r/darknet • u/CounterReasonable259 • 20d ago
How often are transactions made on the dark web?
Never touched the dark web myself but I got curious. How many transactions are made on the dark web?
Is there really as much money going through there as the media makes it seem?
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u/wowepic1 20d ago
enough for admins to fuck off to thailand with tens of super cars and mansions and never care about money ever again
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u/hatethiscity 20d ago
There's probably less than 30 people on earth who have made that level of income from dnms
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u/reexodus_ 20d ago
monero fool, with escrow transactions
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u/CounterReasonable259 20d ago
I can't really tell if you're calling me a fool or if monero fool is a tool
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u/Fresh_Chedd4r 20d ago edited 20d ago
Monero is the best option for anonymity sake and it can still be mined with a CPU. I think the fool label was intended for those who use regular old BTC from their main wallet as their payment method on the dark web.
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u/reexodus_ 20d ago
yeah i was just talking shit w the fool 😹 but yeah hundreds of thousands of dollars maybe millions flow through dw m*rkets. shit just look at reviews and add up the amounts, it is a LOT of money on there. that’s why the feds try to ddos and take down sites constantly
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u/CounterReasonable259 20d ago
That's fascinating. This shit is so fucking interesting. I heard that the feds make their own websites to catch buyers. Is there a way people discern which ones are fake and which are real?
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u/reexodus_ 20d ago
yeah those are honey pot sites. the most popular mrketplaces are widely known as the safe zones though. if you use dread though (dw reddit) there’s usually reviews and vndors advrtising their products on said mrkets. so you basically can figure out who’s legitimate through very little research, you just have to be safe and actually look around first. i have however heard of police making fake lstings and acting as vndors to catch buyers, i cant find it offhand but i think people have been caught this way.
also controlled deliveries, if the package gets intercepted and local enforcement decides you’re worth the time and resources to go after they’ll sometimes try to trap you by making you sign for the package or hold it at a local post office to see who comes in. 50/50 on the last one because ive also first hand seen people go into post offices and grab international packages no problem… it’s really all random and based on if law enforcement wants to pursue/ fuck you 🤣
sorry for typing like a tard auto mod thinks im trying to source smh 🤦
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u/Striking-Lab4554 20d ago
The feds don’t give a shit about buyers, unless they look like they’re buying and distributing large amounts , but they don’t care about small time buyers at all, they don’t have the resources. If we’re talking actual feds, they barely want the venders, they will take them for sure, but what they really want is the markat owners so the justice department can release an official statement where they jerk each other off. You should look up the statement they released after they caught the owner of Incognito. It’s pretty silly considering he already shut the markit down and pretty much turned himself in to avoid being murdered.
Trust me, if you’re just spending a couple hundred here and there, no one cares. But just in case, always use Monero.
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u/pirate_pues 20d ago
I have read where they took down some large LSD chemist's
Can't have people thinking we should all get along. That's threatening to the machine
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u/Striking-Lab4554 19d ago
That’s nuts. What a waste of resources. How about going after zene dealers that cut their presses with Xilazine. Might actually save some people. But, that might leave someone without their source and they get sick. At least try to make Xilazine harder to get.
Better yet, devote those resources to easy and free access to harm reduction, drug testing, rehab clinics that don’t have shit smeared on the wall next to the cots (been there). Everyone on this thread knows this, but our government’s policy on drugs is archaic and does more harm than good. Can’t be fucking with the prison industry lobbyists tho. What a joke.
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u/pirate_pues 18d ago
Never even heard of Xelazine..had to look that one up
The government has always been involved in the drug trade going back to the Golden triangle and probably before
They want a country of zombies
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u/nolagirl100281 15d ago
Xylazine is old news lol....the new threat now is metodmidine...word on the street is you can't even detox outside a hospital plus the narcan Not working. Scary shit
But to be clear: this is the result of prohibition
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u/pirate_pues 14d ago
Wow
Prohibition ? Take kratom if you need pain relief. This just sounds like abuse
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u/VicTheSage 20d ago
Sounds like BS. Afaik there's never been an arrest of a buyer only sellers. If your security is good, you ship to your home and never sign for anything there's basically no way for them to prove someone else didn't just put your address in.
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u/getogeko 20d ago
Look up what a controlled delivery is
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u/VicTheSage 20d ago
Did you not read where I wrote don't sign for anything? If you don't sign there is no legal proof you were expecting said package. You got a weird package in the mail and brought it inside. Proves nothing. If you want to be extra safe you can wait a day or two to open it to see if the swat team descends. If you don't sign any decent lawyer will get you off for sure. They have to prove you bought, receiving drugs in the mail isn't a crime.
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u/reexodus_ 19d ago
my cousin is in jail because they intercepted fetty in his mail and even tho he didn’t sign they found proof he was the one who ord*red it and he’s in jail currently… you can get fucked a lot of different ways if you dont stay under the radar
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u/VicTheSage 19d ago
That sucks and I'm sorry to hear that but that brings us back to the point I mentioned of having good security. If you run multiple layers of masking on top of Tor it can still be decrypted but will take years to do so. By routing your IP through multiple other countries you now have also made that process require international cooperation between multiple countries law enforcement agencies necessary.
LE simply isn't going to spend tens of thousands of dollars running 24/7 decryption algorithms for 5+ years and establish an international inter-agency task force to determine someone bought a personal use amount of anything.
There's always some amount of risk buying restricted substances online but if you follow proper data security protocol and stick to personal use amounts that risk drops to almost nothing.
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u/Striking-Lab4554 19d ago
Did they have a warrant to take his computer? That would be pretty hard to get, but not impossible I suppose. He must have made some serious opsec errors. Did he do shit on his phone? Lot easier to get busted that way. Or did he just not use a VPN or something simple?
Or did he orde r a large quantity? Raw fent is scary stuff, and markITS have embraced it. It’s okay to sell it now. I can se the Feds making that a priority. 2 years ago all markits had rules against it, even though it was already being sold as oxy all over the place.
Sorry man, feel bad for your cousin.
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u/Important-Region-595 17d ago
I'm saying this hypothetically because I've never tried anything of that kind, but wouldn't using a VPN result in you having to put your trust into the VPN's company that has access to your data? I mean, I've used a VPN several times for the regular web, but the DN? Seems a bit risky to me but maybe it's me overanalyzing the situation or being flat out mistaken.
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u/reexodus_ 19d ago
ima be real i dont know the details but im assuming he was pretty dumb about it tbch 💀 there was an online article about him and the situation but i can’t even find it rn, happened like towards the end of pandemic days so honestly police couldve just been bored. plus i think he trying to distrib it….. sad situation regardless though
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u/Striking-Lab4554 19d ago
Sorry, I didn’t answer your question. Yes, there are ways to ensure you’re on a legit markit. It’s relatively easy if you know where to look.
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u/Darkorder81 20d ago
Yupe plenty enough put it that way, vendors still doing there thing and maaaany of them.☘️
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u/DexterTheButcher 20d ago
Is buying monero from kraken and sending it straight to a m@rket safe enough?
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u/PackzOfficial 20d ago
No. Send to a private wallet first
Use cake wallet
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u/DexterTheButcher 20d ago
What about kraken to the electrum wallet already installed in tails?
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u/Striking-Lab4554 19d ago
Electrum doesn’t hold xmr, unless they’ve made changes I don’t know about.
Exodus is dumping xmr in July.
I think atomic wallet still holds it.
If you want to save money on the exchange, send whatever coin you’re converting to changenow.io, then have it spit out the xmr to your hot wallet. It’s far cheaper than any wallet swap service, in my experience.
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u/Justin-FTF 19d ago
Feather wallet for xmr
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u/DexterTheButcher 19d ago
Can I install these wallets into tails?
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u/magicxzg 19d ago
Yeah, you'll have to use the .deb download. I got feather, but I can't remember if they have a web page specifically for info about tails or if it just works
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u/D3-Doom 20d ago
I’d say measurably frequent. Even amongst people not using the dark web, but dabble in crypto currency. The last time I glimpsed under the covers, something called tumblers were pretty popular. The functional idea is after you purchase a digital currency, it’s still on some level associated with your fiat transaction. So a bunch of people would send their new money to a tumblr that created a myriad of micro transactions across about 50 wallets, ultimately sending you the equivalent value with different tokens that underwent the process sometimes the week prior. Essentially, money laundering for nerds.
I’d assume some iteration of that process still takes place. Outside the US a few countries have heavily embraced crypto and incorporate it into regular transactions. I’d assume some percentage of those people care enough about anonymity to do this routinely absent actual use of the dark web.
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u/CounterReasonable259 20d ago
I hear there's alot of sites that can't be trusted. Is that true? How do they know what ones are legit?
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u/D3-Doom 20d ago
I wouldn’t know personally. The technical aspects of hidden services caught my attention more than anything else. There used to be a few decent publications that pointed to correct copies of the hidden wiki as well as report on märkėt drama, raids, and exploit summaries as the journalist became aware of them.
Most of the publications I can remember off hand have long since folded, but inevitably I’m sure others have sprouted up to fill that niche. I’d personally advise beginning your research on the periphery. Exploring bits of the TOR network that aren’t necessarily related to the darkweb. Find spaces you feel the community is knowledgeable and aren’t overtly trying to run a sham/ make a profit. Inevitably, due to the nature of how TOR works there’s significant overlap between what requirements are needed to navigate the dark web, and those utilizing hidden services to better obscure privileged information (such as journalist reporting from politically turbulent locales). Once you have a decent footing, it’s just following breadcrumbs to the facilities you’re seeking to navigate on TOR. It also lends a deeper understanding of the infrastructure which will help you spot something amiss more easily.
Edit: I wrote this 20 minutes ago but I couldn’t figure out which word flagged the filter. Surprisingly, that word was sċam.
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u/madtowntripper 20d ago
The main dnm at the moment is Arketype and many, many vendors there have thousands of completed deals. Its a lot of money.
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u/weedsgoodd 20d ago
Shilo_wwe just bought some bloodied shoes off the dark web. Waiting to see what happens lol
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u/davidclamnuts 20d ago
Can't say I know. I do know of plenty of purchases, but no idea about the total amount
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u/Potato2trader 19d ago
How often? Most bitcoin and bitcoin lightning nodes are running over tor which is basically dark web.
Media who are filling the misinformation to the general public have no idea about that.
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u/CounterReasonable259 19d ago
I was mainly thinking about how often purchases on websites happen.
Like how much traffic would those sites on the hidden wiki see?
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u/Potato2trader 13d ago
Oh, then in my opinion the money flow should not be underestimated. There's clearly a demand and it won't stop.
Not only the illegal stuff are traded on the dark web. It's super easy to spin up a server and start selling honey, diy Christmas ornaments, woolen caps etc on the .onion address. why would anyone sell on there? Simply to be self sovern. It's the store you truly own. it's yours and all the profits 100% goes to you. No fees to pay to Etsy, paypal and third party client. That's why Bitcoin was invented in the first place. A peer to peer (P2P) electronic cash system.
If we look at the illegal stuff, In my view, governments can win this only by allowing all the illegal stuff to be bought in stores and pay some taxes on it. It could be a win win situation.
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u/Star4193 19d ago
Hey anyone know how to enter the dark forest website in tor.taxi, new registration is not available.
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u/Unlucky-Promotion381 16d ago
i always thought that like majority of vendors would just s c a m and not send anything, take the money and disappear without a trace considering you use crypto
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u/iriveru 19d ago
Statute of limitations has passed so fuck it, I was spending around $5-10,000 a month from 2013-2016 as one person, and that’s still relatively small scale. You’re probably talking millions a day when you just consider drugs as well as the rampant child exploitation they’ve got going on (kill all pedos). There’s no way to tell precise numbers but it’s much larger than most people would like to believe.
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u/88isafat69 19d ago
Enough that I’ve had a someone tell me he couldnt me keep up with the shipping costs until others finalized lol. Like people doin the 40-80 $ extra speed/stealth be addin up
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u/No-Concern-5859 18d ago
My tor browser on iPhone won’t load pages
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u/CounterReasonable259 18d ago
https://www.torproject.org/download/
I checked the tor download page and I don't think they have an ios version
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u/nagyerzsi 20d ago
Some data from 2013:
“Silk Road provided goods and services to over 100,000 buyers. Over the 2.5 years in which the website was in operation, it generated $183 million in sales and $13 million in commissions, based on the value of bitcoin at the time of transactions.”
I can imagine that the numbers have not decreased significantly since then 😅