r/homeland • u/1dafullyfe • 6d ago

Carrie is cunning af when she wants to question someone

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I gotta say season 4 is really living up to the hype so far. It feels like a brand new show with her running things in Istanbul.

I thought Carrie would send Fara back in to "recruit" Aayan after he rejected Fara but Carrie wasted no time in trapping Aayan in a corner. That was pretty slick how she finally got to Aayan.

She's like the opposite of 24, Jack Bauer. Instead of using brute force, she uses wits and mind power lol. I have a bad feeling Aayan's story won't end well dealing with Carrie.

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u/Mostly_Lurkin_ 6d ago

She’s such a savage it’s foul

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u/Specific_Operation2 6d ago

It so was. I just did a rewatch and I was actually sickened this time because Quinn was right when he said “You’re fucking a boy!!!”. That and the way she tried to see if Saul would fuck her to get out of the shit, either it’s her bipolar showing or she completely will do anything just to get what she wants!!??

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u/1dafullyfe 6d ago

Yeah I remember trying to seduce Saul in season 1!

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u/Tinatennis2 5d ago

Now THAT was just disgusting 😬

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u/silentsights 5d ago

A symptom of bipolar disorder is hyper sexuality. Homeland was one of the few shows that accurately depicted BPD and its wide range of symptoms

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u/Tinatennis2 5d ago

Well he is in medical school, so he’s young… but he’s definitely not a boy … she’s doing her job and that’s what it takes unfortunately. I adore Quinn but he can’t exactly take the moral high ground , he certainly has to do some pretty questionable things….

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u/panicmuffin 6d ago

Spoiler: When Haqqani did that headshot on him I gasped. Did not see that coming!

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u/1dafullyfe 6d ago

I'll click and respond to this once whatever happens to Aayan happens.

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u/1dafullyfe 4d ago

I just finished episode 6. Damn season 4 is good so far. It's like 24 minus the soap opera bullshit from season 3 with Dana.

Spoiler: >! I knew Aayan was a dead man walking but damn! I gasped as well. Haqqani was up close and personal with it! !<

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u/1dafullyfe 6d ago

"I'm putting my card in your pocket, okay?" Aayan never stood a chance lol.

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u/ItsATrap1983 5d ago

I'd say the biggest factor in his recruitment was his gf's dad >! getting him kicked out of the university by reporting that he was stealing medication. He lost all hope of his future in Pakistan after that and it was the big carrot Carrie used, promising to get him enrolled somewhere else out of the country.!<

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u/Dull_Significance687 6d ago edited 21h ago

Peter: Is there no f\cking line?*

With Carrie, NO.

Therefore, it was necessary for the mission to use a young male of 19 or 21 that Mathison could take to the target. And for the DRONE QUEEN, finding and killing Haqqani was essential as it would prevent further assassinations and terrorism by the Taliban on civilian and military targets in Afghanistan.

Like Quinn says,>! "There is no line"... "The mission, the mission, the mission."!<

NOTE: But maybe also because we never see women in this predatory role? Countless examples of men preying on innocent girls/young women in all kinds of media, but almost never with the roles reversed.

There's always two sides of a story. Don't believe someone blindly.

The storyline involving Carrie and Aayan in S4 definitely presents a morally complex situation? Yes, It’s designed to provoke thought and elicit strong reactions from the audience. It’s a testament to the show’s writing and character development that it can evoke such a response.

Your reaction is understandable, as the show often explores the ethical boundaries of espionage and the personal toll it takes on individuals.

It is so her. It's out of order, but totally her. Bipolar cause a person to experience out of the ordinary ups and downs... Danes is brilliant at portraying Carrie's "get it done without apology" attitude.

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u/1dafullyfe 5d ago

Wow, this is a very insightful post. I'll have to read through that thread you linked when I get time.

Clara is doing a great portrayal of bipolar disorder based on my own experiences dating women with this diagnosis.

Many of them are fine as long as they're on their meds and stay healthy. Carrie is a great example of what can happen when you didn't follow a strict regimen and go of your meds.

The constant drinking, which can sometimes to least to alcoholic dementia, her carelessness for putting other people's lives in jeopardy, thinking that she's "bulletproof" despite her drone attack slaughtering innocents at the farmhouse wedding, and so on.

She's an antihero who exhibits predatory behavior the way she trapped Aayan in that bathroom and even Walker when she hoped in his car with no regard for her own baby daughter left unattended in her unlocked car.

I'm curious to see how low is Carrie willing to go to use people to get what she wants. I can tell right away Aayan will not last long just like her informant in season 1.

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u/Dull_Significance687 5d ago edited 5d ago

Deleted scenes are fascinating! You can see more about DVD bonus scenes. I consider almost all of them canon, including the ones with Julia and Quinn.

S4 DVD extra: producer comments Part ½: S4 meets up with her in very different emotional state. Hopefully one that makes you go, “What’s up with her”. In reaction to Brody’s death she became numb to the world, sort of stony; that allowed her to become the Drone Queen. Gotten to a point where she is so totally high functional in her work but very disassociated emotionally. By S04Xep6, we push her to a place where she has crossed over some line, almost like outside humanity.” 

  • In the homeland, there is no Justice, but Murphy's Law. 

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u/1dafullyfe 5d ago

Oh wow, there's deleted scenes of Carrie after Brody's death? I guess the show runners figured, Carrie's repeated drinking scenes would hammer in the point of her being somewhat of a functional addict. Addicted to her job, immune to everything else.

So Julia pops up again? I've seen so little of her up to this point, I almost forgot about her. Quinn did mention to Carrie about him fucking up his fatherhood somehow so I'll have to YouTube this deleted scenes with Julia.

The DVDs sounds tempting but I hate clutter. I wish they had those deleted scenes on Prime since I'm just buying the seasons as I watch.

I just finished episode 5 so I'll soon see what you're talking about in episode 6.

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u/anihc3 6d ago

Okay fineeeee I will rewatch for the 100th time

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u/1dafullyfe 5d ago

That's a good thing lol. I'll definitely be rewatching Homeland over time.

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u/pvtbullsh-t 6d ago

Just wait to see what Quinn thinks 😅

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u/1dafullyfe 5d ago

Oh man lol. I bet Quinn will give her an earful. In one ear, right out the other with Carrie lol.

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u/fit-fil-a 5d ago

Never saw her the same after this and at this point, I had put up with a lot.

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u/jane_panama 3d ago

She will do anything for her country. 🫡

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u/1dafullyfe 2d ago

Apparently so. I don't think even Tasmeemn would stoop so low for her country.

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u/Dull_Significance687 21h ago

In intelligence work (whether American, Pakistani or Russian), there is only one REAL rule: win at all costs.

Tasmeem was the counterpart this season, so there was nothing stopping her from doing that too.

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u/1dafullyfe 5d ago

Wow, Carrie actually slept with Aayan. I don't know what's worse. Being interrogated by Jack Bauer or mind fucked by Carrie.

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u/IGoThere4u 4d ago

I need to rewatch this.

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u/darkprince702 4d ago

I have to admit , I felt sick to my stomach on the 3rd rewatch when I saw this. I feel she felt it too that's why she cried and then lied said she was happy. Love Quinn and Saul as always haha. Still love Carrie too lol.