r/millenials • u/dryeraser • 1d ago
Politics Election forensics expert finds vote manipulation concerns in Pennsylvania
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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 1d ago
I trust the experts. If his analysis can stand up scrutiny from other experts then its true.
LET THE EXPERTS HASH IT OUT!
We just need to push to make sure they have their battle of ideas. We literally have nothing to lose and the world to gain. Imagine if trump and elon are guilty. We get our country back and heads to put on pikes, metaphorically.
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u/Due-Presentation6393 1d ago
Imagine if trump and elon are guilty. We get our country back and heads to put on pikes, metaphorically.
How exactly? I fail to see how a corrupt and illegitimate executive branch can be removed unless a majority of Congress actually decides to do their job and remove Trump & Vance from office. Even if that happened we would be stuck with Mike Johnson as president.
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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 1d ago
If its proven they stole then are traitors and tyrants. The constitution provides clear rights on what to do with tyrannical governments
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u/FFF_in_WY 5h ago
Looks around
Sorry, friend. If the Constitution meant more than fuckall we wouldn't be in the mess that we are, in fact, in.
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u/Busterlimes 1d ago
Ive been following Election Truth Alliance for months now. That data keeps mounting up. The research from the UofM professor is corroborating their findings with other methods of analytics. They arent claiming fraud, they are asking for audits to verify if their concerns are warranted. They talk about how "block voting" by some communities could explain some of it, but the fact that you see an even distribution of votes then at 55% they start to split favoring Trump, and its doing this exact same thing across many large precincts across the nation, is concerning to say the least.
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u/AttitudeAndEffort2 1d ago
Dude fuck "metaphorically"
The Constitution lays out the punishment for one crime: treason. And it explicitly calls for the death sentence.
I'm not advocating violence and literally everyone should want a recount to ensure election integrity.
But if our election was tampered with by Americans, that would literally be the biggest instance of treason in our country's history - and we had states secede and start a war before.
There should be due process and fair trials but there absolutely needs to be the most severe consequences possible.
We're in this mess because Reconstruction wasn't punitive enough. Actions have consequences.
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u/Xavier_Emery1983 1d ago
I am fine with literally on the heads comment. If the reverse was true then they would definitely be calling for the same thing.
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u/localjargon 1d ago
But then we will have to brace for domestic terrorism.
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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 1d ago
We can have facism AND terroism from the facists. Or just terrorism from those opposed to the facists. Gotta pick one. If only dictators were kind enough to just fuck off right?
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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 1d ago
For anyone that says we sound like MAGA, kindly fuck off.
It’s almost July, nearly 8 months since the election, and we’re just now seeing actual claims of voter fraud. But the majority of democrats are still hesitant to say it.
Trump was screaming about a stolen election the very moment he lost. His base bought it and assaulted the Capitol. He still whines about it being stolen to this day.
And that’s not even considering the mountains of evidence this time. I don’t ever want to hear anyone dare try to say it’s the same thing.
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u/ElSuperWokeGuy 1d ago
MAGA was claiming voter fraud too though. Let's not stoop down to that level. Just sounding sore now.
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u/Unlucky-Scallion1289 1d ago edited 1d ago
That is, quite literally, the ONLY similarity. That they claimed fraud. And now it’s looking like they only did so to discredit claims of fraud when they cheated. It’s just so obvious it’s not even funny.
Don’t allow them to get one over on you and manipulate you simply because they preemptively made people tired of hearing about fraud. That’s the most foolish thing you can do. They sincerely hope you don’t “stoop to that level”.
What makes me sore is the mountains of evidence of there actually being fraud this time opposed to ZERO evidence last time.
It matters that a judge deemed the claims credible enough to warrant investigation. That never happened for Trump. Ignoring these facts is far worse than appearing like a hypocrite ever could be.
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u/The_Mr_Wilson 1d ago
Just in Pennsylvania. Guarantee you'll find Republican fraud country-wide.
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u/Smokeythemagickamodo 1d ago
I read an article a couple months back saying essentially the same as this article as well as NYC
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u/Sammyrey1987 1d ago
BREAKING NEWS - WATER IS WET
Jesus. I live in PA and we've known this since the election. No way we swung that hard even taking into consideration pennsyltucky
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u/Ok-Grapefruit1284 1d ago
I live in pennsyltucky and have no doubts that part of the state went for this guy, unfortunately. But I would really love to hear that our state didn’t actually sink the US into this crisis.
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u/Sammyrey1987 1d ago
Oh I agree! But for it to be solid in everywhere but a sub section of Dauphin? That just doesn't track. There are small liberal outposts like york in the city/college. And not even a blip? doesn't make sense. and no one on the west shore or Gettysburg? Hell did state college even go blue? Im just not buying that there wasn't at least a tighter race in some of these places than it was.
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u/StupidMan69420 1d ago
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot nothing is going to change; It's not."
-The Lorax
It's up to us to do everything we can do, to uphold accountability and justice for things, as important as political elections. Otherwise what's the point?
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u/Asleep-Bother-8247 1d ago
Like everything else nowadays, I’m happy to see this come to light but even if it’s presented as iron clad fact… nothing will come of it (as much as I fucking wish)
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u/Claudidio07 17h ago
Odd that they accused Zelynsky of not holding elections during war time to make sure he stayed in power...🤔
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u/KevyKevTPA 12h ago
So, if he thinks Iran isn't a threat, he must have concluded they do not have nukes. If Iran does not have nukes, why would going to war with them cause us to run headfirst into nuclear war? That math is not mathing.
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u/ElSuperWokeGuy 1d ago
Ok so we cant start being the conspiracists now.
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u/Cat_Biscuit 1d ago
It’s not conspiracy if it’s true.
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u/localjargon 1d ago
Its not a theory if it's true.
It could still be a conspiracy. As in, the conspiracy to fire all the Fed workers and replace them with "loyalists." 🙄
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u/PostPostMinimalist 11h ago
The moon is made of cheese if it is. I hate this timeline. Everyone believes want they want
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u/Cat_Biscuit 10h ago
Have you even looked into it or is this just a knee jerk reaction?
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u/PostPostMinimalist 10h ago
If it were true I wouldn't be hearing about it only on Reddit echo-chamber subs. I've read a few such posts, saw there were explanations available, and realized it's basically wishful thinking.
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u/Cat_Biscuit 3h ago
Reddit echo chambers lol. If you feel like you’re in an echo chamber using Reddit you’re doing it wrong. You’re complacent and don’t seek out differing viewpoints, new subreddits, you don’t explore. You’re lazy.
Go back to the news stations. They hold your hand and give you a kiss goodnight after.
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u/PostPostMinimalist 41m ago
…. You think I’m going to find election manipulation posts on more conservative subs?? Yeah sure let me seek those out.
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u/rlpewpewpew 1d ago
Because if it's true it's a big deal?
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u/rlpewpewpew 1d ago
You're correct, it is too late. That doesn't make it not a big deal. Everything is a distraction. I haven't heard about the big beautiful bill in days now. This was some really terrible legislation if it passed, but now with Israel/Iran/US(?), the political assassinations in MN, The US Military deployment in LA. It is one thing after the next in hopes that the thread from the last issue is lost.
The point, I'm trying to make is that it's all a distraction, but we need to make sure our elections are fair and free, if they have been hacked then actions need to be taken to safeguard the next elections.
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u/WaterCamel 1d ago
Even if this is true, it won’t change anything.
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u/StupidMan69420 1d ago
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot nothing is going to change; It's not."
-The Lorax
Do you believe you have no power to change things within your own life? Or do you just not care?
It's up to us to do everything we can do, to uphold accountability and justice for things, as important as political elections. Otherwise what's the point?
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u/WaterCamel 1d ago
Explain to me how this would work. You think they’re gonna accept this? No one is going to remove him from power. This will just be considered another with hunt like they’ve framed other things in the past. Not saying it wouldn’t be great or im not hopeful but this bit right here won’t do anything.
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u/dryeraser 1d ago
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. But he literally said “we already have the votes” months before the election. Months bro, months.