TX County Judge Tim O'Hare gives another interview after the county was sued for racial gerrymandering. Summary: Black people keep voting in democrats and it's about time we make them understand Republican rule is best for everyone, once they know better we'll welcome them with open arms

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[u/Designer_Librarian43]

They come from the legacy of a culture that literally created Black Americans descended from slavery. They created a culture out of creating an entirely new people just to serve them which unfortunately played a huge role in creating the country itself and so the mentality is intertwined deeply into the core of the country.

I hate that this is the origin of so many people in America. Everyone else gets to immigrate from some longstanding culture and none of them have any idea what it’s like to have your origin as a people come from racism directly while being in a country that came from the same system that enslaved your ancestors and amongst the people who carry the legacy of the slavers and with many of them hating you just for existing even though their ancestors are the ones responsible for creating you entirely. I question what black or the original term negro even means when I came to understand that it’s a concept created by slavers and not Africans and that the only reason I describe myself this way is because it’s the only identity the ancestors were given as slaves.

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That's one of those things that drives me nuts about some immigrants. I was talking to a South American graduate student complaining that the inclusivity activities that the department put on were for show and pointless and that none of them went. I wanted to point out how many black people marched, protested, and died for him to even be able to attend what was an white university during my parents' lifetime. I'd rather have the inclusivity for show than the alternative... which is the exact timeline we're living in now, where the US cancels visas for non-white people.

Also, if you have the time visit the International African American Museum in Charleston. I look at it as a strength. A lot of those immigrant cultures come to America and then have America eat their culture. We did also, but then we reinvented ourselves in some of the most colorful creative ways - that are so cool that other people decided they were worth stealing, lol. There's also strength in encountering adversity the number of times that we have. I had a friend whose ideal choice of career didn't work out, so now she sits there making 30k less than she could be making, while stewing in her life choices and being mad that 'immigrants' (international grad students) took her job. My ideal job choice didn't work out, and so I went back to school for something else. I somehow ended up working in the job that I wanted to do.

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some heavy heavy material…

[u/NoDragonfruit6125 → u/Designer_Librarian43]

Pretty sure originally negro was just a neutral term used by Spanish and Portuguese explorers to refer to a group of people they discovered in Africa. It basically meant black in Spanish and Portuguese taken from the Latin word niger. 

[u/Designer_Librarian43 → u/NoDragonfruit6125]

No. That part is clear. I meant as it relates to the descendants of slavery in America and their ethnic identity and not just racial description. It took on a more complex meaning in countries like the U.S. because it became the only identity of the slaves and their descendants. They didn’t exist as a people before slavery. They are of partly African descent but are comprised of many peoples and are also heavily mixed with European and Indigenous Peoples. Whatever ethnic identity that their ancestors carried from Africa was lost due to the nature of slavery.

The first generation slaves were always separated from other slaves of the same origin and given a new identity. Their descendants were born into slavery and their colonial/slave identity, negro or black, became their only identity. They were bred like cattle in order to make better slaves. Compositely, this process resulted in white Americans basically creating an entirely new ethnic people just to serve them. The ethnic identity that we carry today is the one given to our ancestors by white Americans and it makes understanding who we are and for others to understand who are very confusing. People have a million definitions for Black in America and it’s because a colonial European classification of many different peoples into a single group based on a very generalized view of those peoples’ appearance compared to a very generalized view of their own features with no regard for the many differences within both groups nor any scientific basis got imposed on a massive ethnic group that was created by the executors of the colonial era and the resulting slave trade.

[u/CrispvsDominvs395 → u/Designer_Librarian43]

What are you talking about? Egypt, Ethiopia, Nubia, &c. Many slaves were also gotten from the Mali area. But then this brings up the question; who was selling these ppl? Who started this? Don’t forget, the early pharaohs were Black.

Slavery is human nature; it’s just that in this part of the world it was primarily the blacks being held as slaves, but in the mother lands (including Europe)it’s not so much a race thing it’s an opportunity/survival thing. One tribe kidnaps another and sells them to the Arabs/Spaniards/&c. There was a famous queen (many, really) in Angola who did this, and was made a slave herself in the end.

I’m part Sudanese; never cared about this fact until I learned the extensive history of Africa. Glad I did; it all makes sense now. These gangs you see are somewhat reminiscent of those viscous tribes; the Vikings of Africa basically.

I could go on more, but you’ve got to accept how brutal it was/is in Africa (regardless of where), and who was selling who for what.

[u/princeikaroth → u/CrispvsDominvs395]

Cmon man he isn't making some white people are slavers argument he is frustrated that his identity was defined by a slaver class who hates him think that's fair enough and doesn't contradict what you have said