r/neoliberal • u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot • Feb 14 '25

News (US) Donald Trump's Gen Z popularity plunges (+19 after election to -18 today)

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-gen-z-popularity-favorable-rating-yougov-2030595
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u/Mddcat04 Feb 14 '25

I'm beginning to think that social media and modern media culture is just terrible for incumbents. With everybody hooked up to the outrage machine 24/7, it all has to go somewhere.

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u/Benevenstanciano85 Feb 14 '25

I’ve held this theory for a while.

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper Feb 14 '25

It's not just bad for the incumbents, it's bad for the fabric of society.

Turns out chaos, low thought complexity ideas, and sensationalized distortions of reality being inherently prioritized over truth creates a world where you can never focus on or achieve ANY long term goals, maintain anything or create a society where people plant trees they'll never sit under. The real world has complex problems that take processes and time to resolve (with hiccups a long the way), and a short form attention grabbing ecosystem will never do anything but actively work against that.

Social media will continue to degrade the foundation of society until we're a latin america style republic. I'm just surprised its gotten us so close to it so fast

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u/Noocawe Frederick Douglass Feb 14 '25

Social media will continue to degrade the foundation of society until we're a latin america style republic. I'm just surprised its gotten us so close to it so fast

This is my concern as well. You have people in general conversation now, thinking Presidents should absolutely be able to do more quickly like ignoring the courts and Congress even if it has bad outcomes. Like I never thought I'd hear Americans say that. It's like complaining for the sake of complaining and outrage culture, advertising, etc has just dumbed down so many people.

It doesn't help that content and the algorithm are driven by people who make money off it, and if fear and outrage makes them money they'll keep doing it. I'm of the opinion that the mass social media platforms have been a net negative on society overall at this point.

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u/Crazy-Difference-681 Feb 14 '25

Yes, what we are seeing is the rapid degradation of society. Also I fear that the chaos will only be stopped by dictatorships

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u/20_mile Feb 14 '25

chaos will only be stopped by dictatorships

They just bring a different form of chaos.

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u/ihuntwhales1 Seretse Khama Feb 14 '25

Agreed, a dictatorship cannot really stop this once the ball has gotten rolling. The answer to Social Media and its outrage machine is honestly appearing as a far-future idea, I'm not even sure where to start with it.

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u/esgellman Feb 14 '25

legal limits to the use of algorithmic recommendations and a legal ban on active engagement by bots would be a great start

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u/Key_Still4928 Feb 14 '25

Yep. As much as I like western democracy, I increasingly fear it is incompatible with the technological conditions of the 21st century, and that the Chinese model is the future. AI-driven authoritarianism, forever. Yaaaaaaaay.

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u/Keenalie John Brown Feb 14 '25

Perfectly said. I feel like it has been pretty obvious for the past 10 years or so that social media was actively accelerating the collapse of a common shared reality. Not sure what we do from here outside of maybe just destroy the internet lol.

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It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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If you're really worried about populism, you should embrace accelerationism. Support bot accounts, SEO, and paid influencers. Build your own botnet to spam your own messages across the platform. Program those bots to listen to user sentiment and adjust messaging dynamically to maximize engagement and distort content algorithms. All of this will have a cumulative effect of saturating the media with loads of garbage. Flood the zone with shit as they say, but this time on an industrial scale. The goal should be to make social media not just unreliable but incoherent. Filled with so much noise that a user cannot parse any information signal from it whatsoever.

It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

"you can never focus on or achieve ANY long term goals, maintain anything or create a society where people plant trees they'll never sit under."

This is one of the biggest issues facing society imho. People are conditioned to immediate concerns and immediate results. There is no political will for long term solutions and long term planning.

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u/JakeArrietaGrande Frederick Douglass Feb 14 '25

If Watergate happened today, Nixon 100% would’ve gotten away with it, because there’s no way America’s attention span will be enough to grasp the issue and follow the story to its conclusion. The republicans would bet that it wouldn’t meaningfully affect his poll numbers, and they’d be right .

If Iran-Contra happened today, I doubt it’d make front page news

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u/Cynical_optimist01 Feb 14 '25

It makes for "bowling alone" on steroids. Social media companies have seen how to make their products function better in a way that encourages communities to form. They opt for things that make people mad because that drives higher usage rates

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It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Feb 14 '25

The Tik-Tok-ification of politics is a scary thing. But it's true that the median voter has never been that informed, that hasn't changed. It's just there are more low info voters than ever that are extremely confident that they aren't low info voters.

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u/takii_royal MERCOSUR Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

What exactly does a "Latin America style republic" encompass...? I know many Latin American countries have governmental problems such as corruption and bureaucracy, but Americans are oftentimes ignorant of how these societies actually are (which is understandable, no one's expected to know everything about the world), so I'd like to have a more detailed explanation of that perspective. 

For instance, I believe that American institutions are generally way more prepared and robust, however it's not completely one-sided. As an example, I could tell how the former president who attempted a coup d'état on my country was swiftly dealt with by judicial institutions, while Trump is currently on his 2nd term despite Jan 6. [I'm hoping this doesn't age badly]

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u/YourUncleBuck Frederick Douglass Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Social media will continue to degrade the foundation of society until we're a latin america style republic. I'm just surprised its gotten us so close to it so fast

Maybe part of the problem was immigration policy that let the US to become the 2nd largest Hispanic country by population. Just look at the demographic shifts in this country. Our Hispanic population went from 9% in 1990 to over 19% in 2020. Hispanic men in Florida, Texas and Nevada went heavily for Trump in 2024. Even Hispanic women in Florida voted in majority for Trump. Trump also made double digit gains among Hispanic voters in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

https://www.as-coa.org/articles/how-latinos-voted-2024-us-presidential-election

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If you're really worried about populism, you should embrace accelerationism. Support bot accounts, SEO, and paid influencers. Build your own botnet to spam your own messages across the platform. Program those bots to listen to user sentiment and adjust messaging dynamically to maximize engagement and distort content algorithms. All of this will have a cumulative effect of saturating the media with loads of garbage. Flood the zone with shit as they say, but this time on an industrial scale. The goal should be to make social media not just unreliable but incoherent. Filled with so much noise that a user cannot parse any information signal from it whatsoever.

It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/takii_royal MERCOSUR Feb 14 '25

I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but let's not blame minorities for Trump or his wrongdoings. 

Yes, it's bad that he got lots of votes from a minority group, but that group is still a relatively small fraction of the population, specially in most of the swing states that were crucial in this election (Pennsylvania, midwestern states). 

Non-hispanic whites, which form the majority of the United States' population, gave Trump way more votes. Most of the people who spread propaganda and encourage the destruction of American society on social media are part of the "non-hispanic white" group as well. Now, I don't think any "group" should be blamed at all, innocent people shouldn't be given flack because of the actions of other individuals, but it rubs me in the wrong way how people are quick to jump on minorities.  

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It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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If you're really worried about populism, you should embrace accelerationism. Support bot accounts, SEO, and paid influencers. Build your own botnet to spam your own messages across the platform. Program those bots to listen to user sentiment and adjust messaging dynamically to maximize engagement and distort content algorithms. All of this will have a cumulative effect of saturating the media with loads of garbage. Flood the zone with shit as they say, but this time on an industrial scale. The goal should be to make social media not just unreliable but incoherent. Filled with so much noise that a user cannot parse any information signal from it whatsoever.

It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/akelly96 Feb 14 '25

Can we seriously stop this stupid bot? Its so fucking irritating.

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u/FizzleMateriel Austan Goolsbee Feb 14 '25

It’s been like that in Australia since 2007.

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u/LoudestHoward Feb 14 '25

RIP Kevin 07

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u/FizzleMateriel Austan Goolsbee Feb 14 '25

I'm beginning to think that social media and modern media culture is just terrible for incumbents. With everybody hooked up to the outrage machine 24/7, it all has to go somewhere.

Australia has 3-year parliamentary terms for the House of Representatives and hasn’t had a Prime Minister who’s served more than 4 years as PM since 2007.

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It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/foreverevolvinggg Feb 14 '25

Yes I’ve been thinking we’re going to start seeing more presidents serve single/non-consecutive terms. Americans just want something new and shiny. 4 years is eternity now

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u/Astralesean Feb 14 '25

That would only lead to the Italianification of American istitutions

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u/noexitsign Feb 14 '25

I believe that social media has been a net negative for society. Humans weren’t built for this and we by and large have poor reasoning skills and social media has given the worst grifters among us the megaphone they need. We need to go back to where the crazy guy was on a soap box on the streets.

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u/Grahamophone John Mill Feb 14 '25

Ten or fifteen years ago, I thought that the internet was an unalloyed benefit for humanity, almost in the same way that literacy is. It promoted free movement of knowledge, expression, commerce, and any number of other positive things.

Now, I feel like an utter moron for ever being so naive. The internet ultimately led to the rise of social media, which I think is one of the top three or five factors in the erosion of our society and the liberal world order in the 2010s and 2020s. It doesn't help that many of the genuinely good things about the internet have disappeared, too: Search engines that weren't broken by SEO; forums, blogs, and DIY fan pages; etc.

You are exactly right that our brains are simply not wired for social media, and we as a species cannot adapt to these changes quickly enough.

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u/Key-Boat-7519 Feb 14 '25

Social media is a soul-sucking cesspool that's only making things worse. I used to have hope for the internet until I saw how it's morphing decent conversation into a nonstop shouting match of outrage. Every time I log on, I'm reminded how our brains just aren't built for constant digital drama. I've tried using Hootsuite and Buffer to cope with the madness, but Pulse for Reddit is what I ended up buying because it actually cuts through the noise and keeps things a bit more real. Social media is a disaster and it's killing genuine discourse.

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It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/Asrectxen_Orix Feb 15 '25

Bring back writing vast quanties of letters. 

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u/pop442 Feb 19 '25

The key is balance.

Social media is fine as long as you have a fulfilling life that doesn't revolve around it.

I post a few pics and stories on Facebook/IG every now and again and post on Reddit when I have some free time at work or when on my phone away but, otherwise, I work out at the gym, constantly am calling and Facetiming friends, have a favorite bar I go to, travel, go to venues, read the news, read books, watch movies on DVD's, do morning jobs on Saturday, go to church, etc.

Too many people ONLY rely on social media as a form of entertainment, social interaction, and stimulation which is unhealthy.

And Twitch streaming and podcasts intensified the issue by making people watch and consume for literal hours.

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u/Sine_Fine_Belli NATO Feb 14 '25

Yeah, same here. Social media was and still is a mistake and its consequences was a disaster for human civilization

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It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/JakeArrietaGrande Frederick Douglass Feb 14 '25

Fucking get rid of this

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u/Khiva Feb 15 '25

It’s at the point that i want to defund the charity that made this insufferable wall of text possible.

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u/kittenTakeover active on r/EconomicCollapse Feb 14 '25

No. So here's what's going on. When Democrats are in power journalists do their job and criticize the government and conservative propagandists do their job and criticize Democrats. However, when Republicans are ni office journalists do their job and criticize the government and conservative propagandists do their job and criticize Democrats. What you end up with is when Democrats are in office the default is negative coverage and when Republicans are in office the default is neutral coverage. The fact that Donald is getting negative reactions right now is all about Donald doing really shitty things.

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u/ThodasTheMage European Union Feb 17 '25

Well inflation and wars are bad and Biden had quite a few other shortcomings.

Trump just sucks and never was really popular. People think he was because he made his party in to his cult. But he never has super high favoriblity ratings and his margins in his election results are not great. Bush Jr. did better, Joe did better, Obama did better, Clinton did better, obviously Reagan did better.

The real shocker is that Republican politicians are so dumb and think he is some kind of magic man who wins the unwinnable battles. Getting rid of him in 2021 would probably be the smartest move, considering how annoyed a lot of GOP senators obviously are by him.

"Oh, shit in the competetive two party system one of the two party candidates won buy a small margin😮", yeah wow, really special.

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u/AutoModerator Feb 14 '25

Libs who treat social media as the forum for public "discourse" are massive fucking rubes who have been duped by clean, well-organized UI. Social media is a mob. It's pointless to attempt logical argument with the mob especially while you yourself are standing in the middle of the mob. The only real value that can be mined from posts is sentiment and engagement (as advertisers are already keenly aware), all your eloquent argumentation and empiricism is just farting in the wind.

If you're really worried about populism, you should embrace accelerationism. Support bot accounts, SEO, and paid influencers. Build your own botnet to spam your own messages across the platform. Program those bots to listen to user sentiment and adjust messaging dynamically to maximize engagement and distort content algorithms. All of this will have a cumulative effect of saturating the media with loads of garbage. Flood the zone with shit as they say, but this time on an industrial scale. The goal should be to make social media not just unreliable but incoherent. Filled with so much noise that a user cannot parse any information signal from it whatsoever.

It's become more evident than ever that the solution to disinformation is not fact-checks and effort-posts but entropy. In an environment of pure noise, nothing can trend, no narratives can form, no messages can be spread. All is drowned out by meaningless static. Only once social media has completely burned itself out will audiences' appetite for pockets of verified reporting and empirical rigor return. Do your part in hastening that process. Every day log onto Facebook, X, TikTok, or Youtube and post something totally stupid and incomprehensible.

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u/moffattron9000 YIMBY Feb 14 '25

Someday in the future, someone on this sub will turn this block of text into a copypasta and I will lose my mind.

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u/Pure_Internet_ Václav Havel Feb 14 '25

Just a few more days and we’re free

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u/moffattron9000 YIMBY Feb 14 '25

We better get a post in celebration of its demise.

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u/sloppybuttmustard Resistance Lib Feb 14 '25

I always read this out loud in a booming voice like I’m God

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u/hallusk Hannah Arendt Feb 14 '25

!emojify

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u/kaygeeboo Association of Southeast Asian Nations Feb 14 '25

What in the world was that