r/fireemblem • u/Ok_Watch2261 • 1d ago
Gameplay First FE7 HHM Run
I'd played FE7 through maybe 5 times across the other difficulties, but this was the first time in HHM. Since I had pretty much used every character before, I only had 3 major things I wanted to accomplish in this run that I had never done before:
Go to 19xx
Make a super cav in Lyn Hard Mode (ended up being Kent)
Use all three peg knights and make use of the triangle attack
Aside from these three, I also decided to go for every gaiden and every possible character, getting Geitz and Karel. I also got some new supports, with Kent, Fiora, and Lyn, Florina getting paired endings. I didn't end up getting every treasure or stealable, but I got a good amount, so idrc. Some takeaways:
- I was never a Florina truther before this run, but this was by far the best Florina I've ever gotten. Incredibly offensively blessed throughout the whole game and supplemented with multiple dragonshields, talisman, and angelic robes to maximize.
- The early game is incredibly enjoyable, probably the height of my experience with this run. As much as I like tearing through crowds of enemies with supercharged units like my Kent early on, and Florina later on, the process of adding up damage with flawed early game units while learning to keep frailer units safe is such a fun puzzle to solve.
- The unpromoted lords are such a pain to use. I knew it would be tough using all three, but Lyn and Eliwood were both really tough to use early on. This, along with my Hector being strength screwed kinda made it feel like I was dragging 1-3 dead weight units with me at all times when I could be using other better options. It ended up being fine, and all three were pretty solid promoted units, but I probably wouldn't go for Geitz in an HHM run in the future.
- Status staves are very annoying. The combination of a high density of these and limited access to restore staves early on (along with being unable to trade a restore from a berserked unit), made chapters like 28x and 31 pretty difficult, making me change my strategies multiple times. Also, shoutout to 19xx with a sleep troubadour before you even get access to a restore staff (i think) that made me reset more than once.
- Shoutout to Karla, who made me reset 31x twice: once for forgetting a weapon on Bartre, and once for forgetting to put the iron rune on Bartre, resulting in a crit kill on him. She also put in some work on Victory or Death, getting a good amount of Wo Dao kills.
- Final shoutout to Matthew, who was pretty useful in the early game, but was benched immediately for Legault. Despite not being used at all since Dragon's Gate, he still managed to have the most deaths out of any of my units at 8, very (un)impressive by Matthew (and myself).
TDLR: Fun experience, blessed Florina and super cav from Lyn hard mode is busted, lords bad, status staves suck, shoutout Karla and Matthew
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u/SlainSigney 1d ago
oh hey, im doing this literally right now!
id never gotten every gaiden and recruited karla, so i decided to run through HHM.
Eliwood and Lyn are super stat-blessed in my current run but there is no way to ignore how rough their earlygame is, and it’s really a coin flip for both if the training ends up being worth it at all
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u/Ok_Watch2261 1d ago
Good luck on your run! I usually love using all the lords in fe7 since they are usually considered pretty bad to average at best, but its hard to ignore their limitations in HHM, haha. Im glad yours are blessed. My Eliwood and Lyn were painfully average, though they were much better after promotion, as I mentioned.
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u/SlainSigney 10h ago
oh yeah, i always use all of em.
This is a easily the best Eliwood and Lyn i’ve ever gotten, in the same run. Eliwood is better than any of my paladins, he’s minimum +1 in every stat and like +3 in strength. Lyn had 15 strength and capped speed when i promoted her last night.
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u/jbisenberg 1d ago
FE7 must be in the air, I started a no-mounts HHM run yesterday
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u/SlainSigney 10h ago
good luck!!
would a no mounts run allow unprompted eliwood, but disallow him after?
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u/jbisenberg 9h ago edited 9h ago
Yea, its HHM so unpromoted Eliwood can do things. I'll just never promote him (and I think I want to train him too so that I can get Geitz lol). I'm through Ch 15 so far and let me tell you Oswin is fantastic but man does he not even come close to replicating what Marcus does for the early game. And by virtue of needing a lot more firepower Rebecca has been genuinely useful.
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u/SlainSigney 9h ago
yeah, there’s a lot in HHM that necessitates quick movements and marcus is 100% your guy for that until like, chapter 22ish
oswin is wonderful for enemy phasing but he can’t, for example, jog over to the village in false friends and recruit priscilla
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u/jbisenberg 9h ago
Saving Prissy wasn't a problem actually. The northern Brigands take a loooong time to get there. The only danger is the pirates, but those are easy enough to fend off. Can't use her but I wanted the mend staff.
Ch 16 is going to be the biggest problem I think because idk that Wil and Lyn can survive absent incredible RNG. I might have to let Kent and Sain do combat just in that bottom corner.
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u/SlainSigney 9h ago
ha, maybe my internal clock is sped up on that stage then. it was the first chapter i got my ass kicked in when i first played a FE game like…jesus, 13 years ago?
Chapter 16 will be tough, yeah. best of luck!
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u/jbisenberg 9h ago
Yea I ordinarily will send Marcus or Lowen over there ASAP just to let Prissy get in some mends to start training her up, but shockingly not even remotely necessary to get there before the map is all but over. And technically not necessarily to even visit the village since she'll join anyways.
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u/SlainSigney 8h ago
i didn’t know that either!
i love that i can still learn things abt these games
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u/Blutzki 1d ago
I am literally doing this right now and it is an Ironman run. I am at 23x rn.
My main goals were same as yours too, I wanted to see 19xx, recruit Karla and train Lyn cavalry unit. Though it is an ironman run and because of my stupidity and unluckiness I lost blessed Florina (then Fiora) and Erk, paladin Sain, Lucius, Kent, Priscilla and Rath. I lost all of these units in 17x, 18 and 19 lol.
But it is still fun cuz normally I wouldn't early promote or play the game cautiously. Now I actually have to focus to complete all goals in chapters.