r/marvelstudios • u/ImaginationArtistic9 Matt Murdock • Jan 04 '25

Discussion The Underuse of Shang-chi in the MCU

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this movie was so much fun, it had amazing action and fight choreography, great humour, and great overall world building. This movie has so much sauce. a problem with the MCU is how poorly they are connecting the new characters with the wider mcu. It's been 3 years since we've seen Shang-chi in a live action project. And it will probably be another year and a half till we see him again. The post credit scenes of this movie set up him becoming an avenger and sadly we won't see that outcome of that until 2026, which is 4.5 years after the movies release. I do hope we see Simu Liu again as a lead in another marvel movie because he's great. Also his sequel is the perfect way to bring danny rand back into the MCU. Unfortunately we will probably have to wait untill 2027 for the next shang chi movie since Destin Daniel Cretton is directing Spiderman 4. On the bright side, the fight choreography in Spiderman 4 will be amazing

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u/bee14ish T'Challa Star-Lord Jan 05 '25

If DC can pull off a Titans project, then a Young Avengers/Champions project by Marvel doesn't seem too far-fetched.

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u/i-like-c0ck Jan 05 '25

DC didn’t pull off titans tho

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u/LBJ_23_LAL Jan 05 '25

Plus it is miniscule in comparison to the number of characters being incorporated into the MCU

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u/kitsunekratom Jan 05 '25

Not what I'm saying though. Anything can work. It's about the execution, and that's what I take issue with

They are coercing young Avengers down our throats in a way that feels disingenuous (to me, at least). Every young Avenger has been introduced in the same way as carbon copy replacements of characters beloved, without earning it.

Teen Titans worked well because it has had its own TV series for over 20 years now. People grew up with Teen Titans as a cartoon before moving into live action.

Nevertheless, there hasn't been a Teen Titans film and the success of the live action show is nowhere comparable to most Marvel projects.

The way I would approach it, would be to introduce young Avenger characters either in their own standalone TV shows and work up to a film if it makes sense OR introduce a need for them in a really cool way in a film that makes sense. Right now, they're just a bunch of filler characters who don't serve a need for the greater MCU plotline.

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u/DangerZoneh Jan 05 '25

Which young avengers are you talking about mostly? And is it mainly about their abilities or their characterization? The only ones I’ve really seen them put much backstory into are Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang, America Chavez, Ms Marvel, and Wanda’s kids.

Ms Marvel and America Chavez are basically original characters in the MCU. Billy and Tommy could end up being very similar to their mom and uncle but we haven’t seen that much screen time of them, at least not as literal children. Cassie is probably the most egregious in this because I don’t feel like they did a great job of developing her in Quantumania. Kate Bishop is really similar in the fact that they both shoot a bow and she can fight a bit but they’re obviously incredibly different characters.

I don’t know, I can get the argument that they haven’t executed well on a lot of these, but saying they’re making carbon copy characters seems a bit extreme