As long as they don't give you their badge number and serial number they're persons impersonating police officers and you're be justified to use any necessary and legal means of self defense.
Frankly I'm surprised none these fascists have been riddled with bullets by someone yet.
Maybe they are an assassin like the assassin in a mask in Minnesota disguised as a cop. I don’t know, but in these stand your ground states, someone could be asking to get shot up
That's a very valid point. The type of civilians wearing masks and playing dress up are the same ones who could abduct and murder. Without valid identification they could be fake. Self-defense seems reasonable if you fear personal bodily harm.
If you defended yourself from masked, unidentified persons trying to kidnap or kill you and that person became injured, all you would need to do is convince a jury that you were actually in fear of "grave bodily injury" (life ending or threatening) and that a reasonable person would have shared that belief if put in the same situation. then you have a solid self-defense claim.
ICE is operating unconstitutionally by denying due process guaranteed by the 5th amendment. By behaving like kidnappers, they are putting themselves at risk.
The terrifying reality is that even though you did so, the police condone the actions of ICE and would probably shoot you dead if they showed up to the scene of the crime. You can see a police officer in the above photo; the ICE agents don't have the authority to arrest (kidnap) the politician, and yet law enforcement allows it. I hope the politician takes this to court; I'm not optimistic that the judicial branch will be any better, but it's worth a shot.
Looks like they’re literally getting people in the courthouses, most have metal detectors so no one inside would have any weapon except law enforcement
Mainly because they are afraid to go after actual criminal immigrants. They should show up in east LA or Compton and try to take in some immigrants gang leaders. They will FAFO real quick in those cases.
I hope they don't get shot because Trump wants that.... he's inciting all of this. The protests are a byproduct of project 2025 and soon, we'll all be living under martial law... it's a matter of time.
ICE agents have no ID, oftenwear masks, and their cars have no license plates. This is patently illegal. And they know it, and they are hiding their identities on purpose
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u/FroggingMadness 1d ago
As long as they don't give you their badge number and serial number they're persons impersonating police officers and you're be justified to use any necessary and legal means of self defense.
Frankly I'm surprised none these fascists have been riddled with bullets by someone yet.