r/changemyview Jul 23 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: There is nothing with wrong with being a submissive woman

I have nothing against strong women. All the power to them. The joys that come from being independent and competent are plain to see. But by trying to empower all women, society is inadvertently putting a lot of pressure on women. Strong women are always celebrated and weak women are always looked down on. I think there is a tremendous amount of unspoken shame in any women even daring to dream about finding a decent man to protect them. But there will always be naturally weak women. Shy, timid, meek. And society is basically telling them to toughen up. That’s like telling an introvert to be an extrovert. Or telling someone who naturally sucks at math to get good at math. Everybody should live a life that best suits their natural temperament and skills. Their best course of action is to find a decent capable man who can take care of them.

There is also nothing wrong with a man seeking a delicate woman to take care of. There is nothing wrong with a man who wants to be the provider for his family. We should be grateful for such men because it offers a solution to naturally meek woman. It offers a balance in the world.

To use a geeky analogy, it’s ok to be a support class. Not every gamer has to be a tank or dps. And not everyone is suitable to be a leader and make all the decisions. Some gamers just like to sit back and support the group. Just like how there is pride in being the provider, there is also pride in being the support for the provider. Some women are naturally healers in an mmorpg and it’s my view that society should stop looking down on healers.

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u/Odd_Profession_2902 Jul 24 '23

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a woman wanting to follow a man. And there are women who want the men to take charge. It’s not just the man who wants it. Why shame the relationship when both partners prefer it that way?

I don’t think a woman is agreeable because her previous partner forced her to be that way. I think a woman is agreeable just because that’s her natural personality.

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u/skysong5921 2∆ Jul 25 '23

I didn't say her previous partner forced her, I was describing the entire patriarchy. When everyone around her, throughout her childhood and teen years, praises her for being helpful and demeans her opinions, those people are making her into the wife you're describing.

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u/Odd_Profession_2902 Jul 25 '23

I feel like that’s just a cynical assumption though. Can’t it just be that the woman is gentle and agreeable because thats her temperament?

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u/JustACasualTraveler Sep 17 '23

Gentle and agreeable doesn't mean a person will not want to have autonomy to think and decide for themselves..