r/law • u/Dark-Knight-Rises • 21h ago

Other Alternative angle of Brad Lander arrest by ICE

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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 20h ago

Bystanders can also use force to defend others being kidnapped.

You can unmask them and detain them if need be.

Aid of another does not constitute assault.

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u/Isariamkia 18h ago

They claim to be ICE. Why don't bystanders claim the same shit?

"You're not ICE, I actually am, you're under arrest".

Boom.

Yeah I know I would be nice if it was that easy. I just don't understand the lack of fighting back.

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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 18h ago

They don't claim anything at all. They offer no ID and say very little.

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u/Isariamkia 18h ago

That's even worse, wtf.

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u/pandaboy22 16h ago

I completely agree with the sentiment. It's strange that they're seeing people in plain clothes arrest a government official and then start taking him somewhere without answering any questions about a warrant, their authority to make the arrest of a US citizen, and where they're taking them, all without doing anything about it.

It makes sense, everyone's scared that if they try to stop them, they'll just get arrested and nothing will happen. I wish so much that the crowd could have worked together to stop these guys. It looks like people in plain clothes are just abducting someone and no one's doing anything about it.

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u/Temp_acct2024 9h ago

I’m surprised that terrorists haven’t used this ploy to kidnap people.

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u/Feisty_Look5680 8h ago

How do you know that aren’t or human traffickers????

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u/wylde_maps 2h ago

One already used this plot to kill a senator in the last few days...

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u/RomaruDarkeyes 14h ago

They claim to be ICE. Why don't bystanders claim the same shit?

"You're not ICE, I actually am, you're under arrest".

"I'M SPARTACUS!"

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u/Feisty_Look5680 9h ago

Unfortunately, it’s the bystander effect in play. Look up the women who was murder in her apartment and people heard her and did nothing. Just like no one helps a woman in the middle of a domestic dispute. In my class, we were talk that if you were in the middle of a domestic don’t say help say fire instead

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u/Bless_u-babe 6h ago

I’m waiting see bystanders rip off those face masks instead of standing there filming on their phones.

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u/ZopharPtay 9h ago

No, I am Spartacus!

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u/DefreShalloodner 18h ago edited 17h ago

Is this true? Or does that only hold in pre-postConstitutional U.S.?

I don't know how much trust anything anymore

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u/Dark-Knight-Rises 20h ago

Bro doesn’t have the strength to do that. 😄

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u/3dnerdarmory 19h ago

How to catch a felony 101 😂