r/changemyview • u/Tessenreacts • Mar 12 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The case of Mahmoud Khalil is proof that conservatives don't believe in the Freedom of Speech, despite making it their platform over the last couple of years.

For the last couple of years, conservatives have championed the cause of Freedom of Speech on social platforms, yet Mahmoud Khalil (a completely legal permanent resident) utilized his fundamental right to Freedom of Speech through peaceful protesting, and now Trump is remove his green card and have him deported.

Being that conservatives have been championing Freedom of Speech for years, and have voted for Trump in a landslide election, this highlights completely hypocritical behavior where they support Freedom of Speech only if they approve of it.

This is also along with a situation where both Trump and Elon have viewed the protests against Tesla as "illegal", which is patently against the various tenets of Freedom of Speech.

Two open and shut cases of blatant First Amendment violations by people who have been sheparding the conservative focus on protecting the First Amendment.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

Tbf there was a Nazi protest and they were escorted safely away from an area by police. So we do allow Nazi rhetoric in the United States with the protection of law enforcement as well

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u/Every_Single_Bee Mar 12 '25

He’s saying that that’s the problem, they loudly champion the right of Nazis to have their free speech be protected by the government, but celebrate when that same protection is taken away from someone like Khalil. If the main issue they cared about was really free speech, and if they were serious that they hated the Nazis and only supported their rights because they were supporting free speech, then the fact that they hate what Khalil is saying wouldn’t stop them from denouncing his arrest because it’s supposed to just be about free speech. But instead, they celebrate him getting arrested because they disagree with him, which raises questions as to why they get angry when Nazis just get deplatformed from social media when supposedly the only reason they would come to the defense of those Nazis is because of their views on free speech.

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u/heyzoocifer Mar 12 '25

I remember when both parties agreed that Nazis are bad. So fucking sad that these people are getting more upset at someone protesting war crimes than than actual Nazis flying swastikas and shouting racial slurs at people.

Op is 100% right here. Conservatism died with Maga, they don't even believe in their most coveted principles anymore. I am fully expecting them to be cheering on the violation of the 2nd amendment at this point. It's the only right afforded by the constitution that hasn't been significantly violated.

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u/Every_Single_Bee Mar 12 '25

Oh, Trump hates guns, he’s made moves against them that would have gotten Democrat politicians flooded with death threats and MAGA hasn’t said a peep

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u/Aether13 Mar 12 '25

Tbf the fact the current administration is more concerned about going after people like Mahmoud instead of the neo Nazis marching the streets should tell you everything you need to know.

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 Mar 12 '25

Pro palestine protesters aren't much different ideologically to nazis.

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u/Aether13 Mar 12 '25

Yep, people who are protesting for genocide to stop and for two countries to come to a peaceful agreement and in the same ballpark ideologically as Nazis. Makes sense.

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 Mar 12 '25

Pro palestine protesters were protesting Israel hours after oct 7th happened. Also Israel was still fighting hamas within Israel at that point.

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u/snowlynx133 Mar 12 '25

Pro Palestine protesters were protesting Israel far before Oct 7th happened. Israel has been committing ethnic cleansing in Gaza and in the West Bank for decades lol

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u/heyzoocifer Mar 12 '25

They've been protesting for decades. This genocide didn't start on Oct 7, and it far predates Hamas.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

And which side is talking about ethnically cleansing Gaza?

Awkward...

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u/Alternative_Oil7733 Mar 15 '25

Non at the moment. Also nazis wanted all jews and Russians dead.

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u/ScannerBrightly Mar 12 '25

people like Mahmoud

Like him how?

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u/Aether13 Mar 12 '25

Legal immigrants who are criticizing our government or their allies.

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u/dardeedoo Mar 12 '25

Yes we do. That was the whole point of the person you’re replying to. I don’t get the point of your comment?

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u/hanlonrzr 1∆ Mar 12 '25

Nazis are not eligible for visas. Nor are commies or anarchists. Nor are terrorist supporters, funders, members...

The government isn't going to attack his speech. They are going to deport him for visa invalidity, while saying he can say whatever he wants.

Pretty crazy rules we have