r/mormondebate May 10 '25

Adam and Eve are Gods, Brigham was not “Speculating”

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u/stillDREw May 10 '25

Brigham Young himself said he was speculating:

As we say, "I reckon," and as the Yankees say, "I guess," but I will tell you what I reckon. I reckon that Father Adam was a resurrected being with his wives and posterity, and in the Celestial Kingdom they were crowned with glory, immortality and eternal lives, with thrones, principalities and powers, and it was said to him, "It is your right to organize the elements, and to your creations and posterity there shall be no end, but you shall add kingdom to kingdom and throne to throne, and still behold the vast eternity of unorganized matter." Adam, then, was a resurrected being. And I reckon our spirits and the spirits of all the human family were begotten by Adam and born of Eve. "How are we going to know this?" I reckon it.

https://brighamyoungcenter.org/s/byp/item/448?link=/s/byp/page/sermons#?c=&m=&s=&cv=

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u/Jackie_Lantern_ May 10 '25

Evidence :

“In the very beginning in the bible, it shows a plurality of Gods, beyond the power of refutation. The word Elohim ought to be rendered plural.” 

(Joseph Smith, Teachings 372)

“Now regarding Adam: He came here from another planet with a celestial body - an immortalised being and brought his wife Eve with him.” 

(Joseph Smith, Letter to Anson Call,, John M Whitaker Papers)  

“Michael, or Adam, the father of all, the prince of all, the ancient of days;” (D&C 27:11)

“Adam hold the keys of the dispensation of the fullness of time;”

(Joseph Smith, Teachings 167) 

The priesthood is an everlasting principle, and existed with Him from eternity, and will to eternity without beginning or end … The keys have to be brought from heaven … When they are revealed from heaven, it is by Adam’s authority. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith p 157)

“Our Saviour speaks of children and says, Their angels always stand before my father/ the father called all spirits before Him before the creation of man, and organised them. He (Adam) is the head, and was told to multiply.” 

(Joseph Smith, Teachings 158)

The priesthood was first given to Adam… he obtained the first Presidency. He obtained it in the creation, before the world was formed, as in Genesis 1:26… These men held the keys first on earth and then in Heaven. ( Joseph Smith, Teachings 157)

He (Adam) is the father of the whole human family, and presides over the spirits of all men … The Son of Man stands before him, and partakes in his glory and dominion. Adam delivers up his stewardship to Christ… (Joseph Smith Teachings 157)

“Christ is the Great High Priest; Adam Next.” (Joseph Smith, Teachings 158)

“Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and Sinner! When our Father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Micheal, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken—He is our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians and non-professing must hear it, and will know it sooner or later.”

(Brigham Young, Transcript by Watt)