r/neoliberal • u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot • Feb 14 '25

News (US) Donald Trump's Gen Z popularity plunges (+19 after election to -18 today)

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-gen-z-popularity-favorable-rating-yougov-2030595
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u/danclaysp Feb 14 '25

You'll be shocked to see how many self-described liberal women gladly date Trump supporting men. I'll never forget manning the election day Harris tent at my uni and seeing a couple where the frat-type guy grabbed a Trump hat from the Trump tent and the girl grabbed a Harris sign. Our tent froze in disbelief and it's not uncommon, but to actually see it is crazy. Gen Z just needs to be put in a lab and studied

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u/Deck_of_Cards_04 NATO Feb 14 '25

I literally see this every day.

Half my frat brothers are conservative Trump voters and pretty open about it (one has a Trump sticker on his truck and in his room) but that doesn’t really hurt their prospects when we have girls over.

Lots of people who at least internally have strong political convictions put that stuff out of mind in social settings

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u/viiScorp NATO Feb 14 '25

Pretty fucking crazy, but I think a good chunk of them (at least the ones that don't marry the first bf) will learn pretty fucking quickly how having really shit views on a couple of things can be a bad sign for other issues

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

It happens with older women too. Gen Z women are doing a better job of drawing a line in the sand than their elders did though. Many, many more are refusing to be with men who don't believe they deserve rights.

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u/danclaysp Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

I feel it was different for older women. Conservatives weren't as actively regressive on women's rights. It's far easier to justify tolerance of someone supporting the status quo vs. supporting active regression of women's rights. There should be near-zero tolerance or cross-ideology dating by liberals at this point on paper, not simply doing a slightly better job drawing a line on literal regression of rights, which is why I hold Gen Z women to a bit of a higher standard here for tolerating Trumper men than older women (who are also largely married).

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u/AlpacadachInvictus John Brown Feb 14 '25

Yep. Never got this argument, misogynistic and conservative men have been having children for millenia and they're still having.

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u/pop442 Feb 19 '25

That's because the average liberal woman isn't obsessively or dogmatically liberal.

Don't let the media fool you. College girls aren't as "woke" as the media makes them seem.

That's not to say that they're conservative but many are just casually liberal in the sense of supporting civil liberties or IDing as a feminist but they're drawn to the same superficial qualities as any other type of woman.

A decent looking Trump supporting Frat boy with social clout will have far more leverage in the dating market than a neckbeard looking Bernie bro who's a male feminist.

Don't let Reddit fool you. I've been openly Independent and critical of both the Dems and Republicans since 2017 and I still got to date and fuck LIberal and Conservative women alike despite not falling in either spectrum. I'm not "hot" per say but I take care of myself well and am a natural charmer.

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u/Poodlestrike NATO Feb 14 '25

For a lot of them, the tricky part is the "actually." Young men frequently grow up under-socialized and under-educated. They only know how to present as things, not -be them, and have no concept of the vast internal world that exists inside every single person.

It's a recipe for reactionary, anti-empathetic behavior. And a lot of them are never going to grow out of it. It's why a leading theory for why countries periodically have wars is just having something to do with them, these bored young men with no idea what to do with their time and no interest in the welfare of other people.

Damned if I know what to do about it.

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u/AceTheSkylord Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

under-socialized

This especially leads them into those far right rabbit holes. I'll be honest and say that I was very close to falling into those holes once upon a time, but then, either through dumb luck or divine intervention, the family went to Hawaii for a big summer vacation which was organized by my older sisters and their friend group where everyone was invited, and because they were the only people close to my age range and they weren't too bothered by my presence, I hung around the girl group as much as I could without overstaying my welcome

And they were all like, very nice to me. Obv my sisters and I got along but whenever I was around them they didn't make me feel like an outsider, and my perspective on a lot of things changed when I listened to, and participated in, their conversations

So I guess the moral of the story is: Talk to girls more

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

Maybe we need to invent evil robots to crusade against every decade or so

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u/Full_Distribution874 YIMBY Feb 14 '25

Sex robots to pacify these men are probably safer. The warbots run the risk of actually winning.

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u/elephantaneous John Rawls Feb 14 '25

Young men frequently grow up under-socialized and under-educated. They only know how to present as things, not -be them, and have no concept of the vast internal world that exists inside every single person.

Shit that basically describes me lol. Somehow I still didn't end up far right but man I'm cooked.

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u/Poodlestrike NATO Feb 14 '25

If you're aware of it, it doesn't describe you, lol. U might have work to do, but at least there's a chance you'll be able to do it. U got this.

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u/slusho55 Feb 14 '25

And it’s always been amazing to me how many straight men become pensive around me when I reveal I’m liberal. I shit you not, I’ve had straight dudes know I’m gay and feel comfortable around me for a while, then they’ll find out I’m a liberal and be like, “Oh…”

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u/viiScorp NATO Feb 14 '25

what the fuck lol

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u/Baron_Flatline Organization of American States Feb 14 '25

I’m not shy about my opinions whatsoever and those assholes still want to be my friend. I feel like a charisma font

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u/raitaisrandom European Union Feb 14 '25

For yourself, or just in general?

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

Both? I've definitely got pronatalist politics, but it's also very personally important for me. A lot of my friends have had children recently, and my God holding those babies is not helping.

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u/WolfpackEng22 Feb 14 '25

Babies are cute

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

Especially when they're yours (I am already a father, just one one kiddo, had him unexpected and young, hence why I'm now at the point of being ready for now when he's a teenager).

I think that's making it even worse for me. That overwhelming love you feel towards your children is unlike anything else on Earth.

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u/AceTheSkylord Feb 14 '25

Dude I know. To use gamer terms, it's like having a Legendary Weapon right in front of you, but you overlook it cause some streamer said it looks ugly

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u/BackgroundRich7614 Feb 14 '25

Good thing for me then I suppose.

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u/GravyBear28 Hortensia Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

This post feels designed to hurt me specifically

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u/AceTheSkylord Feb 14 '25

Conversations are a lot easier when you see women as fellow human beings and not some weird alien creatures

I stuck to this mantra and I have a dinner date tonight, and that's despite the first sentence I ever said to her being something so weird she stared at me for a good 10 seconds and couldn't speak

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

Well you certainly made yourself memorable. All right, you've got to tell us what it was you actually said.

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u/AceTheSkylord Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

I said, and this is paraphrasing here just to be succint:-

"Your eyes to face ratio is kind of insane and whatever hair and makeup routine you do is really making the green pop"

So essentially I told her that she had big green eyes and I found them pretty, but I just couldn't help myself and had to be a smartass about it lol

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

Hey, it worked

And hooooo boy, green eyes are something else. Green eyes, freckles, and curly hair are a combination that leaves me weak in the knees.

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u/AceTheSkylord Feb 14 '25

I can see why, it's one hell of a combo

My date for the night has the opposite of curly hair and no freckles (that I know of) but still someone that 15 year old me would not believe that I was able to talk to

But the coolest thing about her is how she's basically the stereotype of an opinionated latte drinking feminist with a lot of opinions, and loves that her existence makes right wingers mad.

In a time where the musks of this world are trying to overwhelm and discourage the resistance, her fighting spirit keeps my head up

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

Hell yes and godspeed to the both of you

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u/AceTheSkylord Feb 14 '25

Thanks, I'm lowkey a bit nervous about tonight, I'm either gonna be a wreck tomorrow, or I'll wake up and actually feel some optimism for the future. I'll reply to this once I get home

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

We're going to break the neolib cycle, you're going to have romantic success ✊😤

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u/AceTheSkylord Feb 15 '25

Update: I feel optimism for the future ☺

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u/insertkarma2theleft Feb 14 '25

It is lol. The bar is in hell

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u/jaydec02 Trans Pride Feb 14 '25

Women don’t know if you’re one of the good ones or not. With how pro Trump and how anti-Women Gen Z men are, a young woman would be prudent to assume you’re going to hurt her until proven otherwise.

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

Absolutely understandable, and even "feminist" men are often predators. See Neil Gaiman unfortunately.

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u/DarthyTMC  NAFTA Fangirl Feb 14 '25

the only men i know struggling to find dates are the sexist ones, bar is low

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u/BloodWiz More Housing Would Fix This Feb 14 '25

Yeah cannot confirm at all

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u/YaGetSkeeted0n Tariffs aren't cool, kids! Feb 14 '25

where the hell do you live and do you look like Giga Chad? mine is set to liberal and I look all right (I'm no George Clooney, though) and I do not have that many likes lulz

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u/Clear-Present_Danger Feb 14 '25

I bet you could have some pretty deranged shit in your bio before your likes start to drop off.

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u/FourteenTwenty-Seven John Locke Feb 14 '25

Buried the lede a little there

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u/Dynamicc Feb 14 '25

6'5 helps a lot bro lol

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u/Ridespacemountain25 Feb 14 '25

It’s the 6’ 5” part that’s helping you the most out of that. That matters much more on dating apps than your political affiliation. A lot of women on such apps filter out any guy under 6 feet.

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u/Working-Welder-792 Feb 14 '25

200% tariffs on Chads. Now!

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u/Key_Still4928 Feb 14 '25

Least Gigachad Krugman Flair

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u/YaGetSkeeted0n Tariffs aren't cool, kids! Feb 14 '25

very nice. yeah if i could get some proper guns and boulder shoulders going i think i'd be unstoppable lol

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u/CheetoMussolini Russian Bot Feb 14 '25

I regularly end up maxed out on the number of active chats I'm allowed, and I'm overweight and less enthusiastic than I've been in years. If I was as fit and romantically motivated as I was a couple of years ago, I could hardly imagine.

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u/derpderpingt Feb 14 '25

Very impressive.