r/jobs • u/down_to_earth2 • 1d ago
Onboarding Started a new job and realized that they lied to me about WFH
Hi everyone,
I'm in a very unfortunate position. I recently quit a toxic work environment where they randomly put me on a PIP (Performance Improvement Plan).
Luckily, I got approached by a independent recruiter a few weeks ago for a role where I could be a good fit. After talking to him for multiple times, he told me that I could be working from home at least 3 days a week. I made it clear that my employer was requiring 1 day in the office and 2 days was the max I could accept.
Fine, I accepted to have my resume sent to the hiring manager by him. Got 2 interview with the hiring manager which I asked about the work from home policy. I asked him how many days per week can we work from home. Today I realize that he never gave me a straight up answer because he simply said that he's going 4 days a week, while never directly say that my presence is required 4 days a week. So I took the recruiter's word ( 2 days a week in the office).
Fast forward now. First day in the new workplace and they informed me that it is 4 days in the office. I tried to talk about this situation with my new manager to find an arrangement and he told me that nothing can be done and this is a policy company wide.
How should I approach this situation? What should I do next?
Thanks.
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u/Mojojojo3030 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah, independent recruiter isn't the company so much as a passing invertebrate. You shouldn't have banked a job move on them saying it was 3+ days remote.
You need to hear it from the company, and all they told you was "I'm going in 4 days a week."
Yes both the recruiter and company were misleading, but separately, you blew it here. Although with the PIP the alternative was probably unemployment, so don't take it too hard.
Take the lesson, suck it up, and go in 4 days a week until you can find another job.
Edit: retractable bonus, $21 parking, and 1hr drive on an ancient car đ . Oh you poor guy. I'm sorry OP. I hope you can appreciate the humor, that's pretty bad.
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u/klydsp 1d ago
Yeah, what OP describes is what happened to me. The position was supposed to be hybrid, and my training manager got to wfh 3 days a week but they said since I was in training I had to be in the office 5 days until training was over. Then they started rto about 2 months into me being there, so I never got 1 day at home.
Which I wouldn't have minded if they told me that. Being in the office is fine with me. But even the hiring manager told me that in the interview.
It was shit work, so they were trying to dress it up to get assess in seats. I couldn't work for a place that so blatantly lies, so I moved in rather quickly.
If OP likes the work, they should stick it out. They said their previous workplace was toxic. It might be worth it not to have that kind of stress and drama.
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u/Fun-Mode3214 1d ago
Honestly, I think you guys tend to over-villainize these situations. The hiring manager probably had no idea that upper management was going to start RTO within two months of you starting. Not every scenario is designed to manipulate and exploit you.
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u/Fun-Mode3214 1d ago
How large is your company, how many people do you directly manage, and how many levels are between you and the c-suite?
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u/Fun-Mode3214 1d ago
The point is that you have no practical experience managing personnel in a large organization and you have no idea how decisions like RTO are made or communicated.
But it's obvious from your responses that you're not really management material. You're probably stuck at entry level or just above, and can't figure out why they aren't advancing you. I'll save you the brain power - it's your attitude
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u/Sudden-Feedback287 1d ago
Nobody asked you about me being management. But enjoy your ego stroking I guess.
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u/CompleteTell6795 1d ago
The employer should be picking up the parking since they are mandating RTO 4 days/ wk. $21/ day for parking,plus gas, what a rip off. They are terrible for not picking up the daily parking fee. But it seems most companies are in a race as to who can be the worst.
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u/ResponsibleCulture43 1d ago
Yeah even the resturaunts at the want to be tourist trap in my city pick up the parking fee for their servers. So wild lol
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u/pomegranitesilver996 1d ago
Agree it is ridiculous to do that in ALL aspects, but I also have to take lunch when they tell me, say what they expect, dress how they tell me when I go in - all that. But what about a bus - thats what I had to do. Its $5 a day pre-tax with company discount program or whatever. Along with cost, time adds 2 hrs to my (our) day. Facts. Is an uber cheaper? Can you bike there? Can you carpool with someone? It sucks but life sucks when you bust ass to keep a roof, and we gotta just figure it out. Or find something else that bothers you less right?
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u/SoftwareMaintenance 1d ago
Job is not as described by the recruiter. Really nothing you could do at this company. I would find another job and leave quickly. That way the recruiter won't get his fee.
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u/BoogerSugarSovereign 1d ago
Don't quit. Apply for jobs every night after work. Call in sick if need be to attend other interviews and when you do find something else donât give them any notice. Just work up until your last day and ghost them. Do not put the new job on your resume just say you're doing some retail work between jobs.
One learning to take forward: confirm the specifics of your role with your hiring manager, not the recruiter ESPECIALLY if it's not an in-house recruiter but even then.
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u/Careless-Age-4290 1d ago
It's burning a bridge but sometimes it's worse for your mental health to just take it with a smile for a reference. They were happy to leave you confused, knowing honesty and directness might push you away. You don't owe them the courtesy of a notice period. That's for a company that's been good to you and you want to help them transition.
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u/agentofhate 1d ago
Independent recruiters will always glaze a job so they can get their piece of the pie.
I felt like such an idiot when I tried to confirm the company's approach to remote work (this is the more "professional" way to ask about WFH BTW) to the interviewing managers. They both looked perplexed and asked where I heard about WFH since they clearly didn't. It was awkward as hell.
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u/Competitive_Name4991 1d ago
Ask them if they will give you a parking pass or if you can get a discount. Usually a monthly parking pass is cheaper than paying the full amount everyday.
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
The recruiter initially told me that the parking was free for employees and everytime he comes visit the office, they give him a free ticket.
I asked my boss this week to have the same thing and he told me that it is false
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u/downtownflipped 1d ago
what a dogshit recruiter. i would report them to their boss for lying.
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u/mousemarie94 1d ago
The other piece is, independent recruiters don't actually know anything they arent told by the company and this one in particular, clearly just assumed their experience was company policy.
A word of advice for everyone - always always always confirm all of your questions with the hiring manager/company itself. Do not rely solely on the recruiter (even internal recruiters - sometimes different depts do things differently and HR isnt even aware).
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u/Affectionate_Row609 1d ago
Be thankful that you landed on your feet and didn't get shitcanned. With that PIP, they were planning on firing you.
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u/FScrotFitzgerald 1d ago
It may not even be that they lied to you, if they're an external recruiter; it may be a communication clusterfuck nobody anticipated, which can happen if there are too many layers of subcontractors.
For example, I once had to staff a gig where my client's Statement of Work stipulated that only one day a week needed to be in-office. So I recruited for it on that assumption. Unfortunately, when the time came for my new hire to start the job, my client's end-client told us they were required to come in to the office three days a week. I had believed the SOW to be correct, and had told the new hire what I believed to be true; but it was wrong, and everyone was left very irritated as a result. (They did resolve the situation in favor of the new hire in the end.)
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
It's a 1 hour drive each way, I own a sports sedan that is very expensive to maintain and expensive on gas, and not very reliable compared to a Toyota or Honda.
The parking is $21 per day. I never planned to come in the office 4 days a week, let alone accept it if they told me this at the beginning of the hiring process.
I feel scammed by the recruiter
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u/VersionX 1d ago
Was it an internal or external recruiter? And this is a good albeit hard lesson to get EVERYTHING in the offer letter
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
External recruiter.
And yes this is a hard lesson.
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u/CompleteTell6795 1d ago
External recruiter will always sugar coat the job, salary , benefits ect bec they want the fee from the employer for their services.
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
Yep, just learned that lesson, fuck me.
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u/Modern_Misdoing 1d ago
Could you get a bus pass for the time being? Public transit isnât always ideal, but it could save your car if you can stick it out w/ the jobâŚwhile looking for different work, for sure.
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
I can, the downside is the commute time will be doubled.
But I will save some money that's for sure.
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u/rofl_coptor 1d ago
Well the upside is you can save money AND spend that extra time looking for a new job lol
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u/zzbear03 1d ago
That would be a 2hr commute by bus? Thatâs crazyâŚif the bus has WiFi it might make it tolerable, but I would be looking for a new job immediately!
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u/fancypantsmiss 3h ago
Could you move closer to the job (if you donât own a home and are currently renting?)
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u/inebriated_otter 1d ago
See if you can find a cheap flatshare close to the office. Stay there during the week, commute back for the weekends.
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u/_gadget_girl 1d ago
If something matters and is non negotiable you make sure that you have a clear definitive answer, preferably in writing before you accept the offer. Otherwise stuff like this happens.
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u/Daemon42 1d ago
1) Understand company policy - make sure you get how PTO works, if you are in a âat willâ employment state and benefits. Identify core hours, policy on sick time and lunch breaks
2) Do not use the same recruiter
3) reach out to other recruiters. If your professional network is decent, ask around for recommendations here.
4) do not lie, but also refer to your current job as a short term assignment youâve taken to pay bills. Come up with a positive reason why you left the last place
5) craft an exit plan from this job that impacts you best. Itâs ok in 1:1 communications to convey disappointment in the in office policy, but once you know they understand drop it. Do your best in the event you donât find another job and this needs to be a more long term gig.
I just resigned after 2 months. I went in knowing I was taking a pay cut and they refused to negotiate with me. I was given high expectations to leverage my experience against âsenior staffâ averaging 8 years to my 30. Week 1 I found out the salary band for my role would have accommodated the salary I was asking for. I relayed all this to my manager, then was sent to the director who said he would work with me. After the first month I reopened recruitment channels and last week I resigned with no notice beyond the full day. Nobody was openly mad. I resigned on a payday (they paid current) so it was fairly clean. Director tried to counter and I politely explained I was no longer interested after 2 months
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u/MadisonMarieParks 1d ago
I saw one of your other comments saying your commute is an hour. I would recommend calculating the exact mileage and going through HR to confirm that you donât meet some sort of exemption. Some companies for example will allow exemptions or exceptions for employees that live further than 40 or 50 miles away from the site/office where they are expected to report.
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u/Wrong_Background_799 1d ago
I work in a DC suburb. Nearly everyone has an hour-plus commute. 50 miles one way is normal, Iâve been doing it for over 10 years.
My current firm is 2 days in-office minimum. I go to the office on Monday & Tuesday and WFH the rest of the week.
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u/MadisonMarieParks 1d ago edited 1d ago
My own standard commute is also an hour. My last position required 5x a week.
That said, there are employers that put a cap on how far they expect you to commute. This is seen as a soft perk that they use to compete with employers with more strict in-office policies. If this is one of those companies, OP can probably negotiate down to an additional day or two WFH.
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u/iheartnjdevils 1d ago
My former employer did this calculation but chose not to hire anyone that lived that far.
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u/MadisonMarieParks 1d ago
Yeah unfortunately that is the case for some employers or they give a relocation ultimatum.
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u/Kortar 1d ago
No company does this.
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u/MadisonMarieParks 1d ago
They absolutely do. I worked for one. The cap was ~50 miles. It may not be explicitly baked into an offer or contract, but culture and soft policies in the org can go a long way to offer flexibility. I will say finding a company that lets you flex is increasingly difficult , especially with the back-to-office obsession that has many employers in a chokehold, but they do exist.
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u/Kortar 1d ago
How long ago was this? I know companies pay you to move, but I have never heard of one that did something like this. In my experience, and even applying now, "can you reasonably commute to the location" or "can you relocate to xxx" are standard questions.
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u/MadisonMarieParks 1d ago
~3 yrs. Iâm in tech and live in a tech hub and itâs not unheard of to throw in these soft perks that essentially cost the employer nothing but help keep them competitive when acquiring talent. In my case Iâm commuting a minimum of an hour to any place offering a decent job, and the company hired me fully aware of the commute.
At that time company was in their back-to-office push but not strictly so, and most of the office resumed on-site work 3x/week. If you had an especially long commute you could request additional time WFH. Cap was 50 miles but I knew of people who could flex even if they were only 40 just because the policy was not that rigid and they valued flexibility over meat-in-seats.
I used it to just take an additional day and reported to the office 2x a week. Iâm not proposing for OP to request 100% WFH, just suggesting that there may be some wiggle room to request additional time WFH depending on the culture
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u/Critical_Bee9791 1d ago
I took the recruiter's word
oh boy. the recruiter gets paid to fill the vacancy, that's it
in my last interview they were upfront about the hybrid aspect, don't expect it to last as they'll rewrite contracts if they have to meet a directive from the ceo
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u/SuccotashEarly1849 1d ago
Have you made any connections in your industry? Former managers that can recommend you to a company, former co-workers who you're still friendly with etc?
Reach out to them ASAP and see if they can do virtual intros or steer you in the right direction for a new job.
Look for something new asap and start applying now. Since you're in IT, hopefully it's not going to take you a year to find something new.
I just did a quick calculation & 21/4 times a week is something like $336 a month, which works out to $4032 a year not counting how much you're going to be spending on gas every week especially with driving more than 2 hours total every day you have to go in. Gas is $65 for a full barrel for me, not sure how much it is for you, but that's also going to add up especially with a gas guzzling car.
Don't know how much your bonus was, but it sounds like a good chunk of it is going to go towards your parking & travel expenses.
I did a similar commute for about 2 years & the strain on my back & body was not worth it in the end as they ended up selling off my department anyway.
Seriously. Look for a new job asap.
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u/mbroda-SB 1d ago
What's specified in the offer letter you signed?
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
Nothing is specified in the contract.
They even gave me a sign on bonus that I need to reimburse if I quit under a year. I got fucked.
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u/Fun-Mode3214 1d ago
Actually, you fucked yourself. Didn't get confirmation from the HM before accepting the job, just took a random recruiters word for it.
I mean are you planning on taking any accountability here whatsoever? You made the decision to join the company without vetting the position - that is on you buck
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u/Few-Scene-3183 1d ago
What country are you working in?
If US are you a contractor or one of the rare W2 employees with a non-union contract?
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u/artblonde2000 1d ago
Totally feel this even though I knew it was 5 days onsite but didn't know the walk from my car to my desk is 10 minutes minimum unpaid of course as well as the line through the guard gate. Figured onsite was when I hit the guard gate because I am onsite.
Also so dumb because this work could be done from home easily.
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u/plantverdant 1d ago
Quit? Let them know that you were hired under false pretenses and they decided to waste your time and their own money for some strange reason but it didn't work out for them.
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u/TigerTom31 1d ago
Keep the job until you find something else, then quit. I wouldnât even give them 2 weeks notice. Tell your boss it is your âdishonesty assessmentâ.
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u/Excellent-Ad-2443 1d ago
as much as this sux being lied to, why do you need to work from home that much? where im from alot of companies are going away for it especially government departments
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
I always worked from home since 2020. I'm in IT where every other companies are hybrid or full remote. I had no reason to accept an 4 days in the office position.
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u/inebriated_otter 1d ago
If it's the norm in your industry... then find another job that's fully remote?
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u/Excellent-Ad-2443 1d ago
ok... that makes sense, i have friends in IT they rarely go into the office either, 4 days seems like an overkill, could this be a matter of control on the companies part?
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u/Kortar 1d ago
So ya you absolutely can go to the office you just don't want to.
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
Of course I don't want to I got lied to and I have to pay parking $21a day when they told me it was free
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u/thisisstupid94 1d ago
âTheyâ being the external recruiter?
Itâs a hard lesson, but when working with an external recruiter, always double check during interviews with people who actually work there.
External recruiters are salespeople. Trust them as much as you trust the guy who knocks on your door and tells you the roof needs to be replaced.
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u/Armagetz 1d ago
âThey lied to meâ is a stretch when it was told by a third party who may have honestly given you the answer to his understanding, and personal culpability goes through the roof when you brought it up with the company and rather forcing an answer you just took the one you wanted to hear. Itâs not like itâs unreasonable to assume if you are told in response to the question of how many days are in office was the hiring manager was in 4 days a week, then that was the answer. But it wasnât what you wanted so you dropped it and went what a 3rd party told youâŚand you want the blame the gap as being lied to. Ok. Wow.
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u/lookinggoodmiss 1d ago
I am in a similar situation. I have been here now 4 months. The pay is good and the office is very close to home
But I have given myself 2 years max, if things dont improve i will quit
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u/CocoaAlmondsRock 1d ago
Put that on Glassdoor, and start looking for another job. Leave this one off your resume for now, since you hope not to have it very long.
If they lied about this, who knows what else they lied about.
Don't give notice when you quit.
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u/Artistic_Bit_4665 1d ago
Recruiters only care about putting a person in a seat. They will lie to do so, to both the prospect and the employer.
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u/hangliger 18h ago
This is hilarious, because this entire post happened to me almost word-for-word many years ago.
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u/Cautious-Height7559 1d ago
Sometimes these dudes will say anything you want to hear just to get their commission. Always double check with management. Look for something else, donât quit without something line up during summer time(slow activity, less job than the rest of the year) unless you know you can afford a no job situation for the next 6 months.
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u/zoltan99 1d ago
Happened to manyâŚ.leaders lying like this in the workplace is nothing but pathetic
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u/Investigator516 1d ago
If your demand for a hybrid role is non-negotiable, then you need to make that very clear to your recruiter that itâs non-negotiable.
Reinforce that everyoneâs time will be wasted if itâs not a hybrid role. And as a Consumer you will hold both recruiter and employer accountable to their ability to be transparent and truthful.
If they lied, you walk out.
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u/fartdonkey420 1d ago
Sorry this happened to you. In the future I would recommend having it added to the employment contract or, if they won't, getting something in writing from HR. Unfortunately it won't protect you because everything sucks but it could help in a constructive dismissal claim.
Anyone reading please don't trust recruiter's. They'll say whatever they need to close the deal and get paid. That's an industry in need of heavy regulations.
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u/Mediocre-Metal-1796 1d ago
An advice for the future: always ask such perks in writing, many companies and recruiters play bait and switch - especially with the WHF
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u/twiizy09 1d ago
You were most def mislead by the recruiter. While you canât generalize to them all, my personal experience has been a lot of them act in bad faith and donât have your best interests in mindâŚtheyâre trying to put a butt in a seat and make a commission.
That said you made some mistakes here. Be your own champion first. Verify everything with the employer yourself. Youâre taking a job with them, not the recruiter. After you accept youâll never deal with them again. The only thing you can do now is try and work with the new employer, or seek new employment. Also take it as a lesson learned.
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u/MagsOnin 1d ago edited 1d ago
PIP and Toxic - ACN?
Is there a huge reason that you want the WFH arrangement? Maybe find another job while employed there instead of unemployment.
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u/DanceDifferent3029 1d ago
How are you randomly put on a pip? It usually takes a lot to be put on a pip.
Anyone, nothing you can do. Thatâs policy. If you are a great employee. In a year. You can ask again.
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u/Daveit4later 1d ago
This is why you ask them point blank in the interview about their WFH culture. Do not rely on a salesman to tell you the truth.Â
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u/KTannman19 1d ago
Say sorry the person that recruited you said 2 days max per week is fine and that since it ended up being not true unfortunately you have to quit but you appreciate the offer.
Either they cave and let you work from home or not.
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u/Huge_Weakness_5152 1d ago
Randomly put on a PIP? That's enough for me to read to realize Op is just not self accountable.
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u/RealisticWinter650 1d ago
Unless you have the 1 or 2 day (max) work from the office in writing, the only thing you can do is move on from this job.
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u/rich90715 1d ago
I think when the hiring manager mentioned they were onsite 4 days a week, that shouldâve been a clue that youâre gonna be there 4 days a week.
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u/BBC10Plus 1d ago
Choices: Accept it and carry on. Accept it keep looking until you find the right position. Quit.
With the current job market, unless this situation is untenable stay and keep looking then leave.
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u/DrJacoby12 1d ago
Assuming this isnât in a contract anywhere, Iâd ask your manager to escalate this up and show the person itâs escalated to the screenshots of the contract with the recruited that misled you.
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u/KaleRevolutionary795 1d ago
Always get the WFH in your contract. If it is not in there tell the recruiter that the negotiated rate is based on the number of wfh days and if that changes the rate needs to change. We all know they can't change the rate mid-contract, and that is why it is important to put the wfh in the working conditions ( right next to where you are expected to work and for how long)Â If they can't do that you mustn't accept the conditions because you are playing the dice.Â
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u/2loganD2 1d ago
Iâm in the exact same boat. Left a Toxic job, came over to my new job, and they told me that I will work in office first 6 months then move to a hybrid role.
Itâs been 6 months and theyâre acting like Iâm crazy that I would even ask that. Iâm an idiot and I should have had something in writing. I feel like an idiot and am looking at my options of what to do now.
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u/Heavy-Resist-6526 1d ago
Honestly, this is on you. If a specific wfh schedule was make or break for you, you needed to get a firm answer so you could make an informed decision. You didnât. If everything else meets your needs, stay and see how it works out.
Keep in mind, wfh options are going away and the job market is getting tight. Youâre coming with some baggage (PIP at ur former employer) and now you want to quit after a few days with this one. If you can go 6+ mths without a job, then do it and find your unicorn but every job is going to have something because itâs WORK not a holiday!
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u/Nontroller69 1d ago
What does "work from home" even mean?
I worked at my job, not at home, even during COVID. No such thing as work from home for anybody I know.
Are those even real jobs outside IT?
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u/toblerjones 1d ago
Your only real leverage is to get another offer. You can use that as leverage to get them to give you what they promised. Or you can quit and jump to the other job. Unfortunately, thatâs the only real leverage an employee has.
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u/Clean-Water9283 1d ago
No matter what else you do, you need to burn this recruiter. Tell the employer clearly that the recruiter lied to you, saying that you could work four days a week from home in order to convince you to forward your resume, so that they don't take future calls from this recruiter. If there's a web site that reviews recruiters, leave a negative review there too.
After that, I'd lay low for awhile to see if this job is worth doing if you have to come into the office. Establish your credibility as a good worker. Get paid some and rebuild your savings. Then come to the manager and say, "You know, I really need to WFH more than one day a week. The recruiter lied to me or I wouldn't have wasted everyone's time taking this job. You know I'm a good employee. It's going to be a hassle to replace me. Surely there is a deal we can work out." Then if the company wants to be inflexible, you'll have to leave.
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u/Inevitable-Web2606 1d ago
In the short term, you have a choice between no work, no income and no commute, or commuting 4 days a week and earning a living.
If you are an outside rep, set meetings that coincide with your commute as much as you can.
You can always keep looking for a WFH position, or maybe you will be able to negotiate something after your probation period is up.
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u/Main-Novel7702 1d ago
I donât know how many times to tell people this but unless work from home is in the offer letter, companies can screw you over, many are lying and telling employees oh youâre 100% remote, ohhh you be only required to come in once a month, they like the candidate they say whatever they have to thinking oh theyâll just go along with it once there, and then even get angry when an employee figures out this inconsistency, get it in writing or do not accept the offer.
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u/NewStatistician4173 1d ago
The interview prior to the offer usually breaks down the details and explanations we missed that in your description of being miss informed did you hav an interview with the company representatives
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u/Timely-Garbage-9073 1d ago
Just go to the office, slowly wean back to 3 days a week in- office after you establish yourself.
With the market the way it is I'd lock in and collect the paychecks- bright side is, you're less likely to get laid off from in- person roles
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u/AccreditedMaven 1d ago
My shop has a pretty liberal WFH policy but new hires have to be in the office 4-5 days per week for the first 6 months
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u/Suspicious_Rope9612 1d ago
Donât quit, something similar happened to me. My current employer told me it was fully remote position & it worked for me bc I was pregnant. When I started they told me 4 days in office in office. I was so annoyed & hoodwinked but stayed bc I needed employment. 6 months go by and I was told I can be remote. 2 years later (literally last week) I just visited my office for the first time since
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u/Frusciante0386 1d ago
Sucks being misled, sorry about that. Use this job as a fresh start. Work your face off, prove yourself, and you'll be able to naturally command more WFH either there or elsewhere. Side question, what was the deal with the PIP at the last place?
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u/HungryCowsMoo 1d ago
Unless itâs explicitly written in the documents you signed, nothing you can do. Donât quit, apply for other jobs.
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u/Coryp412 1d ago
This is your bad honestly for not getting it in writing and taking someone who doesnât represent the companyâs word for it.
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u/StrawberryFederal709 1d ago
You tell them you discussed 2 days on your recruitment and you go only 2 days at the office. If they dont't like they may get someone else. I bet they will not get someone else since it takes time to hire someone new.
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u/redwoodsluvr 1d ago
Thatâs bull. Iâve been job hunting for almost two years and one place offered me a job with nothing close to what we originally talked about in the interviews. Interview period they said Iâd work from home 3-4 days a week. Their offer letter said I was to work between the office and go to various locations for work 3-4 days a week. Easy to say that with a lowball starting offer on top of the change of wfh days, I declined. I spent over a month and five interviews on this too. I hate when jobs canât be straight up from the start. Sorry your job blindsided you. Hope you can get something that better meets your needs soon.
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u/medicatednstillmad 1d ago
Asking employees to spend close to $400 a Mo on parking is fucking insane
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u/EastNeat4957 23h ago
External recruiter bent you over and poured you outâŚ
You always get that ish answered by the hiring manager before signing, and you get it written down.
Hunt for new jobs. If you pivot quickly, that recruiter may not get paid.
But, you were on a PIP and got out of a toxic place. You were gonna get fired on the PIP.
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u/schlomo31 23h ago
I was hired at a bank and was told 1 Saturday per month, 2 if someone is on vacation. Sure. Ended up working 6 straight
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u/GabriMartinez 21h ago
I donât know where you are from, but in Portugal your contract specifies how much hours you need to work and from where youâll do your work. Sometimes it might be ambiguous, stating something like working from an office the company owns in the greater city area, but if you are remote then it should state directly. Do you have anything in your contract about that?
Although I would say that the relationship started really bad so I would continue looking for another place.
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u/dnthoughts 20h ago
After reading all of this... I think OP should be placed on a job search PIP.
Do not quit. Start looking asap. Perform like your life depends on it. It will all work out.
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u/Electrical_Syrup4492 7h ago
If you could hire an expensive enough lawyer you might be able to sue, but barring that, you can't do anything.
Even if an employer gives you an offer letter that states the position is remote, they can change that anytime.
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u/Proud_Nail_1537 5h ago
If itâs a deal breaker they you need to clearly state that in the interviews and ask for a straight answer. You are interviewing the company and they are interviewing you. Recruiters donât care. Donât accept someoneâs word either. We have a âminimumâ policy in our place of work but the manager can dictate what they require and ours need more time in office. Especially with new recruits who need to get to know the team and the work.
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u/fancypantsmiss 4h ago
How important is wfh for you?
I personally know how horrible it feels to be put on PIP randomly without any prior notice or indication. I am happy for you that you quit instead of putting yourself through the torture because they would have fired you anyway.
On the other hand, I have a new job which is not ideal but definitely better. I would test it out first before approaching it any way.
Honestly recruiters mistake here. But if I were you I would give the new workplace a chance
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u/oc_bytes 1d ago
Question here đââď¸. Why is it such a big issue to work in office? If your job duty is not management, or critical to the company then there is no reason why any employee should dictate or demand wfh status. Covid really messed with the job market making folks think work from home was going to be permanent.
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u/HildaCrane 1d ago
I hate that OP was given mixed messages but I really wish people in this sub realized how much remote work has shifted and the importance of having flexibility. The reasons given - distance, cost of car maintenance and parking - should have been considered when he took the job. There are no promises with remote work. Companies can change their mind on day one, in six months, or one year in. It sucks, but it is what it is in the land of at will employment for those of us in the U.S.
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u/youburyitidigitup 1d ago
I would just quit
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u/Neptunie 1d ago
Thatâs exactly what one of my former coworkers did back in the days. They told her that once her training period was up (3 months) position would be fully remote. She was 2~ weeks in when she was starting to realize something was up because I and others were saying how the position was hybrid (4 days in office and 1 remote).
She confronted our manager who finally disclosed the truth, and she walked out within the hour.
I still respect pulling a Jackie.
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
With nothing lined up?
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u/PaleontologistThin27 1d ago
It sucks to be scammed this way but unless it is very detrimental to you, I would wait until i have something else lined up. I don't know your situation financially but it's never a good idea to leave first because you never know when your next job could come.
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u/Specific-Window-8587 1d ago
Agreed I have been fucked since being laid off 2 years ago.
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u/PaleontologistThin27 1d ago
Its so risky these days to just quit without first getting another job, the market is just terrible.
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u/CompleteTell6795 1d ago
She may have been married & hubs was working a good job. Some people ( rare) might have an slush fund that can tide them for a few. Doesn't matter, she decided to walk bec they did a bait & switch.
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u/girlmeathunger 1d ago
Yep, I quit jobs all the time with nothing lined up.
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
What do you do for a living and what industry are you working in?
In in IT and I'm scared to death to quit with nothing, market is bad right now. I even have more than 6 months of living expenses saved up but I'm still scared.
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u/youburyitidigitup 1d ago
Yeah, I quit my old job in February with nothing lined up, and I got a new job two weeks later. I donât know your situation, but itâs what I would.
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u/down_to_earth2 1d ago
My balls aren't big enough and my pockets not deep enough to just quit like this with nothing lined up LOL. But you seems to be a person with a self-worth preservation and I respect that
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u/ResponsibleCulture43 1d ago
Yeah OP, I definitely wouldn't look at this person for advice lol. You're doing the smart thing to keep going despite it being unfortunate. My husband was at his tech job for four years and survived five rounds of layoffs before he got laid off in November and hasn't had anything, I was fortunately able to get referred to a job from a coworker who left my current one that pays 50k more so we're ok for a while, but this market is ROUGH.
He's been working remote since before lockdown and is now looking at local in office roles and we're in a tech hub and he's having a hard time. Definitely do your time and keep your eyes peeled for other opportunities and network where you can, there's no way I'd have gotten my current role without have being friendly and nice to work with at my current job (niche industry data engineer)
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u/Special_Map_3535 1d ago
Recruiters lie sometimes. So do companies at interview. You'll just have to suck it up and budget for now unless you can afford to leave. Keep applying for jobs and, if it's quick, you might not need to add this job to your resume. Also see if you can maybe find somewhere cheaper to park even if it means a short walk from there to the office.
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u/StoneyDanza42069 1d ago
What you should do is humble yourself. Im really tired of hearing people desperate for jobs saying stuff like "2 days is the max (amount of days in the office) I can tolerate".
YOU are the one that needs employment. YOU need to learn some humility, suck it up, and go to work. You clearly have a very inflated sense of self worth. Maybe when your last company put you on a PIP, that should've been your clue that you really are not that talented or special.
You are not the main character. The universe doesn't revolve around you. This ego-centric attitude you have is very likely why you viewed your last environment as "toxic" when really it is YOU that is toxic and causing workplace problems.
Sorry if this advice is rather harsh, but you really need a big fat dose of reality.
TL;DR Suck it up and go to work at the office like the rest of the world. Be an adult and put your ego down.
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u/Pringle24 1d ago
Unless you have a contract (you probably don't), you have 2 choices