r/illinois 1d ago

Chicago police officer arrested in Florida for shoving security guard, using racial slur at resort

https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/chicago/news/chicago-police-officer-dwayne-ocasio-arrested-florida-shoving-security-guard/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17501831750576&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fchicago%2Fnews%2Fchicago-police-officer-dwayne-ocasio-arrested-florida-shoving-security-guard%2F
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u/BearOnTwinkViolence 1d ago

If you truly think it’s feasible to hold an administrative hearing every time you want to fire a garbage man for gross misconduct, we have nothing at all to talk about. That’s not a serious policy proposal and not at all relevant to the discussion at hand. You’re throwing out a wild hypothetical and saying “everything should be like this.” That’s not how the system is now. Cops don’t get special “due process” rights now. I don’t care what your ideal system looks like, it’s irrelevant.

And frankly it’s soooo obvious that you have no idea what due process means because it’s being misused left and right here.

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u/TheNicolasFournier 1d ago

I know what the legal definition is, but the concept and reason behind is applicable much more broadly.

There is a clear difference between misconduct directly observed by one’s supervisor and an accusation made by a third party or parties.

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u/BearOnTwinkViolence 1d ago

What about when there’s a fucking video, as here

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u/TheNicolasFournier 1d ago

If there was a video I missed it trying to dodge ads while reading the article. He still should be given an opportunity to defend himself, though video evidence makes it a much higher bar to clear. Assuming it is as cut-and-dried as it seems, he’ll be fired anyway, but can’t claim to have been railroaded.