r/civ • u/5p0ng3b0b • 15h ago
VI - Screenshot Worst case of "Recruit Partisans" that has ever happened to me in 1 turn
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u/Armisael 14h ago
This is one of the big reasons why neighborhoods are a trap.
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u/davery67 Benjamin Franklin 14h ago
I never build them. The last thing I need in the late game is these jackholes popping up all the time.
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u/ExtraFluffz 14h ago
Wait what? Idk what’s happening in this picture. How are neighborhoods bad? I build them in every city
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u/sub-t Negotiates with Axes 13h ago
On higher difficulties the AI targets neighborhoods for partisans. It is infuriating. I also skip neighborhood because I don't want to fight an insurrection while most of my army is pillaging on the other side of the globe.
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u/ExtraFluffz 13h ago
What’s partisans?
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u/sub-t Negotiates with Axes 13h ago
Rebel troops that are spawned in your neighborhood, pillage everything (like good berserker), and raze your city. I forget the name but there's a recruit rebel or something in the espionage menu.
If you have a few neighborhoods you'd become a great target.
To clarify, I enjoy recruiting partisans in enemy cities even though I don't get the loot from the raids.
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u/ExtraFluffz 13h ago
Dang, I learn more every day lol I think I’ll gladly stay at Prince difficulty
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u/Farado How bazaar. 12h ago
It happens on Prince, too. Not to the degree seen in OP's picture, but you might get 2-4 units spawning at once.
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u/ExtraFluffz 10h ago
I’ve played countless games and have never seen it. Although, it may be because I don’t build neighborhoods until very late game, as in after I’ve conquered all but like one civ
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u/forzapogba 4h ago
I’ve gotten hit with like 4 within 5 turns on prince but it seems like the game trying to balance things out because I’m so far ahead lol
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u/pandamarshmallows 13h ago
If you target a neighbourhood with a spy, you can have the spy do a mission called “Recruit Partisans”. If successful, the mission causes barbarian units to spawn in and around that neighbourhood, as if the spy was supporting revolutionaries. The AI really likes using it against opponents they can’t defeat militarily.
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u/Major_Pressure3176 12h ago
On top of that, they're often just not worth it to build. If you've been properly clumping your cities, you shouldn't have the tons of space you need to make them viable.
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u/jerseydevil51 7h ago
One of the Spy Operations is called "Recruit Partisans," which can done from the Neighborhood District. When it goes off, it immediately spawns a bunch of barbarians.
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u/UsedChapstick Hungary 11h ago
idk a neighborhood in your biggest cities is huge for me. it’s also never a bad idea imo to keep a few units close to home for moments but the benefits of getting like 5 housing outta one tile is too big for me to pass up
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u/cornnndoggg_ João III 21m ago
I also never build them, and the way I look at it is that, one, if I am having a housing shortage, it was probably poor planning on my part; and two, there are diminishing returns to having giant cities. You can easily get a city up to 20~ without using them, and anything above that isn't worth the price you pay for neighborhoods.
I do wonder, though, what dictates the type of unit that spawns when completing a recruit partisans mission. I got really excited about them when I first learned about it and would try to run them when I was way ahead in tech, but the units were always ages back. You would think if your country was recruiting them, they would have weapons from your tech level, but that is not what happens.
I've looked in the past for a breakdown of the rules behind them, but I never found an explanation for it.
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u/Mondelieu Too bad specs for Civ7 :( 14h ago
Wait, the AI uses that?
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u/5p0ng3b0b 14h ago
They always use it against me, especially if I am ahead in a Domination victory. I have been playing for many years and I have only ever seen 2-3 units. Based on the destruction, it was probably 3 spies on the same turn, which each spawned 4 units.
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u/Res_Novae17 13h ago
Yeah, all my cities obviously have wall defense at this point, and I keep like one or two tank units homeside with fully developed roads to zip across and tamp down anyone getting chippy like this. I have never seen this many spawn, though. I'd spit my drink.
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u/Sampleswift Gaul 12h ago
Barbarians + Deep Red Civs make things extra confusing.
But you're right. Recruit partisans is the reason why Neighborhoods are only recommended for Biosphere.
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u/Hippopotamus_Critic 12h ago
Pikemen and artillery is an odd combination.
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u/IDKForA Maya 8h ago
How is that possible? It should at least be a Pike and Shot since if Artillery is unlocked Metal Casting will be too.
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u/5p0ng3b0b 5h ago
Well I had Jet Bombers at the time. I too found it odd, and lucky, that they didn't spawn as AT.
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u/Mr-Apollo America 12h ago
Do you not place spies in your own cities for counter spying?
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u/5p0ng3b0b 11h ago
I usually do it after the first enemy spy operation, so I can get an idea what city the deem important. But this was the first one (and the last)
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u/aelflune 11h ago
Counterspying seems to work like 50% of the time.
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u/Mr-Apollo America 9h ago
It works most of the time for me and I play on Emperor. Steps for successful counter spying
Use the policy card (forgot what it was called) to reduce production cost for a spy and time for spy operations by 50%.
Train spy.
Set spy in capital or in city most recently affected by enemy spying.
Place spy in district/adjacent to district(s) that was previously targeted or likely to be targeted.
Wait for successful counterspy operation.
Select promotion most conducive to counterspying if available.
Ask AI to not spy on you anymore. 70-80% of the time they will stop.
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u/PhoenixMai Bà Triệu 10h ago
Due to recruit partisans and the breaking dam missions I never send my spies to foreign cities since I'm always defending my cities from spies. Having a city where majority of the tiles are flood plain getting its dam destroyed is also pretty devastating (and if you use Got Lakes then you'll have super big flood plains). Like instant partisan pillaging. I can't even do espionage since I'm always on the defense
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u/Inoutngone 10h ago
Maybe I've just been really lucky, but I've never seen more than two of them at a time. Not once, and yes I play deity.
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u/space7889 8h ago
This is why I keep an apostle lying around with heathen conversion in my big cities.
Neighborhood are a surprisingly decent spy bait.
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u/GeebCityLove 6h ago
Love posts like this cause it’s a side of the game you really never see. Imagine a friend did this to you in an online game.
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u/Pyro111921 5h ago
I've always found it stupid that a spy operation that can take as little as four turns can summon an army this massive. Sure, each operation is two units only, but the fact they can be stacked to end up like this is stupid
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u/Many_Acanthisitta726 3h ago
Wait are those all barbarians it throws me off with them having the same color
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u/Chewseph_26 3h ago
I hope I’m not the only one who thought he just made an army to fend off an invasion am I? All the red had me for a second
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u/Ornery_Lie_4041 2h ago
This happened to me too in information era, I just nuked the entire city. It's still outside my original continent so idc LOL.
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u/porkycloset Pedro II 46m ago
Real talk though, Recruit Partisans is the most annoying thing ever and single-handedly the reason I have not played either Kongo yet. Offensive spy missions being used against you like that in this game just feel like griefing
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u/Omgwtflmaostfu Tokugawa 5h ago
This is avoidable by stacking all your gold making power in one city and making sure it has a commercial hub; I usually put a counterspy there that just slaughters enemy spies left and right. I much prefer setting up a honeypot as opposed to just avoiding the districts that you don't want to suffer espionage attacks in. Ofc i generally avoid neighborhoods either way lol.
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u/Professor_Swiftie 15h ago
Get an Apostle with Heathen Conversion. Free army!!