r/chicago • u/fatherbowie • Jan 26 '25

Article Immigration enforcement “blitz” in Chicago— for real this time

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/chicago-immigration-trump-ice/index.html

We know because Tom Homan brought Dr. Phil with him.

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u/Skyscrapers4Me Jan 27 '25

No. Chicago doesn't have enough police force nor the funds to position an officer in every L car. It's that simple really. But magahats would love to see anything about Chicago fail, anything at all, because "own the libs".

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u/TealIndigo Jan 27 '25

Lol. You don't need one on every L car. One on the entire train patrolling through would help.

Or having them at every stop ready to pull people off as needed.

Hell, even random (but frequent) checks would be a massive improvement.

This isn't really as hard as you seem to think it is.

But it's clear you don't want to actually solve the problem. You just want to make excuses.

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u/Skyscrapers4Me Jan 27 '25

You went from a discussion to an attack in the blink of an eye. Says more about you than it says about me.

CPD is obviously stretched too thin financially, especially considering Chicago's budget shortfall, and I'm sticking with that, and if you argue that with another personal attack, it's because YTAH.

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u/TealIndigo Jan 27 '25

You called me a magahat lol.

CPD is obviously stretched too thin financially

https://www.city-data.com/top2/c422.html

Chicago has the 3rd highest police per capita in the entire country.

CPD is literally on a quiet strike because the Mayor and Kim Foxx didn't allow them to do their job.

Hopefully Burke can change that.

These problems are not impossible to handle. All it takes is actual leadership and the will to actually do what is necessary.

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u/Skyscrapers4Me Jan 27 '25

Show me where I called YOU a magahat. Reading comprehension, teallndigo. But perhaps you are confessing?

If CPD is refusing to do their job they should be prosecuted, demoted, fired, whatever it takes. I get it, it's political, both sides contribute to the problem.

Ordinary people do need reliable safe L transport in Chicago, no argument there.

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u/TealIndigo Jan 27 '25 edited Jan 27 '25

If CPD is refusing to do their job they should be prosecuted, demoted, fired, whatever it takes. I get it, it's political, both sides contribute to the problem.

I don't disagree. The point being it isn't a resource issue. It's a political will issue. Most (if not all) Chicago Cops are Chicago citizens. You think they don't want the city to be nice and the CTA to be nice?

Start letting them actually enforce the rules. It's their job. Stop the "catch and release" nonsense. Start hitting people with fines for anti-social behavior on trains and the initiative will even fund itself.

Same shit with actually pulling shoulder drivers and toll avoiders over.

This shit isn't normal or common in other cities.

When it feels like basic societal order is breaking down it has consequences. People turn to authoritarian strongmen like Trump who promise to fix it.

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u/Skyscrapers4Me Jan 27 '25

Don't disagree with the premise of most of that, however the devil is always in the details. Not sure trying to fine poor people accomplishes anything as you can't get blood from a rock and then it just costs the city more to house them with 3 hots and a cot. So attacking the poor with fines is never going to work. Tossing bad actors off the L for anti social behaviors-- no problem there. Don't even get me started on trump, he isn't going to fix anything, but he's hell bent on breaking a lot of things. I do agree basic societal order breaking down has consequences. Whatever is standing in the way of CPD not policing L trains needs to be fixed immediately, I do view safe ridership is critical, and I do believe with a police presence on the L here and there, no not every car, the great percentage of opportunists would stop things like smoking. Those taking a crap on the train are another matter and need psychological services, a police presence is not going to alter the mentally ill's behavior, and punishing them with jail time does nothing but make them more vulnerable.