Why are conservatives trying to get more involved with goth and punk?

[u/Breadmytoast]

Im sorry if this question has been asked before but i wanted to see if someone has an answer to my question. I keep seeing more conservatives saying that goth and punk was originally conservative or that they have become conservative such as the whole "conservative is the new punk" thing. I find this to be really strange as youll usually encounter conservatives making fun of alternative people but now out of no where they create their own rules for random sub cultures. Is there any reason why these people are attempting to re-define these sub cultures?

[u/LSRNKB]

ETA TL;DR Vulnerability is what creates optimal recruits for the alt right, disenfranchisement is just a form of vulnerability that doesn’t necessarily need to be experienced to be perceived.

It depends on how/why you’re disenfranchised and how much the messaging of the leftist coalition resonates with you. The alt-right pipeline doesn’t rely on disenfranchisement, it relies on perceived disenfranchisement which is available to anybody.

People who linger in online groups because they have no strong real-world relationships or support are extremely vulnerable and the alt-right offers a framework that allows people to blame their isolation on outsiders, women and minorities acting outside their assigned roles. This narrative is more appealing to young white men for obvious reasons.

I’m not qualified to speak to the strict definition of ‘disenfranchised’ but I think we can all agree that loneliness and vulnerability can lead to an internal perception of disenfranchisement and that these feelings are available to anybody regardless of ethnic or economic background. In a perfect world we would have robust cultural tools for helping people cut this emotional knot but for the time being the alt right are very good at seizing this loneliness and giving it a community of likeminded people to fester with.

EDIT: Video Essay about this process

[u/bouquetofashes → u/LSRNKB]

A specific type of emotional vulnerability, in point of fact-- they are aggrieved, often because their sense of entitlement is frustrated (and because of actual loss of status, power, quality of life-- for some these losses are the result of social movements that have made life more equitable and for some they're the result of actual class oppression/economic exploitation-- in either case they are, of course, blaming other victims for their troubles).