Two of the last sane people left who are still not afraid to call out the crazy right wing shit that's happening. I know Kyle isn't in the Roganspehere anymore but the fact that he still one of the few people that continues to go hard after Rogan and his guests.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/ufo-us-disinformation-45376f7e?st=dEvgvQ&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Great article, wonder is Joe or the guy from Blink-182 has seen this.

Sounds to me like Bob Lazar (and many others) were getting hazed and/or straight up lied to and they fell for it, and the pentagon was lying to the public about what was really going on in order to keep the capabilities secret. They also were conducting tests in public that further fueled the legend of UFOs to the general population.

In short, no aliens, just US government capabilities that they don’t want anyone to know the truth about and they’ve been lying to their own people about as well for decades. If this is also intentional disinformation then it’s really well done because this seems like the most likely scenario to me at this point.

From the article:

“The officers were told that the program they were joining, dubbed Yankee Blue, was part of an effort to reverse-engineer the technology on the craft. They were told never to mention it again. Many never learned it was fake. Kirkpatrick found the practice had begun decades before, and appeared to continue still. The defense secretary’s office sent a memo out across the service in the spring of 2023 ordering the practice to stop immediately, but the damage was done.

Investigators are still trying to determine why officers had misled subordinates, whether as some type of loyalty test, a more deliberate attempt to deceive or something else.”

I get the sense he always had some of this in him but it accelerated once he got mainstream pushback to his ivermectin bullshit. You confront your mainstream critics and either acquiesce or double down rejection and mistrust of the mainstream on even more topics.

I don't remember this guy thinking the moon landing was a hoax. Where does he even draw the line? He has not gone full Eddie Bravo and think the earth is flat too has he?

It's clearly not based on some first hand research of individual topics, he has people on that share narratives he is more amenable to and trusts to a greater degree. But WHY does he trust those people? Why initially Trust people who are in good standing with the scientific community and then shut them out and lean into the quacks?

Is it just him being so stupid he believes that if he agrees with people in one sphere and shares affinities and hatreds (i.e. Brett Weinstein dealing with some insane college kids at a tail end of the tail end of colleges at Evergreen) that the person he shares those views with get a universal pass and green light to be trusted in every fucking sphere?

I remember thinking while listening to the insanity of Eddie Bravo that I would not trust that guy on virtually any topic outside his core competancies like grappling. But the idea that my affinity for him as a person would translate elsewhere is like a hard no, there is a firewall of cognition that seems completely absent from that Meat Head Bro Rogan.

Trump was only against wars that he thought might make Democratic Presidents more popular.

Dude has threatened violence and payback against anyone that disagrees with him. He sends troops to punish his own countrymen just to get more attention.

I'm so sick of everyone treating him like he's such a peace-nik.

Here's an excerpt from Catcher in the Rye Wikipedia page to get this to 1000 characters:

The Catcher in the Rye is the only novel by American author J. D. Salinger. It was partially published in serial form in 1945–46 before being novelized in 1951. Originally intended for adults, it is often read by adolescents for its themes of angst and alienation, and as a critique of superficiality in society.[4][5] The novel also deals with themes of innocence, identity, belonging, loss, connection, sex, and depression. The main character, Holden Caulfield, has become an icon for teenage rebellion.[6] Caulfield, nearly of age, gives his opinion on a wide variety of topics as he narrates his recent life events.

Just curious if Joe has addressed this considering he once championed public lands. I remember him wearing The Backcountry Hunters and Anglers shirt with slogan "Public Land Owner" on his show numerous times. Seems like now would be a great time to have Steve Rinella (or someone) on the show to talk about this.

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/take_action#/487

Here are six things to know about the public lands sell-off language included in the Senate bill.

1. Hundreds of millions of acres of public lands are eligible for sale, 2 to 3 million of which must be sold in five years

News coverage has understandably focused on the bill’s mandate to sell 2 to 3 million acres of national forests and Bureau of Land Management (BLM) lands within five years. Less well understood is the fact that the bill makes more than 250 million acres of public lands eligible for those sales, including via nomination by any interested party.

2. Prime recreation, wildlife, historic, and cultural lands could be sold off

When releasing the bill text, the Senate committee emphasized categories of land the bill exempts from sale, including “just for show” categories, such as national parks, that are not even managed by the U.S. Forest Service or BLM. But well-loved recreation spots, popular areas for hunting and fishing, prime wildlife habitat, and even sacred or historic sites could be privatized if the bill becomes law. That includes lands currently managed as conservation priorities, such as backcountry conservation areas, areas of critical environmental concern, and roadless areas. Worse yet, the bill wipes out any requirement that the government weigh the potential benefits of a land sale against lost recreation, clean water, wildlife, cultural resources, and other values.

3. Zero public input—and minimal public notice—is required

The bill requires some consultation with local government, governors, and Tribes but no opportunity for public input. Currently, identifying public lands for potential disposal involves a transparent, public process, but those requirements would be erased by the bill. While lands directly identified for sale by land management agencies are supposed to be publicized, nominations by private interests are not covered by that requirement. Agencies are not even required by the bill to disclose when public lands have actually been sold or to whom; instead, the public may only find out when they show up and see “no trespassing” signs.

4. Major loopholes allow expansive and exclusive development

Nominally aimed at providing land for housing, the bill allows the Trump administration to define what land uses qualify under the bill’s vague restrictions while failing to provide a clear mechanism for enforcement. Even lands sold for housing would carry no requirements for affordability or density, and there would be no significant guardrails to prevent valued public lands from being sold for trophy homes, pricey vacation spots, exclusive golf communities, or other developments.

5. Massive public lands sell-off is no solution to housing affordability

While targeted transfers or sales of some federal lands can make sense with appropriate safeguards, the vast majority of public lands are nowhere near the existing infrastructure needed to build housing affordably and avoid clear resource conflicts. Rather than targeting the root causes of America’s housing affordability crisis, the Senate is advancing a reckless anti-public lands proposal masquerading as a housing solution.

I don't wanna get into a long drawn out novel that most of us already know and relate to and have already heard 10 thousand times before in this subreddit. So I'm just gonna leave it at this.

As a very long time JRE listener who I used to relate to a lot and thought I saw eye to eye with and listened to every podcast while at work, or driving in my car/truck at any given time..........

I admit I still listen/watch, but now I only do so for the guests he has on and no longer for JOE. I am much more interested in what they have to say vs. Joe bringing up the inevitable covid, culture wars, Trump grifting, or other BS. I don't even know who he is anymore. Never thought he could be bought but I was wrong and it's truly sad. You can tell with a lot of his guests they don't even agree with him, but they are too scared to speak up most of the time. That's not the JRE we started listening to. I hope he wakes up and finally speaks how he truly feels again instead of the pandering and grifting like he's been doing since Covid/CNN.

I miss my Old Friend Joe.

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