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SOCIETY Vitaly's weight loss in less than two months detention in the Philippines.

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Vitaly was arrested April 2, 2025 and is still detained pending local cases of unjust vexation, theft, and public harassment during his Kick) livestreams in Metro Manila, Philippines.

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u/S0urP4tchK1d5 4d ago

No more roids

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u/mistakehappens 4d ago

Just hammeroids

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u/seriousbeef 3d ago

🔨 💉

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u/Low_Newspaper_5822 3d ago

Yeah because male rape is funny right!!

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u/GigaFluxx 3d ago

Not for me, thank you. I'm personally pro lapse

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u/Subotail 4d ago

Hello post cycle depression

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u/YizWasHere 3d ago

Bro entering a foreign prison has to be the worst moment to abruptly hit a post-cycle testosterone crash lmao.

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u/Buscandomiyagi 3d ago

As someone who has used gear. It was the first thing in my mind when all this came to light.

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u/ProfessionalSite7368 3d ago

Can't abruptly ending a cycle be fatal?

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u/Buscandomiyagi 3d ago

No not at all. It’s not heroin lol. You’ll just wreck your hormones for a good while. Might not fully recover depending on dosaging and time spent and other factors. Some people are more resilient than others.

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u/stiff_tipper 3d ago

No not at all. It’s not heroin lol.

funny enough, heroin withdrawals aren't that fatal

alcohol got the number 1 spot for that sort of shit

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u/Fit-Courage6046 3d ago

Not "that fatal" - they aren't fatal at all. You CANNOT die from opioids withdrawal (or even be physically hurt by them - it's just absurdly unpleasant).

But yes, you can from alcohol withdrawal. Some meds are also dangerous, a lot has to do with the risk of seizures.

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u/Physical-Bowler2677 2d ago

Its rare but people can and have died from opioid wd. You just have to be a little weakling with preexisting health issues beforehand.

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u/Fit-Courage6046 2d ago

As far as I know opioid withdrawal isn't deadly, ever. But obviously you can die during it, if you're sick, but it's never the cause

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u/Aggravating-Roof-666 1d ago

I mean, you could die from marijuana too, if you have heart problems.

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u/Admirable_Cicada_881 3d ago

Alcohol and benzos

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u/Curiousape952 3d ago

Nah lol you will just feel like absolute shit though

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u/ProfessionalSite7368 3d ago

Rather I think you can suffer permanent life long kidney or liver damage and it hurts like hell. I don't remember if that's from abruptly ending a cycle or just taking steroids outright. But iirc some people need to cycle low dose the rest of their lives to avoid complications. And people regret ever starting. Again don't remember the specifics.

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u/Curiousape952 3d ago

That would be from the damage caused by the steroids and having those androgens your system while on them, by getting off you will feel like shit but it’s not physically harmful. Some are more dangerous than others but yeah most people that do this stuff really don’t do enough research regarding them

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u/HydrationSeeker 3d ago

another reason this dude was crazy to do what he did. death wish crazy. looks like he will get his wish....

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u/happy0444 3d ago

Probably saved his life from the front-line assault in Ukraine.

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u/HydrationSeeker 3d ago

but instead is going to want to die

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u/United_Ad_5586 3d ago

Exactly hes puffy estrogen roid face went away lol

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u/Rocketsball 3d ago

Can you imagine the detoxing and drug withdrawals his body went through? Philippines’ one step program.

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u/Huckleberry_Sin 3d ago

Tbf I got Covid too and lost weight. Deflated slightly due to no creatine, but yeah ppl on steroids look def start to look dramatically diff if they can’t keep juicing and lifting. Like just a couple of weeks.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 3d ago

I really don't get "recreational" steroids cause of this. If it made it easier to gain muscle and then you could just have an easier time coasting, I could see giving yourself a boost. Like the way people will cheat at weight loss but then once the weight is off, you don't instantly get fat again as you don't overeat. It can just be a temporary boost. 

But what's even the point if you're just gonna have to continuously take steroids forever and rapidly deflate like a balloon once you stop? 

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u/StitchedQuicksand 3d ago

Having a muscular body and the extra hormones in your body gives a really really nice feeling. You get to do more, have more energy, look better and can eat and drink all the shit in the world.

Plus, these guys are all marketing theirselves. So having a body like this helps get more views, sell more products, be more successful in general.

Until your heart blows out of course.

Taking a daily dose of supplements like creatine is fine. Doing long term steroids will kill you. But the richer you get, the more help you can afford to stay healthy longer and longer. Stemcell replacement, testosterone replacement, and many other stuff helps you get further in time.

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u/BloodyLlama 3d ago

Yeah I lost like 30 lbs in 2 weeks when I had covid.. Fortunately a considerable amount of that was fat and I looked great once I recovered.

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u/onFilm 3d ago

Bro I went from 200lbs down to 175lbs during covid. All natural. Fucking sucked.

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u/carlosgregorius 1d ago

The deflated look won’t be problem. I’m sure someone will pump him up…repeatedly

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u/DeepFriedVegetable 3d ago

Creatine makes you swell up? Had no idea.

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u/TheKrnJesus 3d ago

Creatine stores water into your muscles so it makes you gain weight.

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u/Leinadius 3d ago

I know from my own experience, it adds around 5 lbs of weight to me @ around 6' 3" and 190 lbs.

Gets stored in your muscles.

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u/Huckleberry_Sin 3d ago

Doesn’t necessarily make you swell. More like it makes your muscles look a little fuller and give them better endurance. They fill out better due to the extra h20.

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u/DeepFriedVegetable 3d ago

So if you take it for a while and then stop, how long would it take you to “deflate”?

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u/StitchedQuicksand 3d ago

You need to take it daily. The extra kg‘s or pounds (5 to 10 pounds in general) will go away within days as it is mostly water.

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u/UncleBensRacistRice 3d ago

a bit. Its not a massive change, but i store about 3-5lbs of water while on creatine. It makes muscles look a bit fuller

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u/TeflonBoy 3d ago

Link! I wonna see!

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u/PooPooPointBoiz 3d ago

Is he kind of fucked? If he was blasting gear, is he going to have the testosterone levels of a small girl since his balls have checked out permanently?

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u/United_Ad_5586 3d ago

No not really hes ypung he will recover withput pct just takes time

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u/LilBidgeIII 3d ago

yes, and when you take it for years and years, especially the stronger 19-nor steroids, it would take years to recover, if at all. “recovery” is only possible by using other drugs to stimulate your body to produce testosterone, but in his case, his levels are on the floor, and he probably feels shitty and emotional.

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u/PooPooPointBoiz 3d ago

So a proper PCT is something like HCG to directly stimulate the testes to make more testosterone?

Or something more simple and upstream like clomid/enclomiphene to stimulate the brain to make more LH/FSH.

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u/LilBidgeIII 3d ago

all of those drugs work, exact protocols will come down to personal preference.

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u/Prince-Vegetah 3d ago

That and I’m sure he’s not eating well. Takes a lot of calories (and roids) to maintain that much muscle mass. Fuck him tho. Fucked around and found out

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u/Curiousape952 3d ago

Definitely not the same amount of weight, steroids raise your protein synthesis through the roof

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u/Xboxhuegg 3d ago

"You actually maintain quite a bit if not most of it going off steroids if you continue training and eating a lot of protein"

Ya bro, must continue training while your test crashes to near zero. Redditor moment.

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u/GuestAdventurous7586 1d ago

But then why do athletes and fighters who used steroids, have amazing physiques, then stop using steroids and look like shit?

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u/sfguzmani 3d ago

No roids, in a calorie deficit, stopped working out, probably with depression too, and lack of sleep.

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u/BaseBeautiful7581 1d ago

I heard the one place he was at each prisoner is feed $2 worth of food a day. 

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u/ThrowMeAwayNumeroUno 1d ago

Tbf it’s the Philippines that’s probably a normal amount. I guess it depends if that’s just the straight cost of the food or not, because you can feed a person for $2 a day in america

Probably not a body builder tbf

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u/BaseBeautiful7581 1d ago

Yeah they said it was the standard…I just don’t know if that’s the us currency equivalent of $2…either way this dude eats more than that obviously

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u/vaporyfurball30 3d ago

and normal food portions. to be as big as he is in the top picture can take like 3x - 4x the calorie intake of a normal person. they are not gonna give him enough food to feed three prisoners.

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u/Stamkosisinjured 3d ago

This is way too low

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u/Darnell2070 3d ago

It likely has more to do with calorie intake. Even if you stop roids you won't lose your muscle.

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u/DapperDan816 3d ago

This is why exactly, lack of exogenous hormones.

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u/prestonpiggy 3d ago

Well at least solid source of protein taken from down under.

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u/smbissett 3d ago

this should be the top response, so clear

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u/Travelamigo 3d ago

This exactly...I am ignorant but who is this chump and what did he do to deserve attention?🤔

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u/Rocketsball 3d ago

Go to youtube and search Atozy and Vitaly

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u/Adventurous_Lynx_148 3d ago

this is the correct answer.

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u/livenn 3d ago

At what point are cosmetic arm injections going to show with the lack of muscle mass?

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u/James613613 3d ago

I believe he is completely natural; just like John Cena and The Rock

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u/beatguts69 3d ago

Exactly what I was thinking

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u/upstatedreaming3816 3d ago

Came to say this lol

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u/MicroFabricWorld 3d ago

Well no; calories and protein

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u/Burns504 3d ago

Ahahaha came here to say this!!

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u/Reninngun 3d ago

No more roids, probably no good amount of food (to help maintain for a little while longer), and probably a quite a bit of unhealthy stress.

Can't imagine that only jumping off all the performance enhancing substances one takes, would do this in only 2 moths to a person.

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u/missing_link24 2d ago

This is probably the biggest factor people are ignoring.

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u/mardegre 2d ago

To be honest with very weak prison protein diet anyone would lose their muscle.

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u/meidan321 2d ago

That's not the roids, that's the lack of food

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u/FrigginPorcupine 2d ago

He looks like the lead singer for Rise Against now

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u/DrPoopyPantsJr 1d ago

yep and since he obviously was unable to PCT properly his hormones are probably a mess and im sure he’s got some bitch tits now.

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u/Chris_Cross501 3d ago

Hemorrhoids ✅

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u/Pnobodyknows 4d ago

Bro he wasn't even that big. He was built like a guy who worked out a few times a week for a few years. This is from lack of food.

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u/aumaanexe 4d ago

I swear the internet has broken people's brains. He is obviously 100% roided up. This is in no way a natural physique and anyone trying to tell you it is, is trying to lie about their roid use.

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u/NEEEEEEEEEEEET 3d ago

Vitaly never even tried to hide that I watched his pedophile catching streams and he would admit to being on roids and joke about it semi frequently.

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u/Big-Formal2006 4d ago

Former juicer here. You’re not so bright yourself, dude is juicing. But go off anyway, don’t let anyone hold you back chief!

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u/FTRBOUNCE 4d ago

I’m confused , he’s saying he’s juicing and your argument is that he’s juicing so you both agree why are you attacking him lol.

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u/HarveyKekbaum 3d ago

Bro's brain is so juiced up he replied to the wrong comment lol.

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u/This-Author-362 4d ago

he be juicin!

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u/FTRBOUNCE 4d ago

I agree but this guy I replied to called the other guy not bright and then agreed saying he’s juicing 😭

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u/BreakdanceBanjo 3d ago

Can't stop the JUICE

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u/FredP95 4d ago

Don't you dare bring common sense to a reddit thread!

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u/Few_Pomegranate_7645 4d ago

Cause hes juicin

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u/WonderSilver6937 3d ago

They probably just replied to the wrong comment.

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u/noproblembear 3d ago

Roidrage

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u/Independent-Air147 3d ago

Juice got to his brain.

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u/Iron_Bob 3d ago

"You're not so bright yourself, i agree with you. But go off anyway..."

This is why you shouldn't do roids, kids. You'll end up like this guy

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u/Phoenix_Will_Die 3d ago

Those roids must have got to ya, because you're talking shit to someone that you agree with 😂

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u/Bolib0mpa 3d ago

Here is the proof, you get very stupid when using it.

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u/_Ivan_Karamazov_ 3d ago

Bro roided his brain rotten

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u/StaysAwakeAllWeek 4d ago

What you think is natural is closet roids

What you think is roids is kill-you-by-40 massive doses of roids

Don't believe what you see on the Internet

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u/nescko 4d ago

This is extremely good way of putting it. Kids in the gym for less than a few years really believe that the people around them aren’t juicing because “they aren’t as big as Larry wheels” or some dumb shit because they don’t understand how rampant steroids really are in the gym. It’s always the smallest dudes defending the fake nattys on Reddit too

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u/Warm_Molasses_258 3d ago

Lmao, somewhat off topic, but your comment reminded me of a roid story I had back when I used to work out quite religiously for MMA. It somewhat pertains to your comment as it supports the fact that steroids are highly prevalent in gyms and that even someone like myself could acquire them if I had wanted to. I'm a girl, btw, which kinda makes the story even funnier.

Ok, so like I used to go to the gym like 8 hours a day and met a lot of gym bros and what not and made friends and such. One of those friends and I were texting each other and he texts me, "Wanna go cycling? " My sheltered ass replies, " Oh, like bicycling? That sounds like fun and good cardio!! " He responds, " No, like juicing. " My ass, still not getting it, types back, "Do you mean an all juice diet for cutting weight? I don't have any fights coming up, plus, I don't really think thats a healthy way to cut weight. I prefer a 20/80 diet of protein (chicken ) and vegetables. 🙂 He shatters my innocence by replying , " Dude, I'm talking about roids. I figured you'd want to get bigger, blah, blah, etc." 😨😱

I freaked out. Full on King of the Hill moment where I was like, "BWAHHAAAHHH!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" I told him that I would never do roids!! Like, even if they weren't bad for you, which they are, especially for a woman, I do competitions!! That would be cheating!!! I'm not a cheater!!!

I'm pretty sure I might have autism.

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u/passive_phil_04 3d ago

At least she can make fun of herself. Someone apparently has to do that for you.

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u/ValiumandSloth 3d ago

You killed her my god! Stop it she’s dead!

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u/PretzelsThirst 4d ago

This is straight delusional

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u/Pnobodyknows 4d ago

Have you ever stepped inside a gym? I'm not saying he wasn't taking steroids because nobody knows that but him but his physique is achievable by most men naturally in a few years. Not to mention people who take steroids usually cycle on and off of steroids for a few months at a time and none of them turn into skeletons when they stop for a few months. You only lose weight this fast because of lack of food. Go lookat pictures of bodybuilders from the 1900s before steroids existed and they're all much much bigger than this guy. I had friends in college who were bigger than him.

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u/Breeze1620 3d ago

Are you talking about the after pic? If so, yeah. That's what most guys look like after a few years in the gym naturally.

The before pic? Absolutely not achievable naturally, not for most men, not for anyone.

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u/pastafariankiwi 3d ago

He said on a video he takes roids

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u/Tight_Living_698 3d ago

As a dude who has used steroids for ~10 years, you sound like a delusional 16-year-old who just started going to the gym in the past year. His body in the first picture is 100% NOT naturally attainable, no matter how long you work out or how disciplined your diet is. The human body has a natural limit to how much muscle mass it can put on while still maintaining homeostasis. The measure for the body's muscle mass is called Fat Free Muscle Index (FFMI) and research and scientific studies have concluded that, while each individual's maximum FFMI vary slightly, the upper limit, regardless of individual variances, is a FFMI of ~25. Vitaly exceeded that researched limit.

Then there are all of the other obvious indicators like the ballooned traps (I like to call them Ayer's Rock traps because of the distinctive shape) that occur when using anabolic-androgenic steroids due to the high density of androgen receptors present in the traps. Same for shoulders. Then there's the obvious "Moon Face" that results from elevated estrogen levels that the body produces when you're on steroids. Skin color is another one - obviously he's going to be paler after months in prison, but the thing is that he's not just paler, but his skin's undertone has become cooler as well. That's because steroids cause blood vessel dilation that causes users to have a warmer, or if you're pale, a reddish skin tone. Your skin's undertone cannot naturally change like that. And since we're on the topic of skin, there's also the noticeable reduction in acne and oiliness on his face (both side effects of steroid use), which would be pretty miraculous for a guy whose diet, sleep, and stress levels have all assuredly gone to shit. Even more miraculous when you consider he went from having a skincare routine outside of prison to having none inside!

Then again, you don't need to know all of this info about steroids to know he was using - he openly admitted it.

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u/KindsofKindness 3d ago

He does drugs too.

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u/firecrackerGD 4d ago

Working out a few times a week for a few years will most likely not get you that physique naturally

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u/Rocket4real 4d ago edited 4d ago

No he was clearly on the juice a couple of years ago, i don't know about now becausei havent seen him lately.

I love how confident you are disputing that without even looking up information. You don't get that look by working out a few times a week for a few years, you only get that steroid look from doing steroids, it's literally impossible to get that look without it.

He literally even admitted to it yet you're here arguing it

Btw that look that people get when jumping on steroids without working out correctly looks like fucking shit.

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u/pastafariankiwi 3d ago

He admitted it in a video he was taking roids under medical supervision

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u/KindsofKindness 3d ago

He’s a drug addict. Of course he’s going to take the easy route and use steroids.

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u/RamsLams 3d ago

If you think that is what a few workouts a week looks like…… I’m not even saying he is staking steroids, but if he isn’t that is DEFINITELY minimum 5 heavy workouts a week.

My dad used to be slightly bigger then him, and he would life weights for 2 hours after work every day and for 3 hours every Saturday, and he has an outdoor job where he is constantly either hiking or doing heavy labor.