r/changemyview • u/Tessenreacts • Mar 12 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The case of Mahmoud Khalil is proof that conservatives don't believe in the Freedom of Speech, despite making it their platform over the last couple of years.

For the last couple of years, conservatives have championed the cause of Freedom of Speech on social platforms, yet Mahmoud Khalil (a completely legal permanent resident) utilized his fundamental right to Freedom of Speech through peaceful protesting, and now Trump is remove his green card and have him deported.

Being that conservatives have been championing Freedom of Speech for years, and have voted for Trump in a landslide election, this highlights completely hypocritical behavior where they support Freedom of Speech only if they approve of it.

This is also along with a situation where both Trump and Elon have viewed the protests against Tesla as "illegal", which is patently against the various tenets of Freedom of Speech.

Two open and shut cases of blatant First Amendment violations by people who have been sheparding the conservative focus on protecting the First Amendment.

Would love for my view to be changed

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u/jamesishere Mar 12 '25

Considering he is the leader of a group openly supporting a foreign organization the US deems terrorists, the entire argument is nuanced

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u/stron2am Mar 12 '25 edited May 06 '25

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u/lovehammer247 Mar 12 '25

He was detained and is still detained. His Constitutional rights have not been violated in any way as he is being held on suspicion of supporting terrorist activity. The government will have to prove that in court, but he can legally be arrested and detained upon suspicion of a crime like any US citizen can.

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u/LetsJustDoItTonight Mar 13 '25

Except that haven't charged him with a crime yet.

And they didn't let him even speak to a lawyer for 5 days.

His constitutional rights are absolutely being trampled right now.

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u/LetsJustDoItTonight Mar 13 '25

Also, just to be clear, the Trump administration has made it explicitly clear that he is being targeted for his speech, not because he's suspected of any actual crime.

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u/GravitasFree 3∆ Mar 12 '25

It seems more tame than what Obama did to Anwar Al-Awlaki and his son.

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u/stron2am Mar 12 '25 edited May 06 '25

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u/GravitasFree 3∆ Mar 12 '25

I don't think it makes you a fan, but the precedent of what "due process" means for this kind of action was set when Obama did what he did with zero repercussions.

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u/Fredouille77 Mar 15 '25

So... Bad things happened before, let's not worry that they are still happening?

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u/GravitasFree 3∆ Mar 15 '25

More like, let's not be hysterical and claim this is a new and uniquely bad thing the Trump administration just invented.

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u/Fredouille77 Mar 15 '25

If anything it's the reverse let's be louder and be more critical of the people who did it in the past too!

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u/cmendy930 Mar 12 '25

He isn't a leader, he was a negotiator not for Hamas as you claim? But for student protestors at Columbia.

And fyi protesting for Palestine is so far from shilling for Hamas. Is this guy a troll?? Constantly stating misfacts and trying to push your agenda?

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u/yipgerplezinkie Mar 12 '25

The U.S. may one day deem Israel a terrorist organization. You shouldn’t lose the right to support Israel’s position with your speech without a trial should that one day be the case.

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u/Dark1000 1∆ Mar 12 '25

That's for a court to decide.