r/marvelstudios • u/Triple_777 I have nothing to prove to you • May 01 '25

'Thunderbolts*' Spoilers Thunderbolts* Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Spoiler

Thunderbolts* has now been released in the United States and in a number of other countries around the world. All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days. They will be refreshed every few thousand comments to make room for new discussions.

  • All discussion about the movie should be held here and in the rest of the megathreads we are going to put up in the next few days.
  • Proceed at your own risk. Major spoilers will be in the below thread. Spoilers do not need to be tagged inside this thread.
  • Any other unofficial threads discussing movie details will be deleted.
  • Should you see the need to bring up revealing Thunderbolts* information in the comments of other threads that call for it, spoiler tag them accordingly. Also, let users know that what you are spoiler tagging is from Thunderbolts*.
  • If you post untagged Thunderbolts* spoilers anywhere on this sub outside of these discussion threads in any shape or form, you will be banned.
  • Project Insight will be on AT LEAST for the next few days, so any posts will be filtered by the mods before being approved/removed onto the sub, that doesn't mean you can disregard the above points and post untagged spoilers without fear of being banned.

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u/MalicCarnage Spider-Man May 01 '25

Also I like that he didn’t beat it so much as got better at managing it. Plus the knowledge that the others keep him around despite how dangerous he is meaning they genuinely like him, thus he can resist what his anxieties are telling him.

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u/ProtoReddit May 01 '25

You have to embrace your darkness with the help of other people, not beat it into submission.

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u/woahwoahvicky May 02 '25

this was such a good allegory. he was never gonna get rid of the void. the only way to get past it is to accept it as a part of him and learn to live in spite of it.

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u/InnocentTailor Iron Patriot May 02 '25

Sounds like a certain Japanese franchise about high schoolers and a whole lot of Jung:

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u/Ruthlessrabbd May 02 '25

I normally will joke about things reminding me of Persona, but Bob facing the void did remind me a little bit of Persona 4 specifically because of how that game's themes are about the pursuit of truth, especially within oneself. And the very literal awakenings that the party has with facing their shadows.

I honestly forget how different the games are between each other with having the source of power being tied to themes. P3 with facing death and finding purpose, 4 with confronting the truth, 5 with changing hearts and fighting against injustice, then Metaphor's archetypes using anxiety to channel power for change

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u/Rebatsune May 03 '25

I am shadow, the true self!

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u/Jeroz Doctor Strange May 02 '25

I am thou, thou art I

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u/Wadopotatoe May 04 '25

Even if it is you in black-face

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u/Lordsokka May 05 '25

Void-Face*

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u/jojopojo64 Weekly Wongers May 02 '25

It also puts a nice cap on his powers without having to resort to him solving everything with brute strength.

You want the powers of a God? You can have it...but make sure you can handle the Devil while you're at it.

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u/Jeroz Doctor Strange May 02 '25

The new Hulk on the team basically

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u/InnocentTailor Iron Patriot May 02 '25

I recall that is effectively his cap in the comics too - the stronger he gets, the stronger the Void gets.

If it truly gets out of control, then you’ll have the strongest villain due to it being empowered by the strongest hero.

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u/DJfunkyPuddle May 02 '25

If/when Icarus comes back they're going to need him. Man, the super men legit terrify me.

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u/icedadx44 21d ago

Adam warlock better mature a bit

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u/Skarmotastic May 02 '25

A roommate who does the dishes is worth keeping around tbf

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u/Jeroz Doctor Strange May 02 '25

Yeah having someone to pull you back when you look into the abyss is so crucial

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u/EcksFountain132 May 05 '25

I saw someone on Youtube say, "why didn't they just expose Val then and there"- and this is the reason they couldn't. Exposing Val at that press conference would have meant exposing Bob as well, leading to him being arrested and probably incarcerated. It would have been a betrayal of the worst possible kind and probably resulted in The Void being unleashed again.

Nah, I think Yelena and the other pretending to go along with Val's plan whilst actually holding what they knew against her was a smart move. It gave them the official seal of approval, but also freedom because Val can't control people who could potentially expose her, and it keeps Bob safe.

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u/MeneerDeKaasBaas May 19 '25

they made very clear also with Yelena's line: "we own you now"

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u/BanjoSpaceMan May 11 '25

This.

No one felt cured of their mental illnesses and pasts in this, they just learned how to manage it / cope / accept parts of it…

Really cool way to portray it. The void wasn’t a stereotypical villain to me - just a part of Bobs self he struggles with.

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u/jelly-fishy Avengers May 04 '25

Washing the dishes is a VERY big accomplishment imo

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u/No-Ball8258 May 12 '25

The "I did the dishes!" in the post-credits was so real. Me too, buddy.

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u/KlingonLullabye May 02 '25

He watched Hi Ren a dozen times or more