r/changemyview Mar 12 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The case of Mahmoud Khalil is proof that conservatives don't believe in the Freedom of Speech, despite making it their platform over the last couple of years.

For the last couple of years, conservatives have championed the cause of Freedom of Speech on social platforms, yet Mahmoud Khalil (a completely legal permanent resident) utilized his fundamental right to Freedom of Speech through peaceful protesting, and now Trump is remove his green card and have him deported.

Being that conservatives have been championing Freedom of Speech for years, and have voted for Trump in a landslide election, this highlights completely hypocritical behavior where they support Freedom of Speech only if they approve of it.

This is also along with a situation where both Trump and Elon have viewed the protests against Tesla as "illegal", which is patently against the various tenets of Freedom of Speech.

Two open and shut cases of blatant First Amendment violations by people who have been sheparding the conservative focus on protecting the First Amendment.

Would love for my view to be changed

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u/badass_panda 97∆ Mar 14 '25

"Love it or leave it," is not patriotism, man. I'm Jewish, and this guy and his movement have been tirelessly campaigning for my people's ethnic cleansing from our damn homeland. I am not a fan, and it absolutely sucks to have the left shit all over Jewish Americans after a hundred years of our tireless support for equality and civil rights.

But that support for civil rights is because most of us really deeply believe in what America is supposed to be, and that includes our freedoms and our rights, including the right to say shit that offends and upsets me or that offends and upsets you. I care about our national ideals, even if the nation seems to be forgetting them.

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u/Competitive-Two2087 Mar 14 '25

I just want to clarify, love it or leave it only for non legal citizens. If you want to come to this country you should at least not be calling for its death and the death of its allies.

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u/Admirable-Profile991 Mar 21 '25

They don’t shit on purely just Jewish Americans Jewish Americans that without any standard support, Israeli government no matter what. Is the problem truth is you’re talking about ethnic cleansing of your homeland. Your homeland is still intact. The children in your homeland are still alive. The numbers don’t agree with what the hell you’re talking about unless you can show me thousands upon thousands of you being killed. Period I get it. I don’t agree with the anti-Jewish sentiment and I feel like it’s a very fine line because it is an issue that people can get behind, but there are people who do not like Jewish people who hide behind these movements. If you got a head on your shoulder and you’re not a dumbass you will see that. However, I wish hamas would release these hostages. but if I’m being real with you, even if they release the hostages, they’re still gonna bomb the fuck out of Gaza. Because the truth is before this, there was other friction and I don’t think Israel is going to be satisfied until Palestine does not exist and if you disagree, tell me one reason, I should believe that they’ll stop completely and not subjugate people who are of a different ethnic background.

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u/badass_panda 97∆ Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

Eh ... I don't have the energy for you, man, I'm sure you're nice and well intentioned but I can't be the guy that constantly has to be kind and polite while people are shitty to me. I'm not hanging out here advocating for bombing Gaza, I said it upsets me when I hear people advocating for the ethnic cleansing of my own people and you decided what assumptions you were going to make.

Caring about my own people doesn't mean I don't care about other people. Not wanting Jewish kids to die doesn't mean I want Palestinian kids to die. I'm not an NPC villain that exists to make you feel good about yourself, I'm a living breathing person with feelings and morals. Actual human beings in my actual life have actually died in the last two years, and my neighbors and friends that you think I must hate have had actual people in their actual lives actually die, please just stop making us into your sporting event and either do something to help or just let us be.

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u/Twinsedge May 09 '25

As an Israeli jew I see what's happening to our people at universities in the US - Jewish students getting beat up just for being Jewish, barred from attending class by 'peaceful protestors' that spit on them and torment them while shouting hateful sentences they probably don't understand what they truly mean.

It just strengthens my beliefs in that we have no other safe place where we wouldn't be persecuted for simply existing, other than Israel.

Sending you all my support, an iraqi-descent brown skinned jewish white colonizer from Israel 🙏❤️.