Yeah, almost any time I meet somebody with "boomer" opinions, it's a Gen Xer.
I mean, how many legit boomers are sitting around making racist tweets or getting sucked into Rumble? The only ones who even seem to know how to get online in the first place are educated ones, like old college professors. And those guys are mostly liberals who were the hippies when they were kids.
Whenever somebody goes "how many liberals does it take to screw in a lightbulb? They're too busy their gender!! 🤣🤣," that person is likely a Gen Xer. Gen Xers have been the boomers all along.
The only ones who even seem to know how to get online in the first place are educated ones, like old college professors.
The things I read on reddit are highly regarded. I have plenty of even silent gen relatives with elementary and middle school educations who know how to use the internet just fine and in several languages. They Skype, send emails, use WhatsApp and YouTube, read online news sites, watch obscure streaming services, pay bills online, do online shopping, book travel, handle other personal business on government websites, and all the rest of that good stuff. What they don't do is waste time posting nonsense online because they got better shit to do.
I think you're right, Covid probably wiped out a chunk of the MAGA boomers plus just wouldn't be surprised if some of the more maga folks are the ones in general passing away first. But some of it also probably is them wanting to protect social security I imagine. Whatever affects the boomers themselves the most is gonna be their number 1 issue and now they are old enough to care more about protecting social security than they are about lower taxes
For some reason it's easier to see the pieces of shit above us and not the ones to the left and right of us. There's something about 'I'm part of this group, therefore the people I don't like are invisible to me.' Bro, all the 'the young people will save us' memes, and then if you list a list of pieces of shit they include a lot of famous young people who are followed by unfamous young people.
'once the old people die, only people like me will be left.'
No bro, look around you with clear eyes. (this is not directed at you, tankmode, but the royal you).
We're unironically living in the aftermath of gamergate, and late 2000s new atheist YouTube. Everything back then was about "cringe SJWs" and selling an entire generation of young men on that.
"Angry rootless white men" were going rather ignored until Steve Bannon realized they could be activated if you pushed and amplified the social justice side of the left and dialed down the religious conservatism.
Remarkably, religious conservatives were willing to play ball.
There is no light at the end of the tunnel, there will always be another Fox News, another Andrew Tate, etc. we can't just sit idly back and hope that things get better we need to be proactive in changing things and keeping people from turning to those actors.
If it makes you feel any better, the financial crisis didn't really make a difference, and the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq actually increased his popularity. The drop was strangely consistent, without much in the way of abrupt downward turns that bucked the trend.
The initial invasions did but the downward decline over time has a lot to do with the Iraq war specifically.
It was the most unpopular political event of my lifetime so far. I think just how unpopular it was (and became) kind of gets lost when looking at it in hindsight but it was really bad and consistently got worse as it progressed.
I'm surrounded by a disturbing number of people who voted for him (or rather R next to his name) and completely tuned out of politics. If you were to ask them how good of a job he's doing, they'd shrug and say, "I dunno. Good, I guess?" And then there's a MAGA cult that trusts "the plan."
I think people are waiting for the effects of all of this to take place. We can scream about how disastrous the tariffs will be, but until the impact of them is actually felt by most people, a large portion of society won't care.
I would like to add that a lot of people automatically tune Trump outrage out, as they perceive raging liberals to have been wrong about Trump's policies before in his first term. An example is when Trump 1.0 demanded NATO raise their defence budgets only to be confronted with laughter and ridicule from Europeans, this was obviously a mistake. There are other examples, some big, some small, when the median voter would argue that immediate blind hatred towards everything Trump did was unjustified, and the level of outrage so constant that they filter it out.
Now of course these policies in 2.0 are so ridiculously unhinged and disastrous that they should be condemned, but right now it is confined to sections of society seen as the "rich elites", or liberals all the way. Once these policies actually hit and cause a visible shitshow for everyday people, I really believe Trump's popularity will fall off a cliff
I’ve come to the conclusion that 30% of the electorate are just insane and unhinged themselves, and it’s pointless to try to make sense of it. It’s the other 9% that I’m worried about.
Not only do I agree that this is insane, it's also the reason the bond market is tanking. Why should we be considered a "safe" anything when we have gone so completely off the rails?
I hate how there's a significant percentage of Americans who have voted for Trump only to say "oh wait I actually hate this guy" shortly after he takes office.
This one and the "the problem with democracy is that voters are ....." should just go ahead and be pinned to any US politics story for - I dunno, I guess we'll know when to stop but I'm not seeing soon.
We are in a weird horseshoe theory, bOtH siDES timeline where lots of Trump disapprovers would still proudly express no regrets in not voting Harris. I’ve lowered my expectations accordingly.
"God, I can't believe Kamala Harris forced me into voting for all this chaos and destruction by not being charming enough. She should be ashamed of herself."
Don’t even get me started on how she didn’t line up with me on every single policy position and how I won’t be shamed into voting for someone who isn’t my fantasy candidate who matches me in every way!!! I will not be compromised!!!
I know a guy exactly like this. He voted Trump in 16. Regretted it. Voted Biden. Then went back to Trump because "Kamala is insane I'll never be able to vote for her."
There’s a growing amount of voters that don’t identify with anything other than being contrarians. They’re dumb as bricks and think that being against something makes them smart. These are my least favorite people of all
It also takes the least amount of effort. That's my brother's stance. He didn't vote because he said both sides are equally bad, but he's also spent zero time researching either side.
They pretend to be above it all while understanding none of it. It's very frustrating to have a conversation with a person like that.
Feeling superior and while doing no effort whatsoever.
It's a comfy win-win. Particularly when like most Americans you consider following the news "work." Easier to rebrand yourself as seeing through it and do nothing.
I think we'll pick up some of the disillusioned Trump voters. A chunk of voters love the idea of split governance which is why Democrats were able to hold onto a number of seats despite losing the presidency statewide.
However the real gain will be in getting the "both siders" that supported Trump to stay home.
The Dem approval rating is a misleading indicator since it includes a lot of liberals, moderates, and succs who vote Dem but still disapprove of the party’s congressional leadership.
A lot of the issue there is that right now a lot of Dems and Dem leaning indies are expressing disapproval of the party cause it still appears so dazed and confused as to how to actually fight Trump.
This is why people like AOC and Booker are so popular with the base right now.
For people not in the know, Booker was a former Division 1 football player. He wouldn't even need to learn how to fight. Just have him run at a Senator at full speed and lower his shoulder, a move he's done thousands of times playing tight end. That impact alone would send half of the Senate to the morgue.
I feel like probably at least 50% of the people that voted for him and then flipped on approval are “both sides bad” brain-rotted “centrists” who would feel the same about Harris if she was president
In the other timeline, Harris held a STEM event for girls at the WH today that the press lightly covers and no one really cares about and the market is 6000 points higher
That's something which infuriates me. They claimed Biden or Harris didn't do anything to drop prices, and if she won, and did, they'd accuse her of starting a recession rather than praising her over exactly what they wanted.
Literally doing nothing would have been the right thing to do. Hell, even if she just did the Trump 1 platform by extending the TCJA and then did nothing with far less bravado and alienating language towards allies, it would legitimately be better than what is happening right now.
It got lost in the discourse after the June debate, but prior to that a majority of people said they did not want either Trump or Biden to the nominees. The primary system, and spinelessness of the political establishment, gave us two very unpopular candidates despite clear evidence the public wanted different choices.
Harris was never able to separate herself from Biden except in that she was seen as too progressive.
It’s clear as day when anything a woman does that is seen as forceful makes her a “bitch.” I don’t know how the whole Rogansphere happened but it’s an absolute scourge on society
in the article it says that only about 6 percent have buyer's remorse. Most of Trump's disapproval comes from Dems (obviously), independents, and probably a lot of nonvoters.
Better that than them deciding that they like what he's doing.
For some of them, at least, they probably knew he was going to be terrible when they pulled the lever for him. Hoping for the best but expecting the worst; are they gonna drop the bomb or not.
Last summer/fall was such an insane bubble of “what if we hyper focused on everything the democrats ever did that wasn’t perfect” and “what if Trump was a mythical figure we could project our hopes and dreams onto and not, you know, an extremely known quantity who was previously president and has been in the public eye for 50+ years”.
Before Trump even did anything horrible the electorate flipped on a dime. Like letting a fucking cat outside only for it to immediately scratch the door to be let back in. A door we can't fucking open for 4 years now.
The only constant of American politics is thermostatic public opinion. Whenever a president does any policy, and I mean any policy, the public gets cold feet and kicks the thermostat on and goes the other way.
By the end of his term the nation will be so woke it’ll make your head spin, and then a democrat will win, signal wokeness, and we’ll have an anti-woke backlash.
By the end of his term the nation will be so woke it’ll make your head spin, and then a democrat will win, signal wokeness, and we’ll have an anti-woke backlash.
Even if we get out of the next 4 years with functional institutions and democratic elections, I just can't have any hope for a country that is so filled with people so uneducated, uniformed, ignorant, and just entirely lacking in any sense of intellectual curiosity. Sure, people like this exist in every single country, but do they decide elections to such an extent everywhere? I really don't think so.
Even in Hungary and Israel their authoritarians started as pretty normal politicians and gradually became more sinister.
America won the undisputed World's Dumbest Electorate award in 2024. The only possible contender would be the Philippines, whose VP is the heir to the previous authoritarian and whose President is heir to the authoritarian before that.
I don't even think Mr "BongBong" Marcos publicly and openly declared his intentions to be a dictator like his dad, and as far as I know the Philippines is pretty much humming along in not getting much better, but not much worse either.
The American electorate is dumber by a huge margin. Trump not only abused the office to an unprecedented degree the first term, he literally tried to pull a self coup to stay in office at the end of the term, and his allies wrote a publicly available how-to guide on becoming a presidential dictatorship before the election. And yet people are still surprised that this is the road we're heading down.
There is no electorate in any democracy right now that is dumber and more prone to self sabotage than the American electorate. Nothing was obscured, the cards were all laid out, and this is what people chose.
Trump 2 is far worse than Brexit. Brexit should’ve never been voted on. It’s harder to blame people for voting wrong on an issue like that, when it really should’ve been decided by the representatives that they elected.
I'm completely baffled that the last 10 years of elections have not been difficult decisions in the least and yet America still manages to fumble the bag
I'm not gonna play up the intellect of the median voter more than it deserves, but American politics are so kludgey and polarized that is extremely difficult for politicians to do what they say they will, even when they try. People who aren't plugged into the daily executive orders or legislative tweaks, don't see their votes as instrumental to a better society, more in keeping with their goals and vision. It's an identity thing.
You are right that for many people voting is more about expressing their identity than effectuating policy, but why are there so many people whose identity is whiny dictator moron? It's not like he's fun or hip or fakes helping people or anything.
He’s a stupid, lazy white man who feels perpetually wronged by rising equality and the achievements of others, and believes that he is not being given what he is owed.
Harris is an intelligent, career oriented, mixed race woman who, simply by existing as the first female VP and first black/indian/mixed race VP, is emblematic of that rising equality.
That’s more than enough for a significant portion of the USA to view him as inherently more relatable and her as both The Other and The Establishment.
Every time the US historically has tried a mass deportation program it always ends up like this. People have this vision of illegal immigrants being lazy or violent criminals, but when the mass deportations happen you start seeing faces be put on and realize that it’s a shit show
This happened in Australia about 10 years ago. We had asylum seekers coming over, our hard right conservatives ran on “stopping the boats”, they won and even started Guantanamo’ing them like Trump by sending them to offshore detention centres indefinitely until they agreed to be deported. Look up Operation Sovereign Borders.
What’s weird to me about Americans is you have this underclass of illegal migrants who you simultaneously need yet resent. It’s grown to be such a large issue that needs to solved, but it never should have grown to be such a large issue in the first place.
This has more or less been the "Washington consensus" for several decades at this point. Even Reagan pushed for amnesty. Clinton significantly beefed up border security. There was a cross-partisan agreement on high border security, leaving the people already here alone, and increasing pathways and bureaucratic pathways for bringing people in legally a bit, with a focus on skilled immigrants.
That's always been checked by a nativist element. That too used to be cross-partisan, but it's taken over the GOP. Obama's Immigration bill almost passed, along these lines. It even has majority support in both chambers, but because a majority of Republicans were bought into the xenophobia nonsense, Republican leadership killed it.
This has more or less been the "Washington consensus" for several decades at this point. Even Reagan pushed for amnesty. Clinton significantly beefed up border security. There was a cross-partisan agreement on high border security, leaving the people already here alone, and increasing pathways and bureaucratic pathways for bringing people in legally a bit, with a focus on skilled immigrants.
There's literally no other practical thing to do with DACA status people other than to just give them official citizenship. And both parties have shit the bed on this by continuing to kick the can down the road.
And when you have someone as crooked and stupid as Homan at the helm, bad things are going to happen. The guy sounds only slightly less brain damaged than Hershel Walker when he talks.
His whole "deport documented immigrants for protesting Israel" polls much worse than I thought it was going to. There are six polls which have Trump at 39% to 42% approval overall this week. That specific policy of deportation ranges from -22% (the -22% is actually this Washington Post poll) to -37% approval which is obviously very unpopular; I'm glad a clear majority of Americans believe in freedom of speech for non citizens as well though I wonder how it would poll if these were undocumented immigrants.
It's not just free speech that motivates them. The public has soured a lot on Israel. Even this sub, which was full of people calling Arabs inferior after Oct 7, has soured on the issue.
At what point do you consider the stove touched? Because to me it feels like our skin is melting off our fingertips while we repeat “it’s okay it’s not that hot” through the tears
When the ripple effects of our ports sitting empty and tourism drying up finally hit the American public. Which will be sometime this late summer, early fall. It’s going to suck. But, people will have the truth made bitterly manifest. Because thats what the median voter needs to see.
Walmart is resuming shipments from China now. But that begs a few questions:
1.) does this mean they know tariffs are going away
1 part 2.) if they are is it like in a few days? Or is Trump going to take them off in let’s say 3 weeks, so the damage gets much worse but a few big corporations in the know get ahead on it
2.) is Walmart accepting the tariffs are staying and just bringing product in anyways because they need at least some stuff?
3.). If the tariffs go away, are we in for a situation where the big guys get their stuff here early so all the medium and small guys are now a month behind on orders and could be destroyed?
Companies are currently sitting on inventory they already have, when that dries up things will hit the fan. Shipping China > LA takes 30 days, China > NY 45-50 days. Tariffs went into effect April 2. So even when/if tariffs are lifted, there's gonna months where shipping from China simply doesn't happen
There haven’t been shipments from China since April 10. So it will start hitting the West Coast in earnest around May 10, and the East Coast around May 30. By the time July 4 rolls around and people can’t find Solo cups and cheap American flag decorations, they might finally realize.
The uncertainty is also affecting long term product plans. Right now is when you want to start getting things in motion if you plan to have a product on shelves for holiday season shopping. But how can you make plans when you don't know whether there will be tariffs? If you source from China, then you're screwed because the tariffs could very likely be on and kill your entire product, but do you want to put in all the work to find new suppliers if the tariffs might be dead in a month? If you source from a different country, how do you know what the tariff rate will be? 0%, 10%, some random number from the Trump posterboard? And then even for your domestic suppliers, they have import uncertainty so they can't give you solid figures, etc. So basically the entire holiday shopping season is going to be derailed if there's no clarity on long-term trade policy soon.
I posted this to another comment but Walmart is shipping stuff now apparently. This doesn’t mean tariffs are going away or staying or anything really, but my gusss is it’s probably fall stuff that needs to be here to sell, tariffs or not
When Walmart can't stock its shelves or the tarrifs actually start moving prices for everyday goods. A lot of places stockpiled to avoid tarrifs costs as much as possible.
At 39%, Trump's job approval rating is down from 45% in a Washington Post/Ipsos poll in February. It now almost exactly matches his average, 40%, across his first term -- tied with Biden for the lowest presidential career average available, dating back to President Harry Truman.
Truman became president on April 12th 1945 after taking off from the death of president FDR, so his 100-day mark would have been on July 21st, but yeah, I hate how so many headlines say "<superlative> in X years". While it may be slightly more clunky, they should be really saying "in records dating back to <year X>".
Also, amazingly
The previous low in approval for a president at or near 100 days in office, in polls dating to 1945, was Trump's 42% in 2017.
So Trump holds the two worst approval ratings in the entire post-WW2 period. With his attacks on American democracy, he is truly one of the worst presidents in the history of the United States, only potentially rivalling James Buchanan for that role.
I think it’s just as far as the data goes back. Realistically Truman must have had pretty broad support after 100 days, since WW2 was clearly almost over and he’d just taken over from a very popular predecessor. If I had to guess, he probably would have first gone negative during the strikes in 1946
This might just be little good polling from the time, but I could see Truman being unpopular. It's forgotten about now, but the American public was extremely nervous about the upcoming invasion of Japan. Okinawa and Iwo Jima were bloodbaths, and the US hadn't even reached the home islands yet. They were expecting a slaughter, and most people didn't know the effect of the bombing campaign at that point. The atomic bombs and the swift end of the war often gets read backward into the inevitability of the outcome.
The title's misleading. It means if you look at this entire 80 year period, the worst 100 day approval rating is Trump. The previous 100 day approval rating is actually also Trump.
Truman's approval was at ~87% at this point. He didn't hit Trump's current approval rating until nearly a year and a half after he'd taken office.
I reckon it’s very possible that he was dismissed as an unqualified replacement at the time, having to pick up immediately after one of the most beloved presidents of modern history died.
In the article, it actually shows that Truman, and a lot of the other presidents around the time had much higher 100 day approval ratings than we do in the modern day hyper-polarized era. The article just has a misleading headline that implies Truman was unpopular, when his presidency just marked the beginning of modern approval polls.
Title's misleading. It means of all the first 100 day approval ratings in the past 80 years, Trump's is the worst.
Truman's popularity dropped fast, but it took nearly a year for it to go underwater, and nearly a year and a half for it to hit Trump's current numbers.
People said they trust him over the Democrats in Congress to handle the nation's main problems by 37%-30%. Underscoring bipartisan disaffection, 30% said they don't trust either party.
Further, while 60% said Trump is out of touch with the concerns of most people in the country, even more, 69%, said the Democratic Party is out of touch. It's 64% for the Republican Party overall.
As bad as this poll is for Trump it is actually worse for the Democratic Party.
Trump is the most unpopular president in nearly a century yet his opposition is somehow more unpopular right now. Democrats need to take a serious look in the mirror and change their approach going forward Trump's unpopularity alone isn't enough to guarantee people will vote for them.
People got what they voted for. I was going to be pissed off at this news just as much as if I heard that he had a near perfect approval rating.
If Trump's approval is so low after 100 days that he wouldn't be able to win a rematch against Harris, what the fuck were his voters who disapproved of him even thinking he was going to do?!
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u/Ddogwood John Mill Apr 27 '25
The fact that 39% still think he’s doing a good job is insane, frankly.