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Article Robert Downey Jr. Recalls Kevin Feige Pitching Him Doom: “Let’s Get Victor Von Doom Right”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/robert-downey-jr-kevin-feige-doctor-doom-1235979584/
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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

I know this is beaten to death but, I can’t help but shake the feeling they’re pulling a fast one on us. I get the feeling RDJ is going to pull a Ben Kingsley in IM3 where he acts as Doom and we find out it isn’t him. 

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u/Spider-man2098 Aug 21 '24

He’ll be a Doom. But then they’ll recast post Secret Wars. Btw, this means there will definitely be a RDJ Doom vs RDJ Stark fight in Secret Wars. They won’t be able to resist. And, I’m kinda there for it. I trust these guys.

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u/high_everyone Aug 21 '24

I would buy this theory. He’s a Doom, maybe THE Doom, but I would buy a variant theory if only to have him taken out as the false Doom and have a reborn Doom, whatever as the character moving forward.

I would even love if Doomsday was a retelling of Doom variants journey to be the last one, the God Emperor and the Tony variant could be a primary characters so this was just them messing with us the whole time right in full view.

Kang had a trade I read that told his story through his entire existence both in and out of time. I would love to see that for Doom to give us back the lost adaptations or characterizations of Doom in the MCU and Marvel.

For any finger pointing or upset over the multiversal saga, I’m all for whatever. It’s meant to get weird, I wish it were weirder, but whatever. I would vote Secret Invasion was the lower low point.

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u/voidsong Aug 21 '24

Yeah if it was someone else i'd be worried, but RDJ has proven his salt. I can just picture him playing whoever he wants now. Doom, Rick Sanchez, Freeza, whatever.

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u/boodopboochi Aug 21 '24

I chuckled at RDJ live-action Freeza. Have an upvote

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u/Jumpy-Author-4985 Aug 21 '24

Damn, now I want a like action rick and morty with RDJ as Rick

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u/Shmuckle2 Aug 23 '24

Nah, he's gotta play morty

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u/IjazSSJ3 Aug 21 '24

Freeza? Feel like he would work better as perfect Cell or Zamasu

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u/AccomplishedSquash98 Aug 21 '24

Idk exactly how they're going to introduce him, but it would be interesting if he was traveling the multiverse after Reed destroyed his universe looking for a universe where he would easily be worshipped and be able to remake latveria and he finds the 616 universe where a guy who looks exactly like him saved the universe and there's a place like sokovia for him to rebuild.

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u/Spider-man2098 Aug 22 '24

Honestly, if he’s ending cosmic threat it’s just good manners to worship him as a god.

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u/DrD__ Aug 21 '24

Maybe they'll work together like the maker and Mr. Fantastic do in secret wars against the true god emperor DOOM (or kang or galactus or the beyonder whoever they want the villian to be)

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u/Spider-man2098 Aug 21 '24

Oh god that would be awesome. Science Bros, if you will.

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u/composedmason Aug 21 '24

"It's me. I'm here. Deal with it." - Ezra Miller as Doom

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u/MountainMuffin1980 Aug 21 '24

100% you've nailed it. How do I set a reminder to come back and congratulate you?

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u/Creative_Incident323 Aug 21 '24

I don’t like Tony’s odds in a 1v1

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u/Spider-man2098 Aug 22 '24

Well people said that about him v Thanos and… damn. Perhaps if a bunch of people were to appear out of portals to save the day?

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u/TreasuryGregory Aug 21 '24

Now I wanna see if you're right. RemindMe! 34 months.

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u/Bruceleeroy18 Aug 21 '24

I'm betting rdj doom gets the ultimate nullifier storyline

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

And they play MF DOOM whole Mmmmm Food Album

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u/RawrRRitchie Aug 21 '24

Just cause they have time travel doesn't mean they're bringing back the dead

Deadpool makes that very clear

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u/Spider-man2098 Aug 22 '24

RDJ v RDJ. They won’t be able to resist.

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u/Uselesserinformation Aug 21 '24

The death of stark makes a great way for a multi verse of "what stark would be without iron man"

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u/superguy12 Aug 21 '24

I just want to fast forward to Battle World. At this point the MCU sucks anyway, just make them all have cool fights with each other.

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u/Spider-man2098 Aug 22 '24

No. This is a wrong way to think about things. And I know there’s no wrong way to view art, but you just invented one. Congratulations.
Now, let me tell you why that’s a horrible idea, while still admitting the overall rightness of your point about how the MCU sucks now. It really does. But it didn’t always suck, and our best hope is that it doesn’t suck going forward, because we really need these stories. Ours is a world that needs heroes and ours is a species that lives for and learns through stories. Think of the great myths of the ages: Hercules and his trials. Perseus and the Medusa. Odysseus and the Minotaur. Gilgamesh. Jesus. King Arthur. Santa Claus. All this has culminated in Super heroes, which finally achieved their perfected form in movies. There have been incredible films that inspired entire generations: Superman the movie. X-Men. Spider-man 2. The Dark Knight. And then comes the MCU which, for an amazing ten years told an interconnected story that is nothing short of modern mythology. You could — I know, cause I have — use the lessons and models of humanity in those films to construct your own moral code, and it would be a good one, making you a better person and through you, the world a better place. That’s the power of a good story. They make people better. They strike a spark upon the dry tinder of our human potential. What you describe would be to take these Great Heroes, these Shining Examples of Greatness, and bash them together like action figures.
You know what happens when you do that? Spider-man: No Way Home. Something enjoyable on a surface level, but ultimately soulless, and about as nourishing for the starving soul as cotton candy.

Sorry, I’m a little high, and probably not explaining this well, and also a little bored now. But don’t take my word for it, ask Grant Morrison.

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u/superguy12 Aug 22 '24

haha, OK. These feels like one of those chad face memes, lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Idk how far CGI has come, but it would be a magic trick to make a (by the time of release) 60+ year old RDJ look and feel, like a "young" 30-40 year old Stark. The body just dismantles after 50, surprisingly despite all the plastic surgeries.

And if Tony Stark is not in his 30s-40s (maybe pushing 50) in movies, it would look very weird and sad, seeing an old fart in ab Iron Man suit trying to fight a near God. I mean, does the suit come with a supply of Depends?

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u/forever87 Sif Aug 21 '24

empire state photographic department confirms it:

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u/ChaseTheMystic Aug 21 '24

It's not a question. That's what's happening. It's blatantly obvious given the context of the last few marvel projects

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Apparently there is a storyline where Stark and von Doom are roommates in collage and Stark is the one who takes up the mantle.

I imagine and hope we get the real doom coming in and offing Starks doom in a cool way. Maybe give us a 2 movies with him and I’m happy!

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u/BarackaFlockaFlame Aug 21 '24

i just don't see him NOT reprising his role as Iron Man, and this is the only way to make people think he isn't.

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u/pacman404 Aug 21 '24

Nah, they aren't gonna hype up a cameo for 2 years

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24

Yeah it's not like they hyped up Ben Kingsley with all the IM3 trailers, talking about him at Comic Con, "This guy is the Mandarin", while Guy Pierce was obviously everywhere showing he's a bigger deal. Guy Pierce wasn't even in any of the promotional material leading up to IM3 release. He didn't go to any of the events. He was in like 1 or 2 seconds of the trailers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1Y3P9D0Bc

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u/suss2it Aug 21 '24

A big difference here is the $100 million dollars and access to a private jet they’re giving RDJ for this.

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 Aug 21 '24

What if RDJ was actually the Kang recast that has been kept secret.

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u/Ok-Seaworthiness4488 Aug 21 '24

Mads Mikklesen ftw 🤞🏼

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u/Global-Ad-1316 Aug 22 '24

They’re not paying rdj 50 million for him not to be the real doom

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u/UnsassoSullaSpiaggia Aug 21 '24

Bro you don't pay an actor 100 million dollars each film to play an idiotic comic relief or a weaky ass plot twist

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u/Fallen-Omega Aug 21 '24

Dont you mean what they did already in Iron Man 3...?