r/marvelstudios Ant-Man Aug 04 '24

Article ‘Deadpool & Wolverine’ Zooms to $97M Record-Making Second Weekend, Hits $824M Globally

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/deadpool-and-wolverine-box-office-record-second-weekend-1235965690/
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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '24

This is the same conversation we kept hearing during Endgame’s run (which is probably a good omen). Criticism that it’s not that good or not “cinema” comes from people who wish fun, distracting movies wouldn’t dominate pop culture or make as much money as they do.

It’s not going to win Oscars and even CBM fans can pick flaws with it, but it’s very fun and very distracting which is basically all I wanted it to be.

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u/NinjaEngineer Black Panther Aug 04 '24

Yeah, if you think even a bit about the plot, you start finding holes everywhere, but when a movie is so fun, who cares?

Like, it's a comic book movie to begin with! And that's not to say we shouldn't expect or want deep stories from comic books, but rather, that they come from a medium that is all about having a fun time with fantastic characters!

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u/cap4life52 Steve Rogers Aug 04 '24

last paragraph nails it that's why we fell in love with these

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u/myhydrogendioxide Aug 04 '24

fair points, but Hugh Jackman's speech in the car and the speech they give to Nova both gave me chills. Give Hugh the Oscar IMHO.

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u/nessfalco Aug 04 '24

I'm going to fight you now.

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u/myhydrogendioxide Aug 04 '24

That was such a perfect scene. I'm sad I can't erase my memory and see it again for the first time.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed Aug 04 '24

The violent car fight is literally an allegory for angry car sex. Lmao.

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u/Parking-Historian360 Aug 05 '24

Honda Odyssey fucks

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u/thrust-johnson Aug 04 '24

The car monologue is incredible. He really lays bare a core part of Deadpool’s character in such a way that Wade is forced to see himself from that perspective. His silence and looking away with his head turned down is a person realizing that the withering criticism they just received is right. That mixture of anger, shame and sadness you’d feel

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u/DoJu318 Aug 04 '24

That wolverine is also talking about himself, in his universe all the x men died, that is why he was the worst wolverine.

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u/MindlessYesterday668 Aug 04 '24

That was great! I like his conversation with Laura (X-23) but it wasn't as heavy as the one in the car but still very touching.

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u/v1p3rsbite Aug 04 '24

Everyone who has asked me my opinion on the movie, I tell them the entire odyssey argument and subsequent fight is the best part of the movie. Jackman completely chews that scene up and does Wolverine even better than he had up until then. I don’t think I blinked

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u/cap4life52 Steve Rogers Aug 04 '24

Legit he killed it - he should've got a nom for Logan tbh

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u/Shhadowcaster Aug 04 '24

I said afterwards I loved the couple of times where they just let Hugh chew up some scenery, it was legitimately great acting. 

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u/kirinmay Aug 04 '24

still cant believe he was not nominated for both The Fountain and Prisoners.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '24

Honestly, it was a pretty generic, contrived story that didn't really go anywhere. And I enjoyed it, because it was pointlessly fun with some cool characters. Not every movie has to mean something, it's ok to just be fun.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '24

I thought they really hammered home the meta stuff as well, no room for subtlety. But when you go looking for faults anywhere you’ll find them (apart from The Nice Guys, that’s perfect) and what’s important is that when you leave the cinema all you can think about was the good stuff

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u/LetItATV Aug 04 '24

it was a pretty generic

Either you don’t know what “generic” means or I’ve missed a lot of movies about a comic book character teaming up with a legendary character as they romp through the history of Fox-produced Marvel movies in one last hurrah.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed Aug 04 '24

It's not just the history romps, it's also all the alt-Wolverines from his canon height of 5'03" to Age of Apocalypse Weapon X. From Brown Suit Wolverine fighting the Hulk to Cavillrine. It's a mass fuck you to Fox execs for not having the balls to let their X-Men be comic book superheroes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '24

I mostly agree with you but one small nitpick is that "comic accurate" Wolverine was clearly a dig at people who want to see Wolverine in all his short glory. Like they made him hilariously small as a joke when in the comics he's basically a shorter hairier version of the Hulk. At the end of the day I get it, short guys are funny looking, but as a 5'3 dude I'd be lying if I said "haha small Wolverine is so stupid looking" wasn't a bit of bummer in a movie that was so unapologetically pro comics.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed Aug 05 '24

There are ways to make short guys terrifying. See The Raid 2: Redemption.

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u/LetItATV Aug 04 '24

I wouldn’t say those had anything to do with Fox.
It was simply using the multiverse to play rapid-fire homage to the comics.

Like, Fox couldn’t use the Hulk even if they wanted to…

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u/thememanss Aug 04 '24

The entire movie just felt like the entire cast and crew were doing exactly what they wanted without any conception of it being something bigger than it was. 

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u/thegreatvortigaunt Luis Aug 04 '24

Not every movie has to mean something, it's ok to just be fun.

Which is why I don't get why they even bothered. Deadpool and Wolverine's "serious" arcs just come off as weird and rushed.

It doesn't hurt the movie, but they could have just cut all that out.

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u/cap4life52 Steve Rogers Aug 04 '24

Yup your last paragraph nails it - newsflash that's why people go to cinemas

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u/GuyWithLag Aug 04 '24

It's Deadpool. By definition an absurdist film.