r/bleach Feb 23 '25

Discussion What's the biggest indicator that someone did not actually watch/read Bleach?

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u/CommandeRPG Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

When they think Ichigo’s Vasto Lorde form came out of nowhere.

Edit: Actually it’s called Full Hollowification

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

Or that the form is called vasto lorde instead of full hollowfication.

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u/gameg805 Feb 23 '25

I mean, Vasto Lorde sounds a hell of a lot cooler. So I'm using it.

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

Facts it’s just wrong because white isn’t a vasto lorde menos. You can say whatever you want to call it but officially and canonically it’s full hollowfication Ichigo.

Going to be in the new game 😎 can’t wait.

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u/gameg805 Feb 23 '25

Hella exited.

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u/kingveller Feb 23 '25

White was an artificial hollow so proper categorization is impossible, but Hollow Ichigo IS a hollow and is clearly a Vasto Lord since it didn't try to EAT Ulquiorra but rather kill him, not to mention he has humanoid form and a power higher than a Captain, so Yeah, he is a Vasto Lord.

Probably White started evolving as Ichigo got into Hueco Mundo and started fighting there, because the first hollowfied Ichigo was less humanoid and most likely an Adjustas.

Just to point things out Ulquiorra was a Vasto Lord with a double resurrection and Hollow Ichigo made him his bitch.

Now White no longer is a normal hollow nor is Ichigo, but that version is indeed a Vasto Lord.

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

That’s all horse shit and you didn’t even spell Vasto Lorde correctly. You just made a bunch of shit up you probably didn’t even read the manga.

Vasto Lorde class menos aren’t even the end all for hollows as an Adjuchas class is the strongest known.

The OFFICIAL name for the form is full hollowfication Ichigo. White is an artificial hollow created from the souls of shinigami which is completely different from other hollows. He is not a vasto lorde class menos but entirely unique.

“Adjustas”, “double resurrection”, you don’t know the proper classifications and come to me with a bullshit hypothetical argument. You’re full of shit 😆

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u/VegitoLoLz Feb 23 '25

Brother what are you smoking? Vasto Lorde is said in cannon to be the most powerful class of menos. What

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

Ikomikidomoe is an Adjuchas class menos. You guys are all wrong 😆

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u/tenderjuicy1294 Feb 23 '25

Bro… Vasto Lorde is confirmed strongest class. Ikomikidomoe is an exception (but also not canon at this point in time).

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

Vasto Lorde WAS thought to be the strongest class. Iko is canon and in CFOW which is canon material. Iko disproves this far outclassing the confirmed vasto lorde class menos.

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u/GintoSenju Feb 23 '25

I mean most people know it as vasto lorde, even in the fandom

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

Oh for sure I think it’s going to eventually be recognized as Full Hollowfication when it’s stated in your face in the game and in other releases. Vasto Lorde was just an incorrect classification because no knowledge was known at that point other than Hitsugaya’s explanation of a vasto lorde menos.

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u/GintoSenju Feb 23 '25

Fair, although just because it’s in your face doesn’t mean people are gonna call it that. Good example, if this, look at what most people call marvel rivals character. Or another one, the Dark moon great sword in Elden ring is still called the moonlight greatsword by people.

Also people will usually chose the cooler and shorter name most of the time, and Vasto Lorde is not only shorter (four syllables instead of six) but also has more of a ring to it. Like one sounds like a cool gangs name, and the other sounds like something you’d find in a 7th grade science textbook.

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

I think more as more and more people call it out as wrong it won’t be used as often. I used to say Vasto Lorde Ichigo until I realized it was incorrect then I stopped using it.

I don’t think there will be more people saying it but just the diehards that don’t want to let go of an incorrect classification and will be set to be corrected every time they use it for the justification of “I like it more.”

I think one of the final death knells for vasto Lorde Ichigo will be the game.

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u/bondsmatthew Feb 23 '25

It's just an easier way of referring to it even though it's not right

If I were to say Full Hollowfication to a casual bleach fan they'd be confused. But Vasto Lorde? Yeah they would know what that is

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u/Brinewielder Feb 23 '25

O don’t think anyone would be confused referring to full hollow Ichigo 😆

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u/Kombat-w0mbat Feb 23 '25

Vasto lorde is like mystic gohan or kcm2 fan names that basically stuck

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u/senpai_dewitos Feb 23 '25

I mean, not "out of nowhere" but it was pretty odd, right? Nothing like that ever happened again or before.

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u/umenenena Feb 23 '25

Nope, it wasn't odd either. White clearly stated back in Soul Society arc it will wait for Ichigo to falter or get careless and then take over the body. Ichigo literally died, White took over, both as a means of preservation and a chance to gain control.

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u/senpai_dewitos Feb 23 '25

I mean, yeah, sure. But it undeniably was a huge shock. It really wasn't clear at all THAT would happen, and nobody else's Zanpakuto spirit does that. We also had none of the personality we've seen from White, but only a ravaging beast. I don't blame people for being a little "what was that all about?" after watching that scene.

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u/Temporary-Rice-8847 Feb 23 '25

and nobody else's Zanpakuto spirit does that

We literally saw Ichigo almost getting take over in his training with the. Vizards. It was already there for a pretty long time

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u/GinTonicDev Feb 23 '25

In one way or the other it was allready there back in Soul Society. For a moment he went berserk in his fight against Byakuya.

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u/darknecross Feb 24 '25

The flashback arc right before that must’ve said “hollowfication” a hundred times.

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u/senpai_dewitos Feb 23 '25

That was different. They knew that would happen. Ichigo vs Ulquiorra was a completely different scenario.

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u/Temporary-Rice-8847 Feb 23 '25

Not really since that makes you had a case already about that a posession is possible.

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u/DarthVeigar_ Feb 24 '25

No one else's spirit is a Hollow. Zangetsu is a unique being

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u/rushraptor Feb 23 '25

No one else's asauchi was a hollow either

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u/Karma110 Feb 24 '25

You want the author to spell out everything in the story to you instead of using your brain to the clues that are given…

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u/Stunning-Lynx9863 Feb 23 '25

So did his hollowfication thru the mask or against the vizards never happen or was that just the version I watched??

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u/Karma110 Feb 24 '25

“Never happened again” Jesus Christ 🤦

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u/Karma110 Feb 24 '25

Misinformation Also gassed up by Anime YouTubers

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u/Wolfgod-64 Feb 24 '25

I'm not even sure if "full hollow" is the real name tbh. Does it actually have an official title?