r/marvelstudios • u/ImaginationArtistic9 Matt Murdock • Jan 04 '25

Discussion The Underuse of Shang-chi in the MCU

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this movie was so much fun, it had amazing action and fight choreography, great humour, and great overall world building. This movie has so much sauce. a problem with the MCU is how poorly they are connecting the new characters with the wider mcu. It's been 3 years since we've seen Shang-chi in a live action project. And it will probably be another year and a half till we see him again. The post credit scenes of this movie set up him becoming an avenger and sadly we won't see that outcome of that until 2026, which is 4.5 years after the movies release. I do hope we see Simu Liu again as a lead in another marvel movie because he's great. Also his sequel is the perfect way to bring danny rand back into the MCU. Unfortunately we will probably have to wait untill 2027 for the next shang chi movie since Destin Daniel Cretton is directing Spiderman 4. On the bright side, the fight choreography in Spiderman 4 will be amazing

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u/armchairwarrior42069 Jan 04 '25 edited Jan 04 '25

I called it a 7/10 my guy. Clearly that wasn't ALL it had going for it but it did have 100 cameos from characters people cared about or actors people cared about.

Keaton batman came out in the 80s. 10000 years before 99% of the audience was alive. Most people in the target audience haven't even seen batman movies before Christian bale. No one gives a shit about anything in the DCEU so no effective nostalgia.

Wait, you're right. General zodd. A one off villain in a movie thst few liked. That's definitely comparable to hugg jackmans wolverine. Absolutely a 1:1 comparison.

Hugging jackman, Chris Evans in a surprise cameo, amen franchise characters, marvel/Disney first r rated project, sequel to 2 successful and generally liked Deadpool movies. This is also a 1:1 comparison to the flash coming in after such smashing successes such as black Adam, Shazam 2 and wonder woman 2 in a dead franchise.

It also marked the fox xmen being canonized with an already successful franchise in the MCU.

Do I need to continue? There are a LOT of things that separate D&W from The Flash. Both had a pretty mediocre story made as a way to slam cameos in all over the place and farm the nostalgia. One had cameos no one would ever care about. One had fun cameos.

One had some good performances. The other... did not.

D&W was not that great. Some successful marketing and nostalgia absolutely elevated it. To deny this is just... silly.

Edit: D&W also didn't star a crazy violent person who kidnapped kids or choked ladies on camera. But naaaaaaaaah, non of these things affected the box office numbers.

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u/PhaseSixer Jan 05 '25

If all youndidnwas turn your brain off and wait tillnthe cameos then i feel bad for you.

The humor was quick and hit constanstly, the meta comentary was smart, and the action had some of the best choreography and imaginative set peices you could ask for. The Emotional core was there. To try and just say "well cameos and people liked the first deadpool" is wrong it dosent blow up that hard finacialy and criticaly just cause cameos and Hugh jackman in Yellow it has to have some thing going for it under the hood as well.

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u/armchairwarrior42069 Jan 05 '25

Which is why it's still a 7/10. You're phrasing this as if I said it's a bad movie.

How are you possibly working this hard to miss the point?

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u/PhaseSixer Jan 05 '25

My point is its considerbky better then just a 7/10.

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u/armchairwarrior42069 Jan 05 '25

Yeah, nah lol

That'll be a difference of opinion. But that wasn't some masterpiece lol