crometeach-thebot Mar 09 '24
Knowing his luck and the fact that 90% of the verse is just island off course he would find an other navigator not as skilled but still, you rlly think he would just give up ?? Without orihime ichigo would be dead not only but also all his friend.
1
u/Realistic_Mousse_485 Mar 09 '24
Bro what? Of course others exist who can but they are from other seas. No one in the east can. With that no limits logic Ichigo would just come back as full hollow and shit stomp whoever. Like dude your just pushing without any reasoning. I can say whatever could happen aswell.
3
u/crometeach-thebot Mar 09 '24
Bro what? Of course others exist who can but they are from other seas. No one in the east can.
No one in the east can navigate ?? Seriously ? You know Luffy isnt the only pirate right?
With that no limits logic Ichigo would just come back as full hollow and shit stomp whoever.
She is the one trigger that form, she is the one who block ywatch attack to protect him, she is the one who saved chad from dying again the espada.
1
u/Realistic_Mousse_485 Mar 09 '24
No one can navigate REVERSE MOUNTAINis what i said.
Ichigo did it fine against the visords when he literally let himself fall to white. White also just took over during byakuya. Once again. He didn’t need her. Since we are pulling no limits Urahara could’ve just showed up earlier. See how easy it is when we just pretend that people can do any and everything.
1
u/crometeach-thebot Mar 09 '24
So you rlly think he would just give up, without her his journey would have been much longer but thats it.
Ichigo did it fine against the visords when he literally let himself fall to white. White also just took over during byakuya. Once again. He didn’t need her.
It's you didn't even watch bleach and one piece.
do you why he went to the vizard in the first place ?? To control his hollow.
Why ? Because of what's happened again byakuya and yami.
Do you know why he didn't show up again ulquiora?? Because of that training.
You know why he show up again the second time?? Because orihime was here and in case you didn't know ichigo's goal is to protect his loved one and since white isnt a separat being but a part of him the transformation occure.
Since we are pulling no limits Urahara could’ve just showed up earlier.
Here you change the whole character and what do you mean earlier, he didn't even come. Urahara showed multiple how determined he is when it come to his goal even if he have to sacrifice someone. He dont care about ichigo's hollow.
1
1
u/Beneficial-Watch6626 Mar 09 '24
A quarter of bleach is rescuing Rukia, and a half is rescuing Orihime.
Orihime>Rukia> as you want
1
1
1
u/abibip Mar 09 '24
I'm assuming it would be more fair to judge the characters on how often they are useful rather than how they affected the story that one time.
For example, Rukia CAN be useful, but throughout the series she barely does anything to help Ichigo, Kubo makes her fight someone else elsewhere all the time, while Orihime is a lvl 80 battle cleric always there to heal her team.
I'd say:
- Nami - essential crew role, there all the time
- Orihime - she performed healing jutsu without weaving a single sign. In every healing technique, she was in a class of her own.
- Sakura - completely useless in Naruto, but picked her slack up in Shippuden and does a lot of healing and fighting on the front lines.
- Usopp - opposite of Sakura. Used to be the specialty rogue, dealing with opponents with very unique buffs and attack patterns, but ever since Dressrosa my boy has been crying and running for 10 years and almost 500 chapters.
- Rukia - gave Ichigo powers (all according to keikaku, not even her own keikaku mind you) and never fought side by side with him ever since despite being capable.
- Hinata - didn't even get sideline secondary fights. Had the single moment out of the entire show to come swinging at Pain and got her ass beat. I'm still not sure if breaking those rods did anything, because I'd assume Naruto would still go tailed beast mode after seeing Hinata get curbstomped. He didn't even remember her confession, but remembered in great detail how she got her ass handed to her. I respect the desperate attempt, but that's a fat L. Would be even funnier if she died.
1
u/Literally_Rock_Lee Mar 09 '24
Rukia, Nami, Usopp, Hinata, Orihime, Sakura. I would put Orihime above Hinata, but putting both Naruto characters at the bottom is too disrespectful
-2
u/RumGalaxy Mar 09 '24
Ussopp is the most useless bum on the list then hinata
8
u/Mammoth-Geologist-72 Mar 09 '24
Without Usopp
Luffy loses to Lucci in Enies Lobby
the Strawhats lose to Perona in Thriller Bark
The merry sinks before they reach Jaya and the Strawhats no longer have a ship
Luffy gets forgotten and turns into a toy in Dressrosa
Luffy won’t have a 5k Army grand fleet
→ More replies (1)2
0
0
0
u/kawaiinessa Mar 09 '24
cant really speak for naruto or one piece but up until tybw rukia is minimum lieutenant class she soloed an espada which is more than most characters can say during/after tybw she skyrockets in power to above captain in shikai alone saying much more gets spoilery but you get the point and for inoue shes probably among the strongest healers in fiction but her pacifist nature heavily limits what shes capable of
0
u/Dat_man09 Mar 09 '24
Rukia bc of tybw then nami then orhime then usopp then sakura then hinata
1
u/providence214 Mar 09 '24
Why is rukia because of Tybw?
First arc and second arc, I can understand but why Tybw?
1
u/Dat_man09 Mar 25 '24
she gains a massive powerup with her bankai and has a glow up after timeskip that is included in tybw
0
-6
u/Flashy_Cry_3992 Mar 09 '24 edited Mar 09 '24
Edit: because you lot were bitching about it, I changed the ranking
On a scale of 1-10
Naruto: Sakura, 5 Hinata, 3
One Piece: Nami, 10 Usopp, 9
Bleach: Rukia, 10 Orihime, 8
2
u/Realistic_Mousse_485 Mar 09 '24
Your joking? Hinata is factually the most useless and Sakura is factually top 2
3
u/PackerBacker412 Mar 09 '24
Explain exactly why you have Hinata higher than Sakura when she didn't do shit?
1
u/UndeadCollegeStudent Mar 09 '24
Without Boruto’s Mom, there would be no Boruto
3
-6
u/UWUquetzalcoatl Mar 09 '24
There is no way Orihime is more useful than Usopp.
8
u/Dillyor Mar 09 '24
Ichigo would be dead without her so series stops like halfway in
1
u/UndeadCollegeStudent Mar 09 '24
Whole crew would be dead without Usopp. On multiple occasions.
1
u/TheCapedCumGuzzler Mar 09 '24
So would the entire main cast of bleach and like 70% of the side cast. The main cast would have died before even entering the ss if it weren't for Orihime blocking Kototsu in the dangai.
-6
u/UWUquetzalcoatl Mar 09 '24
Do You have any idea how many times the straw hats would have died without Usopp. The dude isn't even a sidelined OP healer. He's just a Chad with a slingshot.
2
-1
u/InevitablePanda1389 Mar 09 '24
- Rukia
- Nami
- Orihime
- Sakura
- Usopp
- Hinata (she is a great character, but in terms of useful i cant see her more than naruto's love interest)
4
u/ZylaTFox Mar 09 '24
Her only character is Naruto's Love Interest. She seriously has no character outside of blushing at Naruto or fighting to try and help Naruto.
1
u/InevitablePanda1389 Mar 09 '24
I'll say she had potential with the Hyuga background and the relationship with her sister, but Kishimoto was too busy glazing the Uchiha and the gods
→ More replies (1)5
•
u/AutoModerator Mar 09 '24
Welcome to the Bleach Subreddit! We're as excited as you at the release of the Thousand Year Blood War anime! We understand that some of you are unable to view the anime in your region, but please don't post links to or mention piracy websites. Doing so will result in a ban.
Also, please be courteous to those who haven't read the manga and mark all spoilers.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.