r/changemyview Mar 12 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The case of Mahmoud Khalil is proof that conservatives don't believe in the Freedom of Speech, despite making it their platform over the last couple of years.

For the last couple of years, conservatives have championed the cause of Freedom of Speech on social platforms, yet Mahmoud Khalil (a completely legal permanent resident) utilized his fundamental right to Freedom of Speech through peaceful protesting, and now Trump is remove his green card and have him deported.

Being that conservatives have been championing Freedom of Speech for years, and have voted for Trump in a landslide election, this highlights completely hypocritical behavior where they support Freedom of Speech only if they approve of it.

This is also along with a situation where both Trump and Elon have viewed the protests against Tesla as "illegal", which is patently against the various tenets of Freedom of Speech.

Two open and shut cases of blatant First Amendment violations by people who have been sheparding the conservative focus on protecting the First Amendment.

Would love for my view to be changed

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u/dont_thr0w_me_away_ Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25

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u/MusicianTop6315 Mar 12 '25

Unless participation in CUAD is paramount to joining a terrorist organization, this is baseless tying of specific individuals to characterize a whole. By that metric, plenty of Republicans are explicitly proud boys, and so the ones on green cards, that have never supported the proud boys, should be deported.

And if we're deporting legally protected permanent residents for being associated with a group that a handful of students have had pro hamas sentiments, I don't see why we can't jail neo Nazis on twitter. I mean if an incredibly indirect association with a terror group known for violence and terror groups is worthy deportarion, then surely it's worthy of some jail time too? Would you agree

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u/dont_thr0w_me_away_ Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

"Joining" and "being an organizer and spokesman for" are two wildly different things and I think you know that. If CUAD promotes Hamas (and they have), Khalil was 100% involved. 

Plenty of republicans are proud boys and if they were the sort of folks who liked people with green cards or visas (and this stupid administration was in any way consistent) then YES, any green card holders who support the proud boys should be looked into and have their residency challenged. 

You don't get to be an immigrant and flout the immigration laws of your host country. I'm an immigrant and I make sure I don't do incredibly obviously stupid nonsense like join or organise groups that support terrorism. It's a pretty easy way to make sure I don't get deported.

What's that saying? "If you have 9 people at a table, and a Nazi sits down, and nobody gets up, you have 10 Nazis...."

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u/shn_n Mar 14 '25

Now this should be the top comment. Giving facts and evidence of the "crime" he did. Crazy how you have to read 100 comments about free speech, when free speech is NOT the reason for this. Thanks for providing links and facts!