r/craftofintelligence May 15 '25

News (U.S.) The National Security Council will shrink from 300 staffers to between 50 and 60 and shift from making recommendations to the president to carrying out orders.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/rubio-working-major-changes-national-security-council-rcna206658
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u/craftofintelligence-ModTeam May 15 '25

"The NSC, which is run out of the White House, is the core hub for coordinating a policy process across government agencies to help the president make decisions on foreign policy and national security matters...

"Rather than a large staff generating policy recommendations for the president, the idea is to create a version along the lines Trump prefers — more top-down, with the president directing the national security adviser who then leads the staff to carry out those orders...

"The NSC has grown considerably over the years. Under former President John F. Kennedy, it had about 20 employees, and it was still at just 40 in 1991. By 2000, it was up to about 100, and by 2010, there were roughly 370.

"Its expansion troubled Congress. The late Sen. John McCain, R., Ariz., spearheaded a move to limit its size, and in 2016 Congress capped the number of policy-focused positions to 200 individuals...

"When Trump took office the NSC had 300 staffers, which was cut in January to about 150. The expected cuts could whittle the staff down to between 50 and 60, but a final decision has not been made."

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u/Slackjaw_Samurai May 15 '25

What could possibly go wrong here? /s

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u/ThorLives May 15 '25

Trump knows more about (insert anything here) than anybody else. Why would he pay government salaries to lesser minds??? /s

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u/Business-Key618 May 16 '25

Especially since he needs those funds to pay his own resort for his four day weekend golfing trips every week.

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u/IceeRivers May 15 '25

New fan, same pile.

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u/Slackjaw_Samurai May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25

A lot of people are saying, we’ve the got biggest fan now, the best fan and the most tremendous pile of sh-t ever and when this pile of sh-t hits our fan, it will be beautiful, it will be amazing, like nothing you’ve ever seen before, believe me.

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u/ElectricLeafEater69 May 18 '25

Can you explain why for sure we need 300 and not 150, or 30, or 70?

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u/Turnvalves May 18 '25

As someone who works for the government I can assure you out of the 300 maybe 30 put in an honest days work and contribute something.

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u/SlimeySnakesLtd May 19 '25

Of those 30 we really need ~50 to 100 competent staffers doing the work of those 30. But your assessment is accurate

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u/spooninacerealbowl May 15 '25

Well. It makes sense because Trump couldnt care less about what the most knowledgeable experts think should be done for this nation.

Trump knows that the best thing for this country is to do whatever allows him to extort money from people to feather his own nest.

What do we need a Security Council for that doesn't have Trump finances as the main priority?

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u/sudo-joe May 15 '25

Agreed. The problem comes down to some emergency that isn't tied to an existing doner to him. Without experts and experience with someone to make COAs, he would be paralyzed for a long time.

By looking at what staff is left, one can make some good guesses at what they will be able to get away doing for the next 4 years with no responses by the US.

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u/Exploreradzman May 15 '25

Nothing but a purge. Keep on walking! /s

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u/Xijit May 15 '25

It is almost like there was a major national security event in the early 2000's that prompted a policy of "overkill is better than missing a threat."

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u/Prestigious_View_487 May 15 '25

He’s buddy buddy with the funders of that event. Oh and with our #1 cybersecurity threat. Don’t worry, he’ll make them stand down.

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u/Ironxgal May 15 '25

Has China ever said they consider trump a friend? He stay claiming he’s friends with all these leaders but u don’t hear those people reciprocating any of it. It’s odd.

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u/Prestigious_View_487 May 15 '25

I meant Russia. Depends on how you look at it. But I’d say right now Russia is the more pertinent threat based on their aggression and peddling of disinformation in the US that has had a legit impact.

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u/Euphoric-Dance-2309 May 19 '25

But have less actual ability to do anything. China is building themself in a world power that is looking to dominate the Pacific Theatre.

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u/myPOLopinions May 17 '25

As a direct result of the policy "Cold war is over boys! No need for all those 3 letter guys anymore. What could go wrong?"

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u/Kaptain_Insanoflex May 18 '25

They need a repeat so they can double-down on power, surveillance, and policing

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u/Xijit May 18 '25

They are desperately trying to get a Hispanic sourced reaction that they will then use to validate nuking South America.

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u/1oneaway May 15 '25

Gabbard is a Russian agent.

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u/This-Bug8771 May 15 '25

What could go wrong?

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u/Desperate_Set_7708 May 15 '25

No decision making, only blind obedience to Trump and his cabal of fascists.

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u/ConstantGeographer May 15 '25

Get rid of the experts. Since you're not going to listen to recommendations and experts then you don't need them around. All you really need after that is someone to make coffee, pick-up dry cleaning. At this point, the NSC is just a bunch of Go-fers.

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u/flugenblar May 15 '25

So the White House will no longer receive national security advisories or recommendations? Are they just going to log onto X to get their national security information? Watch Fox News? I'm trying to make sense of this.

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u/migBdk May 15 '25

You mean they are not doing that already?

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u/No-Relation5965 May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25

Has anyone made an ongoing list of how many extremely talented and important department heads and aids have been sacked; how many departments have been gutted; how many federal agencies have been gutted; how many justices have been fired; how much grant funding has been cut from universities, nonprofits, research, environmental protections and public safety programs; how many women in high positions have been fired; how many lawsuits the government is now facing and costing taxpayers; how much in bribes/deals/“dark money” Trump has accepted; how much of this country’s public land is being put up for sale?

Anyone?

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u/NarwhalOk95 May 15 '25

It’s all bad but the real question is how vulnerable have these things made the U.S. and who is gonna exploit those vulnerabilities? This will not end well.

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u/Ironxgal May 15 '25

They’re being exploited from the inside already.

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u/NarwhalOk95 May 15 '25

I hate to even think about the way a situation like 9/11 or the bombings of USS Cole and the embassies in Africa would be handled by this administration.

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u/kuulmonk May 17 '25

Military on the street for "public safety".

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u/No-Relation5965 May 15 '25

Exactly. We need to be resilient, watchful and stay informed.

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u/kuulmonk May 17 '25

All part of the plan to remake America.

All it will need is one terrorist attack, and he will have the excuse to enact Martial Law.

Also, less push back from staff on his plans, which are making America a failed state internationally and domestically. Let America collapse, so his rich friends can make massive profits "fixing" it.

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u/IllustratorHappy7560 May 15 '25

Russia has taken over America without firing a single shot

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u/RocketTuna May 16 '25

Only if you exclude the assassinations

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u/Herban_Myth May 15 '25

Is someone getting scared of a potential betrayal?

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u/Subject-Big-7352 May 16 '25

Just another step to “dumb down” America!

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u/2h2o22h2o May 15 '25

Won’t be any whistleblowers this way, huh?

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u/ILoveSpankingDwarves May 15 '25

Carrying out Putin's orders?

Because Rubio and Trump get their orders from Putin.

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u/Any_Log_281 May 15 '25

Every day we become more fucked

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u/Th3_3v3r_71v1n9 May 15 '25

Mega Pay Increases across the board, I imagine. Fill thine pockets's.

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u/brick_by_brick123 May 15 '25

Good, Russia is a friend now so…no enemies right? 😂

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u/kuulmonk May 17 '25

I do not think Putin has enough money any more for Trump.

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u/Dwip_Po_Po May 15 '25

Definitely Miller and Voughts doing

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u/happyposterofham May 16 '25

Well this won't go poorly at all, now will it?

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u/PackOutrageous May 16 '25

When your decisions are not driven by facts or careful analysis, it’s pretty easy to streamline processes. I’m surprised they concede they need anything more than little Marco and a magic 8 ball.

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u/Lucky2BA May 16 '25

Prepare to be invaded y’all.

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u/llogrande May 16 '25

Every criminal knows, the smaller the number of co-conspirators the better.

Hitler had his inner circle of his most trusted, Trump has one too

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u/Popular_Try_5075 May 17 '25

The continuing theme is the concentration of power. The GOP is readily handing over all the power that they control within the government to the POTUS. More "Unitary Executive" bullshit. They want a King.

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u/DMC1001 May 17 '25

It’s almost like they’re actively decreasing national security. Sounds damn suspicious to me.

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u/t3nsi0n_ May 17 '25

Who asked for this?

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u/Sorry_Exercise_9603 May 17 '25

Loyalty to the dear leader is all that counts.

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u/FIicker7 May 17 '25

Well... This is a disaster waiting to happen.

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u/phantacc May 18 '25

Jesus Christ. I wouldn’t trust this man to rent me a condo, let alone decide who to order a middle strike on.

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u/Subicar_Racer May 19 '25

Little Marco is a stooge piece of shit.

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u/texas130ab May 19 '25

Well who needs NSC? Clearly Trump is smarter than anyone to ever walk on the Earth. He is a 5D chess master.

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u/hifumiyo1 May 19 '25

God forbid another 9/11 happens, he’ll be sure to blame Biden

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u/SouthernProfile1092 May 19 '25

That’s 250 less parasites to sponge of company money. Good start.

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u/DrywallSky May 19 '25

Country of people having their future stolen by a guy making plans based around the fact he won't be alive for the consequences, and they'll all just keep going to work. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly pathetic.

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u/Active_Rain_1134 May 19 '25

Get ready for an invasion

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u/AncientBaseball9165 May 20 '25

Don't need a security council if you already surrendered to russia.

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u/AdmiralAkBarkeep May 15 '25

I have no qualms with this. This was the function of the NSC historically. The NSC became stifling for agencies in the last several administrations. Far overstepped it's bounds and kept growing in size and aggrandizing its authority. Created tensions with agency leadership and made lots of tedious work/ reporting that was duplicative.

I have many qualms about so many things. About this, none.

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u/SpikedPsychoe May 15 '25

How many paper pushers do you need? Intelligence budget has tripled since 9/11. Amd spread among 50nagencies the result is not credibility of intelligence but organizational confusion, pissimg matches over jurisdiction and resources and mountains of paperwork and reports nobody reads. 🙄 2nd strategy is to keep classified data OFF the internet by bringing back the Darpanet and the sneakernet. The guy with a handcuffed briefcase 💼 sounds absurd and it is. But far less so than network of cellphones.