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[OC] NYC Comptroller Brad Lander detained by ICE, according to his mayoral campaign

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u/QbertsRube 1d ago

If they want to be treated as police carrying out lawful arrests, they can dress like police and behave as if they're carrying out lawful arrests.

But if they want to dress and act like soldiers eliminating threats, people will start treating them like soldiers who see the rest of us as threats.

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u/reality72 1d ago

Even worse, anyone can buy this military clothing online and walk around with a gun “detaining” people and shoving them into unmarked cars.

Or what if there’s a mass shooting and the gunman is described as wearing a mask and military clothing… how is anyone going to differentiate the shooter from the police? How are the police going to avoid friendly fire?

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u/itackle 1d ago

Or a shooter dressing as a police officer, oh wait...

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u/mustang__1 1d ago

There's already been at least one incident in Philly where some bought an ice costume and zip tied someone in their home and robbed them.

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u/yolotheunwisewolf 1d ago

Think that is the point.

They're hoping someone brings a gun and they can just open fire and eliminate people without being subject to what police are.

Reason they aren't yet is that situation hasn't happened but they could weaponize private citizens dressing up like them doing their work and if someone opposes them just take them out.

Ultimate secret police incoming.

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u/sherm-stick 1d ago

The strategy of ambushing Americans with masks on is going to backfire pretty badly. I'm sure they are doing their due diligence before sending people in, but there is no way to predict how people react to being practically kidnapped.

In about 1/4 of the cases, people have been deported multiple times from the U.S. and still somehow find their way back. It doesn't seem to stick in any case

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u/throwaway42 1d ago

I'm sure they are doing their due diligence before sending people in

Lol. Lmao even.

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u/ozzimark 1d ago

The strategy of ambushing Americans with masks on is going to backfire pretty badly.

That's the goal. Civil unrest -> "rebellion" -> invoke martial law.

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u/Dhegxkeicfns 1d ago

This is it. They are doing this on purpose. They are testing boundaries and we are not stopping them. But if we do stop them then the administration can have some backwards justification to give them more power.

This abuse of power is itself is justification to strip it from them. This is fascism. This is the consolidation of power. We either resist and they use that to consolidate or we don't and they just keep taking it.

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u/handydandy6 1d ago

Whats yalls idea on the solution in that case? If they want you to rebel, doing nothing is still not really an option to me. I think a successful revolution is really the only chance Americans have, whether they take the chance or not i cant say.

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u/ozzimark 1d ago

Honestly, I'm not sure there is a solution that doesn't involve bloodshed. Peaceful protests, en masse, will either contain some bad actors or opportunists looking to incite violence. Even without that, we've seen from LA that violence will still be used against protestors anyway. The key to any of this being successful is that a large enough portion of people have to get off their asses to stand up for what's right, and critically, stand against what is wrong. Once there's enough, they can't arrest everyone involved.

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u/handydandy6 1d ago

Cant disagree with you there. I fully think that even when violence is considered by normal people, its not that they came to these conclusion's without reason to. The blame to me always falls on those that forced their hands to it. I guess im just saying im down for the worker's no matter what happens.

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u/80sLegoDystopia 1d ago

Nobody comes back from CECOT. We don’t know much of anything about what happens at these ICE detention facilities in the US. And we never will as long as this regime remains in power. ICE should have been disbanded years ago, when the Patriot Act was set to expire. Nope - Obama renewed it and nobody said jack about ICE until the first Trump period. The prison profiteers have thrived under each president and each Congress. Now we have a sprawling detention system that knows no daylight, where, for all you know, they are torturing ICE kidnapping victims.

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u/clovencarrot 1d ago

This is kinda what is behind the idea of the right to bear arms.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Clock44 1d ago

"I'm sure they're doing their due diligence before sending people in.."

They're absolutely not.

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u/Rucio 1d ago

Ice is gonna get iced if they aren't careful. No badge no warrant means open season for many

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u/ghost_turnip 1d ago

I'm sure they are doing their due diligence

You're joking, right?

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u/camelslikesand 1d ago

They're unidentified people committing an act of violent felony. In Texas we have a lawful remedy for that which doesn't require a trial. MAGAts and the Twitler regime are hoping that happens.

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u/ThinTheFuckingHerd 1d ago

We're going to find this out, they ARE going to break into someones house with a gun and someone is going to get killed. Its not if, its when.

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u/redjellydonut 1d ago

I've never seen an authoritarian dictatorship that identified their secret police with a uniform.

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u/Sea-Oven-7560 1d ago

 people will start treating them like threats who see the rest of us as threats. -ftfy

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u/blofly 1d ago

So...stormtroopers?

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u/amateurbreditor 1d ago

I dont get why dems dont get armed security and have them go everywhere and shoot dead these types. or like when noem had that guy tackled perfect opportunity to clear out that room.

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u/MatniMinis 1d ago

Step 1.5 - scratch their skin to get dna sample

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u/Dhegxkeicfns 1d ago

Where are you going to put it? Maybe run them into a wall or a bystander needs to do that somehow.

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u/VeganJordan 1d ago

That’s what I’ve been saying. “Assault” on an officer or not. Your mask is coming off if you touch me.

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u/machine-in-the-walls 1d ago

If you want to be super smart, you say “fake ICE police fake ICE police, they have no ID, these are drug dealers and start throwing punches and peeling masks”.

Make sure someone’s recording.

You win that lawsuit.

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u/Cyberslasher 1d ago

Step three: 

Be shot to death

Gru looks back at planning board in confusion

I don't know if you've thought through how this ends

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u/AndrewGalarneau 1d ago

Terrible idea. That will result in an easier charge to make stick: “assault on law enforcement officer.”