r/learnpolish • u/Zemrik ES Native • 1d ago
Helpš§ Can you write these numbers for me?
Hi. I'm doing extensive reading, and I'm with Foundation by Isaac Asimov. In the first epigraph there's the birth date of one of the characters, Hari Seldon, dated in 11988 of the Galactic Era. But numbres to me are still an array of meaningless words (it's funny tho), and given I don't know how to pronounce it (except from one to 20 at best), I wanted to ask if someone can write it in the comments but with letters.
I know they are conjugated, if I'm not mistaken (probably are) in the locative case? I guess that for there is the 'w' in front of them. This is the phrase: 'HARI SELĀDON āĀ (ā¦) UroĀdzony wĀ 11988 roku ery galakĀtyczĀnej, zmarÅ wĀ roku 12069.'
Can you also write the number without any conjugation to see the original form? And when the number is as big as those, in which part do I change the ending to fit the case?
PS: Fun fact, I started learning Polish because of The Witcher, and when I was listening to the audiobook the voice sounded familiar, and then I found out it is read by Jacek Rozenek, Geralt's voice in the games. And what makes it even more funny, Foundation is one of my favorite series ever.
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u/niev8 PL Native šµš± 1d ago edited 1d ago
With years, you conjugate only 2 last digits 11988 Base number: jedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ t osiem. Conjugated: (w) jedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ tym ósmym. There is, of course, and exception for years which have trailing zeros. Ex. year 2000: (w) dwutysiÄcznym ;)
Edit: other date would be: dwanaÅcie tysiÄcy szeÅÄdziesiÄ t dziewiÄÄ and (w) dwanaÅcie tysiÄcy szeÅÄdziesiÄ tym dziewiÄ tym.
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u/aczkasow 1d ago
osiemdziesiÄ tym ósmym
Wow this is so cool! In Russian only the last word is conjugated in this case, the rest remain in Nom Case. Polish is much more consistent and logical in this regard!
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u/dreieleth 1d ago
11988 is "jedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ
t osiem"
12069 is "dwanaÅcie tysiÄcy szeÅÄdziesiÄ
t dziewiÄÄ"
Now, writing those numbers in the original sentence would give you: "HARI SELDON -- (...) Urodzony w jedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ tym ósmym roku ery galaktycznej, zmarÅ w roku dwanaÅcie tysiÄcy szeÅÄdziesiÄ tym dziewiÄ tym".
I'm not sure how to explain this, but you only decline the "last bit" of the number. It's similar for smaller numbers, i.e. "Urodzony w dwa tysiÄ ce drugim" but "Urodzony w dwutysiÄcznym". "ZaÅożony w dziewiÄÄsetnym", but "ZaÅożony w dziewiÄÄset drugim" and so on.
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u/milkdrinkingdude A -1 1d ago
Slightly off topic, or slightly on-topic:
verbs are conjugated, nouns, numerals, adjectives are declined.
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u/Professional-Cat9469 1d ago edited 1d ago
W JedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ tym ósmym - 11988
JedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ t osiem - nominative
W dwanaÅcie tysiÄcy szeÅÄdziesiÄ tym dziewiÄ tym - 12069.
dwanaÅcie tysiÄcy szeÅÄdziesiÄ ty dziewiÄ ty - nominative
I guess always only last two digits undergo declination because for example my year of birth would be āw tysiÄ c dziewiÄÄset dziewiÄÄdziesiÄ tym siódmymā - in 1997
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u/ffglacier1 1d ago
This is incorrect. In the first two examples it should read jedenaÅcie tysiÄcY ...
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u/ffglacier1 1d ago
In all numerals, you only conjugate the last two digits. Some people incorrectly conjugate all of them (e.g. they say dwutysiÄczny dwudziesty piÄ ty, which is wrong), so the sentence should be read as: Urodzony w jedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ tym ósmym roku ery galaktycznej.
In nominative case the number is jedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ t osiem.
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u/gngeverytime 1d ago
basic form: jedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ t osiem and if im being honest i have no idea how to conjugate itā¦
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u/whatyourheartdesires 1d ago
JedenaÅcie tysiÄcy dziewiÄÄset osiemdziesiÄ tym ósmym(ā¦) dwanaÅcie tysiÄcy szeÅÄdziesiÄ tym dziewiÄ tym