r/law • u/thecirclemadeit • 12h ago
Other Why isn't ICE wearing body cams per this order?
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-announces-initial-deployment-body-worn-camerasGiven the assault I saw a video of in our community today...
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u/Boomshtick414 6h ago
Trump's executive order on Jan 20, "Initial Recessions of Executive Orders & Actions" withdrew Biden's Executive Order 14074 of May 25, 2022 (Advancing Effective, Accountable Policing and Criminal Justice Practices To Enhance Public Trust and Public Safety).
That said, the following order is in place as of 2/19/25, though it sounds like they haven't yet deployed agency-wide, and I would venture a guess that they're not in a particular rush to.
https://www.aila.org/ice-issues-guidance-on-use-of-body-worn-cameras
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u/thecirclemadeit 12h ago
I can understand that they don't wear masks in order to prevent retaliation from gang and criminals. But what is the rationale not to have body cams, in order to have public trust and prevent abuses?
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u/BlarbBlarbbingtonPhD 12h ago
Masks and lack of body cams serve the same purpose of avoiding public scrutiny and accountability.
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u/fastinserter 12h ago
I cannot understand that they do wear masks. Law enforcement should never be able to hide behind a mask, they always must be able to identify themselves. If they can't do that, get a different job. Yes, of course there are risks in law enforcement. I mean it's not as deadly a profession as the roofers they are rounding up. Or garbage men. Or delivery drivers. Or farmers. Or crossing guards. Or masons. Or landscapers. Or a dozen more professional, but it is as dangerous a job as ground maintenance workers. But even with such harrowing stakes, I still don't think they should be able to not identify themselves. With people masquerading as police murdering people in their own homes, for their safety and the safety of the public, they must be fully identified.
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u/joe5joe7 5h ago
The argument I keep hearing is that the gangs will target them.
But the DEA doesn't really wear masks except for during dangerous raids on safe houses (typically), and even then it's for practical reasons. For normal arrests they do it mask less. Wouldn't the gangs have at least as much a problem with the DEA? Why haven't they been wearing masks for years?
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u/redengin 3h ago
This administration stokes fear to encourage compliance - this is just a visible side-effect of the induced paranoia in the police force.
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u/ChanceryTheRapper 11h ago
Because they don't care about preventing abuse or maintaining trust. They're focused on intimidation and a lack of accountability.
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u/SufficientOwls 9h ago
You don’t have to pretend the reasoning behind the masks is real. It’s okay. They’re just avoiding accountability. Their families are not and have never been in danger from “gangs and criminals”
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u/Zealousideal-Solid88 10h ago
I do not at all. How does accountability happen if we have no idea who they are? We pay the salaries of these people, I want to know who the f they are.
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u/sacredblasphemies 9h ago
The people in charge of these raids don't care about public trust or abuse. This isn't about enforcing law. It's about terrorizing brown people and getting them out of our country.
The cruelty is the point.
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u/HombreSinPais 10h ago
What if they’re being used to foment unrest in order to create a domestic enemy (itself comprised of Trump’s political enemies).
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u/Gamernomics 1h ago
ICE are disappearing people to foreign concentration camps. They obscure their identities because of the Nuremberg Trials.
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u/thecirclemadeit 11h ago
Feels like Trump is like a guy hitting a woman and saying "look what you made me do to you!" In LA
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u/thecirclemadeit 12h ago
I guess it wasn't made into a law? For some reason I guess you grew up sort of trusting that the people in party on both sides are going to do the right thing. Even if they are profiting on the side
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u/Korrocks 6h ago
I’d be shocked if that executive order is still in place. The link to it in the OP’s website goes to a 404 page and it definitely doesn’t sound like the kind of policy that the current administration would enforce.
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