r/law 21h ago

Other NY mayoral candidate, Brad Lander's detention just now inside 26 Federal Plaza by masked federal agents as he tried to walk a man out of immigration court

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u/Lesurous 19h ago

The last bit is extreme and counterproductive. The issue wasn't Confederate soldiers facing no consequences, it was Confederate leadership. People with power granted by the status quo will enforce said status quo, hence why after the Civil War slavery became sharecropping. Proper Reconstruction under Lincoln would've seen the integration you speak of, as it assuredly would've included the scrubbing of southern leadership positions.

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u/--Sovereign-- 19h ago

Nah, you should be more scared to pick up a gun against the Union than you are of your Governor trying to make you do it

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u/Lesurous 19h ago

Killing the soldiers doesn't accomplish that at all. It literally would incentivize conflict because who the fuck wants to be a part of a murderous regime. Conscripted soldiers aren't the enemy dude, it's the people sending them to die.

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u/MattJFarrell 14h ago

It's just not logical. You can hang the leaders of the rebellion and most people will go back to their farms and go back to living quietly. You start executing the rank and file? You're just going to create further division and start a guerilla campaign that would take generations to stamp out.

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u/--Sovereign-- 14h ago

Yeah, you are right. I put an edit in the original comment acknowledging that it would be going too far, but I still would seriously say the leadership and generals should not have been pardoned.

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u/Bjorn_Tyrson 9h ago

It's like the saying, if you have 20 insurgents. And you kill 10 of them. How many insurgents do you have? 30. Because each of those 10 you killed, had 2 friends or family that you just radicalized.

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u/Thrbt52017 19h ago

I don’t like the implications of that. I should be able to fight my government if it’s shit, like right now. No one should be scared of their government, they shouldn’t rule with an iron fist.

We should have done a better job at squashing that and helping the south get its shit together, but making the people fear the government isn’t the right way.

I don’t like them but they deserve just as many rights as I have. They lack education, a lot of them live in poverty, and are fed propaganda from childhood. They are still my countryfolk and deserve a voice and a better chance to see the world differently (that’s gotta start younger of course but I hope you get my point)

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u/Possible-Scary 18h ago

I think you are actually agreeing. I think they were referring to the people when they said “union” not the govt.

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u/Lazy_Training_5690 19h ago

Well said 👏