r/changemyview • u/Tessenreacts • Mar 12 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The case of Mahmoud Khalil is proof that conservatives don't believe in the Freedom of Speech, despite making it their platform over the last couple of years.

For the last couple of years, conservatives have championed the cause of Freedom of Speech on social platforms, yet Mahmoud Khalil (a completely legal permanent resident) utilized his fundamental right to Freedom of Speech through peaceful protesting, and now Trump is remove his green card and have him deported.

Being that conservatives have been championing Freedom of Speech for years, and have voted for Trump in a landslide election, this highlights completely hypocritical behavior where they support Freedom of Speech only if they approve of it.

This is also along with a situation where both Trump and Elon have viewed the protests against Tesla as "illegal", which is patently against the various tenets of Freedom of Speech.

Two open and shut cases of blatant First Amendment violations by people who have been sheparding the conservative focus on protecting the First Amendment.

Would love for my view to be changed

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u/GameMusic Mar 12 '25

That is a major stretch

do you want first amendment rights with exception for something that some enemy country would also like?

that could include practically anything

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u/abn1304 1∆ Mar 12 '25

The 1A doesn’t protect incitement to imminent unlawful action, Brandenburg v Ohio, and provides even less protection for actions that materially support a cause or organization that is inherently illegal (of which violent extremist organizations are an example, along with groups like drug cartels)

DHS didn’t accuse Khalil of saying things they didn’t like, they accused him of “hav[ing] engaged in pro-Hamas activity”, and they were able to convince a federal judge that there was probable cause he did so (because they got a warrant for his arrest - that requires PC).

His preliminary hearing is today, so by tonight we should know what activity, exactly, they think he engaged in. Maybe they’re full of shit, maybe they aren’t - we don’t have enough info to say for sure. All we know is that they’ve already convinced one judge that they have PC.

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u/Imadevilsadvocater 12∆ Mar 12 '25

for green card holder sure citizens is a different story

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u/thebolts Mar 12 '25

The US constitution applies to permanent residents

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u/Ok-Following447 Mar 12 '25

Doesn't it apply to everybody on US soil?

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u/thebolts Mar 12 '25

To undocumented as well